Watch Your Step (OU RMT)

Slim Slendy · Jun 12th, 2012, 10:04:58 PM

Forretress @ Red Card
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def/ 252 SpD
Sassy Nature (+SpD, -Spd)
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Volt Switch
[No Speed IVs]

Primarily serves as my lead, with a slight gimmick to it. I've found Forretress to send out invitations to set up sweepers, namely Volcarona, Dragonite, and the like. With this in mind, and my eternal love of pissing off opponents, I provided him with a Red Card. Couple with Sturdy, this makes for one of my favorite tactics, and as far as I've seen, a very effective one. Asides from the obvious entry hazard set up, Volt Switch has been thrown in to discourage switch-ins to Tentacruel and Taunt Jellicent. If Tenta comes in on a non-VS move, I'll make the switch into my own Jellicent.

Jellicent @ Choice Specs
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: HP 164 / SpA 252 / Spe 92
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Surf
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam

I hate Water Spout. I really do. Not only is Jelli rarely ever able to get one off before being slapped in the face with something (entry hazards included) it's really nothing more than a glorified version of surf, at best. The tactic here is to force a switch, once they find out Jelli is packing Specs (in my experience, most assume it's a Support Jelli, commonly hitting it with Taunt.) With Forretresses aforementioned Red Card and Toxic Spike set up (assuming it does work, which is commonly does) Jelli does a lot to the poor unfortunate poke that walks in on it's chosen attack. After the attack (assuming it's not a RSer) generally I either switch into Latios (grass or electric type attack) or Jirachi (Dragonite.)

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
- Iron Head
- Thunder Wave
- Wish
- Stealth Rock

Standard Jirachi shenanigans here. Stealth rock for the general switches and free turns. Thunder wave to hit what TS doesn't (I find em to be generally faster anyway) and Iron head to annoy the piss out of those that refuse to back down. Wish is there for Latios and Jelli, keeping them nice and healthy - especially since Jirachi has a nice base HP, and each em counter the moves aimed at him. One of my favorite supporters overall, fits into the team nicely.

Latios @ Expert Belt
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Surf
- Hidden Power Fire
- Psyshock

Primarily used as a switch after Jirachi, seeing as their weaknesses are, for the most part, completely opposite to one another. Timid nature for the added speed (not a fan of slow attackers, never have and never will be.) Obvious max EV investment in Speed and Special Attack. I used Expert Belt of Life orb due to my dislike of feeling as if my pokemon have a limitied number of attacks before biting the dust, and the generally good coverage this set has anyway.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Spa / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Dragon Claw
- Earth Quake
- Brick Break
- Outrage

Although I generally detest Outrage, due to it's annoying ability to abruptly end a sweep, I find this to be a very effective set when it comes to mopping up the last of the opponents team. Thanks to the entry hazard support, many of the opponents pokes are at least at 50% health, and in some cases, poisoned or paralyzed. This set capitalizes on this, and mows down what remains of the opposing force. Scarf is obvious, for the removal of speed checks. Most other scarfed and choice users will be gone by the time Salamence comes and rears his ugly head - due to the frequency in which they'll need to switch out.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature (+ Spe, - SpD)
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- Overheat
- U-Turn

One of my favorite all time pokes. This guy basically types up all the loose ends throughout my teams, and capitilzies on the entry hazard support in a great way. Mach punch for the other priority users, Close Combat for those massive damage, Overheat for Ferrothorn and even opposing Forretress, and U-Turn to take advantage of Jellicent's water absorb ability, should the opportunity arise. Speed is maxed, along with a speed supporting nature to win speed ties and outspeed Jolly / Timid base speed 100 pokes. I personally don't like using Life Orb, but with Jirachi and it's wish passing, I can forgive it.

First time posting a team here, please be gentle if I've missed something huge. I've considered switching Latios for Zapdos, or even switching Latio's HP Fire for HP Ice, simply because I have lots of problems with Landorus. Only poke I cant seem to touch, due to his resistance to SR, Spikes, and TS. I also know I'm left very exposed to HBers and those who come with Aromatherapy, especially if Jellicent goes down with a RSer on the opposing team.
Let me know what you think! If I missed something, let me know and I'll correct it with all due haste. Thanks in advance to everyone who gives me aid, I'll see you all on the battlefield :)!

Yonko7 · Jun 12th, 2012, 10:31:32 PM

Hi,

One weakness that I see in your team is a weakness to DD Mence. Since your Choice Scarfed Mence is Adamant, then it won't even have the chance to tie the dragon. Since right now the set is all physical, I would recommend using Jolly than Adamant, with Jolly at least now you have the chance to tie a +Spe natured Salamence. Also, one thing to look at is Brick Break. You already have some 'mons that can do damage to Tyranitar and Ferrothorn: Forry hits Tyranitar (I'm gonna suggest something for Forry later); everyone else has something to Super Effectively hit Tyranitar. Ferrothorn is more trouble since only Latios, Mence, and 'Ape hit it effectively.

