Research Week #3: Rotom Formes!

TrollFreak · Jun 5th, 2012, 1:10:20 AM

Research Week - Week 3
June 5th - June 15th
Hosted by TrollFreak, SkullCandy, and Makaveli

Research Week's premise is simple. It serves as a place to discuss Pokemon that, although somewhat unorthodox, have the potential to be interesting choices in the OU metagame. Be it through; stats, movepool, ability or support capabilities, these Pokemon all have the chance to shine through this thread. Throughout the week, anyone who acheives a high enough ranking on the ladder using one or more of the featured Pokemon gets a mention, depending on their ladder ranking.

Feel free to post which sets have served you well and especially why! Theorymoning is fine (try to use them though), but when the end of the week nears I would rather have people posting which sets they actually used and how good/bad they were.

Rules:

Be open-minded. Don't deride a Pokemon just because you think it's bad. Test it (and the others) out and at least see what it has to offer.
Don't just use the standard sets posted on the analysis pages (if the Pokemon has an analysis page, that is). Feel free to explore any other options it has available.
Don't suggest Pokemon in this thread, PM, VM, or find me or the other hosts on irc maybe we'll include it in the next one!
Don't get too off topic with your posts. It's fine to make one post explaining why X Pokemon is outclassed by Y Pokemon but don't keep reiterating your point!

To make this thread a bit more competitive I'm going to change the awards up a bit. Just to make this a bit more of a competition than Dark Horse I am only going to give awards to the top three users (for each Pokemon). At the end of the week, the users with the highest amout of ladder points for each Pokemon will get a Gold award, the second highest gets a Silver award, and the third receives a Bronze. Also, you can only be considered for an award if you get a ranking of over 1300. As the week develops more and more people will be chasing that No1 spot so, if whoever claims it first wants to keep their top spot, remember that you're going to have to keep laddering lest someone overtake you!

On to the Pokemon! This Research Week's title is...

Electric Appliances
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Rotom, Rotom-H, and Rotom-C. Back in DPP OU, these Pokemon all had one typing, Electric / Ghost. Now in BW, they each have unique typings and roles on a team. Below is just a short intro into each forme.

Rotom (Courtesy of Makaveli)

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Rotom-H (Courtesy of TrollFreak)

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Rotom-C (Courtesy of SkullCandy)

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Anyway that's enough from me, go out and...research!

What effect do these Pokemon have on the metagame? What sets can they run effectively? Which Pokemon counters them/is countered by them? That's for you to discover!

Go ahead and post the teams you used for your endeavors as well as your PO alts and battle logs! (These must be new and not a previously used alt). And don't forget to post screenshots of your ladder climbing acheivements to prove your greatness!

And finally, to quote Tobes:

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Just going to mention that intelligent contribution to threads like these could lead to rewards in the long-run, so don't lose motivation!

Rotom alts and award holders

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Rotom-H alts and award holders

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Rotom-C alts and award holders

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Barbeller · Jun 5th, 2012, 1:42:12 AM

I'm using Rotom-H and I'm laddering under the alt of Bloegg.

ThePillsburyDoughBoy · Jun 5th, 2012, 1:52:52 AM

I would take stab at Rotom-C being the best Rotom form next to Rotom-W in OU. Like Rotom-W, Rotom-C can still beat the omnipresent Sand teams with Leaf Storm, something the other Rotom's will defitnitely have trouble with. Rotom-C is also more potent against rain teams since they can not reliably switch to Gastrodo to stop the Volt-Switch. I think what really holds Rotom-C back isn't the teams it is up against, but that HP Fire and HP Ice are so popular right now. Just some random Poke could have it and take a big chunk of your health.

Personally I see Choice Specs Rotom-C as the best one. Given the pump up of power of Leaf Storm compared to Hydro Pump, it can be deadly. Plus getting locked into a stat lowering move like Leaf Storm sucks as a Scarfer.

Alt: Cut yo lawn

TrollFreak · Jun 5th, 2012, 2:00:50 AM

Added both you guys to the OP, thanks so much for participating!

Meru · Jun 5th, 2012, 2:51:41 AM

Although Rotom-H sits in UU and Rotom-C sits in RU, I'm inclined to agree that Rotom-C functions better in the OU environment. Sandstorm is way too unkind to Rotom-H, while Rotom-C has a serious niche as a rain killer. Curious to see which one holds more omnipresent.