The new set would now look like:

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To build on the previous, there is a general weakness to Dragons. I find that Toxic Spikes is not utilized fully, so I recommend Gyro Ball > Toxic Spikes. Using Gyro Ball would allow Forry to hit Dragons without being bait.

Gamein99 · Jun 12th, 2012, 10:33:40 PM

Personally I find expert belt on Latios slightly lack luster in its damage output, maybe specs as it huts like a truck, or lo if you like manuverabilty as you hag wish jirachi. You could try hp ice on infernape to hit landerous, instead of u turn. Nice team though. )

Slim Slendy · Jun 12th, 2012, 10:44:36 PM

Thank you both! I love the idea of HP Ice - though the speed drop due to the IV change is a little concerning. Infernape does have an odd base 108 speed though, so I'll try it out now :) I'll edit this with results. As for having Salamence w/ an Adamant nature, that extra 10% attack is far too nice, not to mention, Jirachi will check him pretty well.

I already have spec on Jelli unfortunately, although I do agree that the damage isn't quite as nice. Is there maybe a different 'mon I could use? Preferably with 110 base speed or higher.

Yonko7 · Jun 12th, 2012, 10:51:47 PM

Since your using Jellicant as a Spin Blocker I would recommend using Gengar, since a base 110 speed is wanted. To extend to longevity of said Gengar, I recommend using the Sub+Split set, since it has a form of recovery.

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Slim Slendy · Jun 13th, 2012, 12:22:32 AM

I love Infernape w/ HP Ice. Taken lots of people by surprise lol. Think I'll keep him.
As for the Gengar, I found the lack of coverage hindering =/. As of right now, Gengar loses out to Latios =/. I'm considering maybe trying Alakazam, but it's so frail (not that latios isn't at time.)

Jun 12th, 2012, 10:04:58 PM	#1
Slim Slendy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 51 The Forest of Fools	Watch Your Step (OU RMT) Forretress @ Red Card Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def/ 252 SpD Sassy Nature (+SpD, -Spd) - Spikes - Toxic Spikes - Rapid Spin - Volt Switch [No Speed IVs] Primarily serves as my lead, with a slight gimmick to it. I've found Forretress to send out invitations to set up sweepers, namely Volcarona, Dragonite, and the like. With this in mind, and my eternal love of pissing off opponents, I provided him with a Red Card. Couple with Sturdy, this makes for one of my favorite tactics, and as far as I've seen, a very effective one. Asides from the obvious entry hazard set up, Volt Switch has been thrown in to discourage switch-ins to Tentacruel and Taunt Jellicent. If Tenta comes in on a non-VS move, I'll make the switch into my own Jellicent. Jellicent @ Choice Specs Trait: Water Absorb EVs: HP 164 / SpA 252 / Spe 92 Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Surf - Shadow Ball - Ice Beam I hate Water Spout. I really do. Not only is Jelli rarely ever able to get one off before being slapped in the face with something (entry hazards included) it's really nothing more than a glorified version of surf, at best. The tactic here is to force a switch, once they find out Jelli is packing Specs (in my experience, most assume it's a Support Jelli, commonly hitting it with Taunt.) With Forretresses aforementioned Red Card and Toxic Spike set up (assuming it does work, which is commonly does) Jelli does a lot to the poor unfortunate poke that walks in on it's chosen attack. After the attack (assuming it's not a RSer) generally I either switch into Latios (grass or electric type attack) or Jirachi (Dragonite.) Jirachi @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA) - Iron Head - Thunder Wave - Wish - Stealth Rock Standard Jirachi shenanigans here. Stealth rock for the general switches and free turns. Thunder wave to hit what TS doesn't (I find em to be generally faster anyway) and Iron head to annoy the piss out of those that refuse to back down. Wish is there for Latios and Jelli, keeping them nice and healthy - especially since Jirachi has a nice base HP, and each em counter the moves aimed at him. One of my favorite supporters overall, fits into the team nicely. Latios @ Expert Belt Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse - Surf - Hidden Power Fire - Psyshock Primarily used as a switch after Jirachi, seeing as their weaknesses are, for the most part, completely opposite to one another. Timid nature for the added speed (not a fan of slow attackers, never have and never will be.) Obvious max EV investment in Speed and Special Attack. I used Expert Belt of Life orb due to my dislike of feeling as if my pokemon have a limitied number of attacks before biting the dust, and the generally good coverage this set has anyway. Salamence @ Choice Scarf Trait: Moxie EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Spa / 252 Spe Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA) - Dragon Claw - Earth Quake - Brick Break - Outrage Although I generally detest Outrage, due to it's annoying ability to abruptly end a sweep, I find this to be a very effective set when it comes to mopping up the last of the opponents team. Thanks to the entry hazard support, many of the opponents pokes are at least at 50% health, and in some cases, poisoned or paralyzed. This set capitalizes on this, and mows down what remains of the opposing force. Scarf is obvious, for the removal of speed checks. Most other scarfed and choice users will be gone by the time Salamence comes and rears his ugly head - due to the frequency in which they'll need to switch out. Infernape @ Life Orb Trait: Blaze EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe Naive Nature (+ Spe, - SpD) - Close Combat - Mach Punch - Overheat - U-Turn One of my favorite all time pokes. This guy basically types up all the loose ends throughout my teams, and capitilzies on the entry hazard support in a great way. Mach punch for the other priority users, Close Combat for those massive damage, Overheat for Ferrothorn and even opposing Forretress, and U-Turn to take advantage of Jellicent's water absorb ability, should the opportunity arise. Speed is maxed, along with a speed supporting nature to win speed ties and outspeed Jolly / Timid base speed 100 pokes. I personally don't like using Life Orb, but with Jirachi and it's wish passing, I can forgive it. First time posting a team here, please be gentle if I've missed something huge. I've considered switching Latios for Zapdos, or even switching Latio's HP Fire for HP Ice, simply because I have lots of problems with Landorus. Only poke I cant seem to touch, due to his resistance to SR, Spikes, and TS. I also know I'm left very exposed to HBers and those who come with Aromatherapy, especially if Jellicent goes down with a RSer on the opposing team. Let me know what you think! If I missed something, let me know and I'll correct it with all due haste. Thanks in advance to everyone who gives me aid, I'll see you all on the battlefield :)!