Anybody who can make normal Rotom work in OU... kudos because I'm just not envisioning any strong sets coming from him

Lork · Jun 5th, 2012, 4:33:14 AM

yeah, normal rotom is a bit pointless isnt it? surely better off testing fridge rotom or fan rotom maybe?

SkullCandy · Jun 5th, 2012, 4:46:54 AM

Normal Rotom actually has a lot of potential. It destroys Scizor with Will-O-Wisp and a resistance to all of its moves apart from Pursuit (all it has to do is not switch out), and is faster than all the Rotom formes. It can also run a decent SubCharge set that walks all over Blissey/Chansey as it is immune to Seismic Toss and takes nothing from hazards basically.

Anyway, I'm testing Rotom-C on a quick stall rain team. I use Tentacruel and Ferrothorn for hazards, spinning, and paralysis. Next is Magnezone to take out Ferrothorn (who hard counters Rotom-C). Politoed sets up rain and takes out last Pokemon set up with Perish Song. It also helps for stalling things like Starmie out with Toxic and Protect. Next is Latias. I use a defensive mono-attacking set of Calm Mind, Recover, Roar, Dragon Pulse. Although it is walled by Tyranitar and Ferrothorn, they aren't too much of a problem thanks to hazards and my own Ferrothorn or Mag. So far Specs Rotom-C has worked the best, but I'm currently trying out SubCharge.

Alt: SkullCandi

TrollFreak · Jun 5th, 2012, 5:07:45 AM

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yeah, normal rotom is a bit pointless isnt it?

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Anybody who can make normal Rotom work in OU... kudos because I'm just not envisioning any strong sets coming from him

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Originally Posted by Fat OP

Be open-minded. Don't deride a Pokemon just because you think it's bad. Test it (and the others) out and at least see what it has to offer.

If you didn't even test the Pokemon, how do you know its bad? One must use it first before one derides a Pokemon. IIRC, Rampardos used to be OU back in the early DPP OU days, but when people started to test it, they realized it was bad. Same thing with Rotom. Test it and see what happens. Just use some if SkullCandy's suggestions, he brought up some points. Also, remember Rotom can be used as a spin blocker, so something else to keep in mind!

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surely better off testing fridge rotom or fan rotom maybe?

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Originally Posted by Fat More from the OP

Don't suggest Pokemon in this thread

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Anyways, while I won't be participating in this challenge atm, mostly because I used Rotom and Rotom-H and I HATE Rotom-C from RU, I'll just post a set that I quoted in the intro to Rotom-H, and it has worked alot for me.

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@ Flame Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Overheat
- Trick
- Pain Split / Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass

This set is used to bait and cripple Tyranitar, Dragonite, Haxorus, or any other Pokemon that try to come in on Rotom-H. This plays like the TrickOrb Reiunclus on site, except unlike the blob, it bluffs the Orb perfectly. Due to its Fire-typing, its won't get burned, and as such, you can play this set like a Choice set. While you think it may be slow without its Choice Scarf, it still outpaces Choice Banded Haxorus, Mamoswine and Gliscor, so you still have enough Speed to bluff a Choice set. And then, when that Tyranitar comes in trying to cripple you, go for the Trick. Not only do you cripple the T-Tar, but you can also get its leftys or a Choice Item to trick on to another Pokemon. Walls also find this set annoying since they lose their recovery from Leftovers and get a Status that hurts them instead.

Volt Switch and Overheat are my only attacking moves because Rotom doesn't need more to bluff a Scarf or Specs since even with a Choice set you will be using Volt Turn and Overheat 99% of the time and with Pain Split Rotom can survive a little longer causing more damage by Switching several items from my opponent's pokes. I slashed in Hidden Power Ice and Grass since it has viability in hitting Dragonite, Salamence or Gastrodon and Quagsire, but I like Pain Split better imo.

Well, thats enough from me, I can't wait to see what you guys come up with!

SkullCandy · Jun 5th, 2012, 5:31:12 AM

Here are some logs of my recent battles with Rotom-C, take a look, you'll be surprised:

sand team

edit: format messed up

Deaga · Jun 5th, 2012, 6:26:26 AM

Why not just use Will-O-Wisp on Rotom-H?

B-Lulz · Jun 5th, 2012, 6:54:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Meru

Although Rotom-H sits in UU and Rotom-C sits in RU, I'm inclined to agree that Rotom-C functions better in the OU environment. Sandstorm is way too unkind to Rotom-H, while Rotom-C has a serious niche as a rain killer. Curious to see which one holds more omnipresent.

Anybody who can make normal Rotom work in OU... kudos because I'm just not envisioning any strong sets coming from him

You would be surprised actually, I tried a normal Rotom set not long ago as a Volturn blocker and a spinblocker and it wasn't too bad at all, I think better than Rotom-F would be and maybe better than Rotom-S, i'll try it again later on a different team but it has a lot of uses to beat offensive teams, given its Ghost typing and Levitate.

EDIT: I'll research original Rotom under Heliotrope I guess.

The Truth · Jun 5th, 2012, 1:45:11 PM

I made ~1450 with a rotom-C team a month or two ago, so i guess ill try him out again.

Alt: ugh ill find one thats not in use and post it when im at a PO computer

Dracule Mihawk · Jun 5th, 2012, 6:33:08 PM

The original Rotom sets I have been using to great success is the scarf set, Or the dual screen sets which can be useful in HO. I will show any logs here that I deem worthy and show off Rotom's usefulness. It's been a long time since I used it so I will ladder with it soon. I will also explore the bulky set, which I haven't tried at all yet. (The sets I used before are shown before). I emphasise the role of Rotom as a spinblocker, as it can be a very useful in this role in teams while still keeping momentum.

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Twins · Jun 5th, 2012, 7:11:26 PM

Needs moar Rotom-S and Rotom-F

But yeah, Rotom-C and Rotom-H are sorely lacking in usage. They both do very well in OU, with Rotom-C arguably taking the cake against the all too common Rain and Sand teams nowadays. I'd venture to say Rotom-C is a decent check to Volt-Turn, despite being weak to U-Turn. It can't really come in and stop the chain, but if you manage get it in, the opponent will be hard pressed to continue it.

TrollFreak · Jun 7th, 2012, 6:00:07 AM

Well, with the thread being as dead as it is, I'm assuming that people are having fun testing these Pokemon!

Anywho, I'm going to test both the orginal and heat Rotom formes myself, under the alts

ToasterTom and TV-Rotom

Woodchuck · Jun 7th, 2012, 8:51:08 PM

Using Rotom-C under the alt thunder spear.

Yonko7 · Jun 7th, 2012, 11:13:41 PM

These guys are definitely in the dark. I'll go with Rotom-C under the Alt Yonko3

Juice! · Jun 9th, 2012, 1:59:31 AM

I hope it's not too late to join this party!

I'm gonna test Rotom-H under the alt kizz.

SkullCandy · Jun 9th, 2012, 6:04:24 AM

As the Smogon server hasn't been great lately I've been laddering on PO instead. Finally broke the 1300 mark with my Rotom-C team.

~~I'm still laddering with it, so I don't want to reveal the team just yet, but as soon as I start to tilt I'll upload.~~

Yeah well that tilt started...already. I'm on about 1260 now. Anyway here's the team. It started off as a quick stall team with the standard defensive rain core of Ferrothorn/Politoed/Tentacruel, with Specs Rotom-C firing off Thunders left and right and SubCharge Magnezone, who pretty much got two kills everytime I saw a team with Ferrothorn on it. My final team member varied from Specs Sniper Kingdra (lol at all the people quitting because they thought I broke Swift Swim clause), to LO Latios, to LO Starmie, but eventually I settled on a much less offensive, but just as deadly Pokemon in...Max Speed Jolly SubProtect Gliscor! Lol all you want but if you are slower than Gliscor and get hit by Toxic on the way in you are dead. There's literally no other way to put it. Also, the amount of Terrakion who run Adamant and are like WTF when I outspeed and OHKO with Earthquake. Anyway, Mag wasn't working anymore and I was ridiculously weak to Tornadus so I went for the standard SpD Jirachi with Protect. So in the end it's more of a full rain stall team, which is pretty great because I usually play balanced or offense, and I'm glad I got so high with a playstyle that's usually foreign to me! Anyway, here's the exportable of the team:

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CottonPuff · Jun 19th, 2012, 11:50:37 AM

Give me Rotom. I'll be laddering under the alt Sunscreen.