Jun 12th, 2012, 10:31:32 PM	#2
Yonko7 Little kids think life is so easy. That's why they go on and on about their dreams. That's why they never give up. Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 600 Mentor	Hi, One weakness that I see in your team is a weakness to DD Mence. Since your Choice Scarfed Mence is Adamant, then it won't even have the chance to tie the dragon. Since right now the set is all physical, I would recommend using Jolly than Adamant, with Jolly at least now you have the chance to tie a +Spe natured Salamence. Also, one thing to look at is Brick Break. You already have some 'mons that can do damage to Tyranitar and Ferrothorn: Forry hits Tyranitar (I'm gonna suggest something for Forry later); everyone else has something to Super Effectively hit Tyranitar. Ferrothorn is more trouble since only Latios, Mence, and 'Ape hit it effectively. The new set would now look like: ... @Choice Scarf Jolly : Moxie EV: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe -Dragon Claw -Earthquake -Brick Break -Outrage To build on the previous, there is a general weakness to Dragons. I find that Toxic Spikes is not utilized fully, so I recommend Gyro Ball > Toxic Spikes. Using Gyro Ball would allow Forry to hit Dragons without being bait.

Jun 12th, 2012, 10:33:40 PM	#3
Gamein99 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 137 Brantford, Ontario	Personally I find expert belt on Latios slightly lack luster in its damage output, maybe specs as it huts like a truck, or lo if you like manuverabilty as you hag wish jirachi. You could try hp ice on infernape to hit landerous, instead of u turn. Nice team though. ) __________________ Black Friend Code: 1593 0253 2404 Trade Thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3468191

Jun 12th, 2012, 10:51:47 PM	#5
Yonko7 Little kids think life is so easy. That's why they go on and on about their dreams. That's why they never give up. Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 600 Mentor	Since your using Jellicant as a Spin Blocker I would recommend using Gengar, since a base 110 speed is wanted. To extend to longevity of said Gengar, I recommend using the Sub+Split set, since it has a form of recovery. ... @Life Orb Timid EV: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Substitute -Pain Split -Shadow Ball -Focus Blast / Hidden Power Ice *I have Hidden Power Ice slashed because he can help you with the Landorus problem, however, then Gengar becomes unable to hit Tyranitar.

Jun 12th, 2012, 10:44:36 PM	#4
Slim Slendy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 51 The Forest of Fools	Thank you both! I love the idea of HP Ice - though the speed drop due to the IV change is a little concerning. Infernape does have an odd base 108 speed though, so I'll try it out now :) I'll edit this with results. As for having Salamence w/ an Adamant nature, that extra 10% attack is far too nice, not to mention, Jirachi will check him pretty well. I already have spec on Jelli unfortunately, although I do agree that the damage isn't quite as nice. Is there maybe a different 'mon I could use? Preferably with 110 base speed or higher.

Jun 13th, 2012, 12:22:32 AM	#6
Slim Slendy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 51 The Forest of Fools	I love Infernape w/ HP Ice. Taken lots of people by surprise lol. Think I'll keep him. As for the Gengar, I found the lack of coverage hindering =/. As of right now, Gengar loses out to Latios =/. I'm considering maybe trying Alakazam, but it's so frail (not that latios isn't at time.)