Jun 5th, 2012, 1:42:12 AM	#2
Barbeller Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 32	I'm using Rotom-H and I'm laddering under the alt of Bloegg. Last edited by Barbeller; Jun 5th, 2012 at 2:04:14 AM.

Jun 5th, 2012, 2:00:50 AM	#4
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,247 New York born, New York proud	Added both you guys to the OP, thanks so much for participating! __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~

Jun 5th, 2012, 2:51:41 AM	#5
Meru Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 600	Although Rotom-H sits in UU and Rotom-C sits in RU, I'm inclined to agree that Rotom-C functions better in the OU environment. Sandstorm is way too unkind to Rotom-H, while Rotom-C has a serious niche as a rain killer. Curious to see which one holds more omnipresent. Anybody who can make normal Rotom work in OU... kudos because I'm just not envisioning any strong sets coming from him __________________ In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one and only truth.

Jun 5th, 2012, 4:46:54 AM	#7
SkullCandy She Bangs The Drums Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	Normal Rotom actually has a lot of potential. It destroys Scizor with Will-O-Wisp and a resistance to all of its moves apart from Pursuit (all it has to do is not switch out), and is faster than all the Rotom formes. It can also run a decent SubCharge set that walks all over Blissey/Chansey as it is immune to Seismic Toss and takes nothing from hazards basically. Anyway, I'm testing Rotom-C on a quick stall rain team. I use Tentacruel and Ferrothorn for hazards, spinning, and paralysis. Next is Magnezone to take out Ferrothorn (who hard counters Rotom-C). Politoed sets up rain and takes out last Pokemon set up with Perish Song. It also helps for stalling things like Starmie out with Toxic and Protect. Next is Latias. I use a defensive mono-attacking set of Calm Mind, Recover, Roar, Dragon Pulse. Although it is walled by Tyranitar and Ferrothorn, they aren't too much of a problem thanks to hazards and my own Ferrothorn or Mag. So far Specs Rotom-C has worked the best, but I'm currently trying out SubCharge. Alt: SkullCandi __________________ C&C The Smog I <3 the Stone Roses

Jun 5th, 2012, 5:31:12 AM	#9
SkullCandy She Bangs The Drums Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	Here are some logs of my recent battles with Rotom-C, take a look, you'll be surprised: sand team Battle between SkullCandi and Hex. started! Tier: Standard OU Mode: Singles Variation: +34, -56 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Your team: Rotom-C / Politoed / Magnezone / Latias / Tentacruel / Ferrothorn Opponent's team: Hippowdon / Landorus / Volcarona / Ferrothorn / Terrakion / Starmie SkullCandi sent out Rotom-C! Hex. sent out BigBlaknigga! (Hippowdon) Hex.'s BigBlaknigga's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! Start of turn 1 Hex. called BigBlaknigga back! Hex. sent out Volcano! (Volcarona) Rotom-C used Volt Switch! Hex.'s Volcano lost 59% of its health! SkullCandi called Rotom-C back! SkullCandi sent out Politoed! Politoed's Drizzle made it rain! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 2 Hex. called Volcano back! Hex. sent out AwesomeGreen! (Ferrothorn) Politoed used Scald! It's not very effective... A critical hit! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen lost 31% of its health! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen was burned! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 3 Hex. called AwesomeGreen back! Hex. sent out WhirldStar! (Starmie) Politoed used Scald! It's not very effective... Hex.'s WhirldStar lost 27% of its health! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 Hex.'s WhirldStar used Hydro Pump! It's not very effective... Politoed lost 127 HP! (33% of its health) Politoed used Toxic! Hex.'s WhirldStar was badly poisoned! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Politoed restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s WhirldStar is hurt by poison! Start of turn 5 Politoed used Protect! Politoed protected itself! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Thunderbolt! Politoed protected itself! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Politoed restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s WhirldStar is hurt by poison! Start of turn 6 SkullCandi called Politoed back! SkullCandi sent out Ferrothorn! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Thunderbolt! It's not very effective... Ferrothorn lost 38 HP! (10% of its health) Ferrothorn is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s WhirldStar is hurt by poison! Start of turn 7 Hex. called WhirldStar back! Hex. sent out Volcano! (Volcarona) Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Hex.'s team! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 8 SkullCandi called Ferrothorn back! SkullCandi sent out Tentacruel! Hex.'s Volcano used Quiver Dance! Hex.'s Volcano's Sp. Att. rose! Hex.'s Volcano's Sp. Def. rose! Hex.'s Volcano's Speed rose! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 9 Hex.'s Volcano used Bug Buzz! It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 132 HP! (36% of its health) Hex.'s Volcano is hurt by its Life Orb! Tentacruel used Scald! It's super effective! Hex.'s Volcano lost 30% of its health! Hex.'s Volcano fainted! Rain continues to fall! Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it! Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge! Hex. sent out WhirldStar! (Starmie) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s WhirldStar! Start of turn 10 Tentacruel used Protect! Tentacruel protected itself! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Recover! Hex.'s WhirldStar regained health! Rain continues to fall! Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge! Start of turn 11 SkullCandi called Tentacruel back! SkullCandi sent out Magnezone! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Thunderbolt! It's not very effective... Magnezone lost 40 HP! (11% of its health) Magnezone is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 12 Hex.'s WhirldStar used Hydro Pump! Magnezone lost 228 HP! (66% of its health) Magnezone used Light Screen! Light Screen raised SkullCandi's team special defense! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 13 SkullCandi called Magnezone back! SkullCandi sent out Rotom-C! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Hydro Pump! It's not very effective... Rotom-C lost 69 HP! (28% of its health) Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 14 Hex. called WhirldStar back! Hex. sent out AwesomeGreen! (Ferrothorn) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s AwesomeGreen! Rotom-C used Leaf Storm! It's not very effective... Hex.'s AwesomeGreen lost 19% of its health! Rotom-C's Sp. Att. sharply fell! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 15 SkullCandi called Rotom-C back! SkullCandi sent out Ferrothorn! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of SkullCandi's team! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 16 Hex.'s AwesomeGreen used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of SkullCandi's team! Ferrothorn used Power Whip! It's not very effective... Hex.'s AwesomeGreen lost 5% of its health! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen's Iron Barbs hurts Ferrothorn Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 17 Hex.'s AwesomeGreen used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of SkullCandi's team! Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock! But if failed! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen is hurt by its burn! Start of turn 18 Hex. called AwesomeGreen back! Hex. sent out BigBlaknigga! (Hippowdon) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s BigBlaknigga! Hex.'s BigBlaknigga's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! Ferrothorn used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Hex.'s team! The sandstorm rages! Hex.'s BigBlaknigga restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 19 Hex. called BigBlaknigga back! Hex. sent out AwesomeGreen! (Ferrothorn) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s AwesomeGreen! Hex.'s AwesomeGreen fainted! Ferrothorn used Power Whip! But there was no target... The sandstorm rages! SkullCandi's light screen wore off! Hex. sent out Terracotta! (Terrakion) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s Terracotta! Hex.'s Terracotta is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 20 SkullCandi called Ferrothorn back! SkullCandi sent out Magnezone! Magnezone is hurt by spikes! Magnezone fainted! Hex.'s Terracotta used Close Combat! But there was no target... The sandstorm rages! SkullCandi sent out Latias! Start of turn 21 Latias used Calm Mind! Latias's Sp. Att. rose! Latias's Sp. Def. rose! Hex.'s Terracotta used Close Combat! It's not very effective... Latias lost 181 HP! (49% of its health) Hex.'s Terracotta's Defense fell! Hex.'s Terracotta's Sp. Def. fell! The sandstorm rages! Latias is buffeted by the sandstorm! Latias restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 22 Latias used Dragon Pulse! Hex.'s Terracotta lost 56% of its health! Hex.'s Terracotta used Close Combat! It's not very effective... Latias lost 177 HP! (48% of its health) Hex.'s Terracotta's Defense fell! Hex.'s Terracotta's Sp. Def. fell! The sandstorm rages! Latias is buffeted by the sandstorm! Latias fainted! SkullCandi sent out Tentacruel! Tentacruel is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 23 Hex.'s Terracotta used Close Combat! It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 177 HP! (48% of its health) Hex.'s Terracotta's Defense fell! Hex.'s Terracotta's Sp. Def. fell! Tentacruel used Scald! It's super effective! Hex.'s Terracotta lost 25% of its health! Hex.'s Terracotta fainted! The sandstorm rages! Tentacruel is buffeted by the sandstorm! Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge! Hex. sent out WhirldStar! (Starmie) Pointed stones dug into Hex.'s WhirldStar! Hex.'s WhirldStar is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 24 SkullCandi called Tentacruel back! SkullCandi sent out Politoed! Politoed is hurt by spikes! Politoed's Drizzle made it rain! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Rapid Spin! Politoed lost 12 HP! (3% of its health) Hex.'s WhirldStar blew away Spikes! Hex.'s WhirldStar blew away Stealth Rock! Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Politoed restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 25 SkullCandi called Politoed back! SkullCandi sent out Ferrothorn! Ferrothorn is hurt by spikes! Hex.'s WhirldStar used Thunderbolt! It's not very effective... Ferrothorn lost 43 HP! (12% of its health) Rain continues to fall! Hex.'s WhirldStar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 26 Hex. called WhirldStar back! Hex. sent out Aboundance! (Landorus) Ferrothorn used Power Whip! Hex.'s Aboundance lost 45% of its health! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 27 SkullCandi called Ferrothorn back! SkullCandi sent out Rotom-C! Hex.'s Aboundance used Earthquake! It had no effect! Rain continues to fall! Start of turn 28 Hex.'s Aboundance used Earthquake! It had no effect! Rotom-C used Leaf Storm! Hex.'s Aboundance lost 54% of its health! Hex.'s Aboundance fainted! Rotom-C's Sp. Att. sharply fell! Rain continues to fall! Hex. sent out BigBlaknigga! (Hippowdon) Hex.'s BigBlaknigga's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! Start of turn 29 Rotom-C used Leaf Storm! It's super effective! Hex.'s BigBlaknigga lost 100% of its health! Hex.'s BigBlaknigga fainted! Rotom-C's Sp. Att. sharply fell! The sandstorm rages! Rotom-C is buffeted by the sandstorm! Hex. sent out WhirldStar! (Starmie) Start of turn 30 Hex.'s WhirldStar used Hydro Pump! It's not very effective... Rotom-C lost 79 HP! (32% of its health) Rotom-C used Leaf Storm! It's super effective! Hex.'s WhirldStar lost 87% of its health! Hex.'s WhirldStar fainted! Rotom-C's Sp. Att. sharply fell! SkullCandi won the battle! Hex.: fucking shit The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window. edit: format messed up __________________ C&C The Smog I <3 the Stone Roses

Jun 5th, 2012, 1:52:52 AM	#3
ThePillsburyDoughBoy Ttar by Doughboy Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 953 Mentor	I would take stab at Rotom-C being the best Rotom form next to Rotom-W in OU. Like Rotom-W, Rotom-C can still beat the omnipresent Sand teams with Leaf Storm, something the other Rotom's will defitnitely have trouble with. Rotom-C is also more potent against rain teams since they can not reliably switch to Gastrodo to stop the Volt-Switch. I think what really holds Rotom-C back isn't the teams it is up against, but that HP Fire and HP Ice are so popular right now. Just some random Poke could have it and take a big chunk of your health. Personally I see Choice Specs Rotom-C as the best one. Given the pump up of power of Leaf Storm compared to Hydro Pump, it can be deadly. Plus getting locked into a stat lowering move like Leaf Storm sucks as a Scarfer. Alt: Cut yo lawn __________________ Check Out the 1 vs 1 Metagame: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3483807

Jun 5th, 2012, 4:33:14 AM	#6
Lork Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 231	yeah, normal rotom is a bit pointless isnt it? surely better off testing fridge rotom or fan rotom maybe?

Jun 5th, 2012, 6:26:26 AM	#10
Deaga Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 375	Why not just use Will-O-Wisp on Rotom-H? __________________ Diamond FC: Does anyone even play this shit anymore?

Jun 5th, 2012, 1:45:11 PM	#12
The Truth Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 113 Stranger than Fiction	I made ~1450 with a rotom-C team a month or two ago, so i guess ill try him out again. Alt: ugh ill find one thats not in use and post it when im at a PO computer __________________ lol signatures

Jun 5th, 2012, 7:11:26 PM	#14
Twins Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 104 Igloo land drinking maple syrup	Needs moar Rotom-S and Rotom-F But yeah, Rotom-C and Rotom-H are sorely lacking in usage. They both do very well in OU, with Rotom-C arguably taking the cake against the all too common Rain and Sand teams nowadays. I'd venture to say Rotom-C is a decent check to Volt-Turn, despite being weak to U-Turn. It can't really come in and stop the chain, but if you manage get it in, the opponent will be hard pressed to continue it.

Jun 7th, 2012, 6:00:07 AM	#15
TrollFreak (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,247 New York born, New York proud	Well, with the thread being as dead as it is, I'm assuming that people are having fun testing these Pokemon! Anywho, I'm going to test both the orginal and heat Rotom formes myself, under the alts ToasterTom and TV-Rotom __________________ Work Ever wanted to contribute to Smogon? Visit the Contributions and Corrections forum! ~SNOVERS~

Jun 7th, 2012, 8:51:08 PM	#16
Woodchuck <Feranfell> punbot irl aka virginity protector Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,649 us best	Using Rotom-C under the alt thunder spear. __________________

Jun 7th, 2012, 11:13:41 PM	#17
Yonko7 You don’t have to forgive me. No matter what you decide from now on, I will love you forever. Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 578 Mentor	These guys are definitely in the dark. I'll go with Rotom-C under the Alt Yonko3

Jun 9th, 2012, 1:59:31 AM	#18
Juice! Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 238 Central HQ	I hope it's not too late to join this party! I'm gonna test Rotom-H under the alt kizz. __________________ I'VE GOT A POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE. A Day at the Beach (My UU Warstory) *The Juice!* is loose!**

Jun 9th, 2012, 6:04:24 AM	#19
SkullCandy She Bangs The Drums Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	As the Smogon server hasn't been great lately I've been laddering on PO instead. Finally broke the 1300 mark with my Rotom-C team. ~~I'm still laddering with it, so I don't want to reveal the team just yet, but as soon as I start to tilt I'll upload.~~ Yeah well that tilt started...already. I'm on about 1260 now. Anyway here's the team. It started off as a quick stall team with the standard defensive rain core of Ferrothorn/Politoed/Tentacruel, with Specs Rotom-C firing off Thunders left and right and SubCharge Magnezone, who pretty much got two kills everytime I saw a team with Ferrothorn on it. My final team member varied from Specs Sniper Kingdra (lol at all the people quitting because they thought I broke Swift Swim clause), to LO Latios, to LO Starmie, but eventually I settled on a much less offensive, but just as deadly Pokemon in...Max Speed Jolly SubProtect Gliscor! Lol all you want but if you are slower than Gliscor and get hit by Toxic on the way in you are dead. There's literally no other way to put it. Also, the amount of Terrakion who run Adamant and are like WTF when I outspeed and OHKO with Earthquake. Anyway, Mag wasn't working anymore and I was ridiculously weak to Tornadus so I went for the standard SpD Jirachi with Protect. So in the end it's more of a full rain stall team, which is pretty great because I usually play balanced or offense, and I'm glad I got so high with a playstyle that's usually foreign to me! Anyway, here's the exportable of the team: exportable Rotom-C @ Choice Specs Levitate 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Modest -Leaf Storm -Volt Switch -Thunder -Trick Politoed @ Leftovers Drizzle 248 HP / 220 Def / 40 Spe Bold -Scald -Toxic -Protect -Perish Song Jirachi @ Leftovers Serene Grace 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe Careful -Iron Head -Body Slam -Wish -Protect Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Poison Heal 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe Jolly -Substitute -Protect -Earthquake -Toxic Tentacruel @ Black Sludge Rain Dish 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD Bold -Scald -Toxic Spikes -Protect -Rapid Spin Ferrothorn @ Leftovers Iron Barbs 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD Careful -Power Whip -Gyro Ball -Spikes -Stealth Rock __________________ C&C The Smog I <3 the Stone Roses Last edited by SkullCandy; Jun 9th, 2012 at 6:40:55 AM.

Jun 19th, 2012, 11:50:37 AM	#20
CottonPuff Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 53 McDonalds	Give me Rotom. I'll be laddering under the alt Sunscreen. __________________ Happiny