Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 - Mark 2 ** Spoilers ** - Page 24

BloodGod22 · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:07:18 PM

I though Kyurem came from out of space( that and the fact that most pokes from the Giant Chasm are aliens)...atleast thats what i understood from B/W 1.

I dont think he is related to the other two.

IncantareFox · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:16:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat BloodGod22

Nope.

Its like Trollfreak is dead set on kicking SR weak pokes while the're down.

I think it's more that Game Freak is focusing on the Japanese metagame, where it's more 3v3 and double battles than single 6v6, so Stealth Rock is less of a concern (or game breaker, arguably) due to format.

pkmn-taicho321 · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:27:06 PM

Choice Scarf Thunderus is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Nice speed 101, but not amazingly fast, amazing SPA (145 wha?) and poor defenses. I see him getting even more use on rain teams with a Thunder/ Hurricane/ HP Coverage (does he get volt switch? if so that too)

I don't know about kyurem, but I'm fairly certain that 170 offensive stat on both formes is going to keep him out of OU. It'll be interesting to see if he can actually survive in the Ubers meta though, with sub-par speed and a weird typing.

Eriorguez · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:31:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat BloodGod22

I though Kyurem came from out of space( that and the fact that most pokes from the Giant Chasm are aliens)...atleast thats what i understood from B/W 1.

I dont think he is related to the other two.

Well, after Rayquaza and Giratina, we are not morons.

The Agonist · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:38:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat pkmn-taicho321

Choice Scarf Thunderus is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Nice speed 101, but not amazingly fast, amazing SPA (145 wha?) and poor defenses. I see him getting even more use on rain teams with a Thunder/ Hurricane/ HP Coverage (does he get volt switch? if so that too)

I don't know about kyurem, but I'm fairly certain that 170 offensive stat on both formes is going to keep him out of OU. It'll be interesting to see if he can actually survive in the Ubers meta though, with sub-par speed and a weird typing.

I don't think Thundurus-T gets Hurricane. So probably Thunder / HP Ice / Nasty Plot / filler.

Rayquaza_ · Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:51:27 PM

95 base speed isn't subpar in ubers.

Missingno. Master · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:23:39 PM

So, anyone in any sort of position to confirm whether Skill Link Minccino can be female?

**R_N** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:47:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat slowkingsley

Here is a link to the move tutors in Japanese.

http://pokebook.jp/data/bw2/move_learn.html

Here is the key to decipher

Code:

	Red(赤)		Blue(青)		Yellow(黄)	Green(緑)

1	Bug Bite	Magic Coat	Bind		Gastro Acid
2	Covet		Block		Snore		Worry Seed
3	Super Fang	Earth Power	Knock Off	Spite
4	Double Chop	Foul Play	Synthesis	After You
5	Signal Beam	Gravity		Heat Wave	Helping Hand
6	Iron Head	Magnet Rise	Role Play	Trick
7	Seed Bomb	Iron Defense	Heal Bell	Magic Room
8	Drill Run	Last Resort	Tailwind	Wonder Room
9	Bounce		Superpower	Sky Attack	Endeavor
10	Low Kick	Elecroweb	Pain Split	Outrage
11	Gunk Shot	Icy Wind	Giga Drain	Recycle
12	Uproar		Aqua Tail	Drain Punch	Snatch
13	Thunderpunch	Dark Pulse	Roost       	Stealth Rock
14	Fire Punch	Zen Headbutt			Sleep Talk
15	Ice Punch	Dragon Pulse			Skill Swap
16			Hyper Voice		
17			Iron Tail

off serebii forums

And, yes, Serperior got Dragon Pulse

**TheMantyke** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:48:35 PM

Holy cow, this sound track is really impressive just from the remixes alone!

Missingno. Master · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:54:47 PM

Finally, the Move Tutor decipheration begins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

And, yes, Serperior got Dragon Pulse

Nice.

I would have preferred word on the Weezing/Gunk Shot situation, of course, but I'm glad Serperior's movepool is getting help.

EDIT: Ghetsis's music sounds like Miror B. took the original Ghetsis battle theme and remixed it himself. It's awesome.

**Stellar** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:55:54 PM

Random note: I think they raised the base happiness of happiness evolution Pokemon in BW2. Both my Riolu and Azurill evolved at 19 without the use of any vitamins/etc. Normally happiness evolution Pokemon evolve mid to late 20s.

Missingno. Master · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:58:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Stellar

Random note: I think they raised the base happiness of happiness evolution Pokemon in BW2. Both my Riolu and Azurill evolved at 19 without the use of any vitamins/etc. Normally happiness evolution Pokemon evolve mid to late 20s.

That's good to know. I intend to have a Lucario on my team in Black 2.

**Stellar** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:59:31 PM

Yeah, it's especially useful because Marill learns Aqua Tail at 20 now. If Azurill didn't evolve by 20, then it misses out on decent STAB for a while.

Missingno. Master · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:01:59 PM

Damnation, Weezing STILL doesn't get Gunk Shot!!!

EDIT: Weedle learns Snore! No longer is it unable to learn Normal moves! It also gets Electroweb.

EDIT: Klinklang doesn't get Superpower.

Count Serperior · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:02:12 PM

Thank you R_N!

Serperior getting D.Pulse~
Finally something to hit dragons with, along with HP Fire for steels.
(Time to get rid of Wring Out, which admittedly kicked ass in the BS)

Anyone know if Black Kyurem got Ice Punch? Poor guy missed out on Icicle Crash : (

Pokebeach has a link to an image that has all the pokemon sprites.
I have to admit I'm really disappointed that we didn't get the Original Dragon.
Even if it wasn't usable, I just wanna see how it looks like!!

Rayquaza_ · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:02:17 PM

Holy mother of god Kyurem gets ROOST, Earth Power and Aqua Tail. No Superpower and Ice Punch (LAME) though.

**R_N** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:06:09 PM

Going through and writing out what mons get what move so we don't have to reference the chart, will just update this post. Let's start with the Unovans. I'll just do the final stage unless the midstages differ

Victini: Signal Beam, Bounce (what), Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Magic Coat, Wonder Room, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Heat Wave, Role Play, Helping Hand, Trick, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap

Serperior: Seed Bomb, Aqua Tail, Dragon Pulse, Iron Tail, Bind, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Giga Drain, Gastro Acid, Worry Seed, Outrage, Snatch, Sleep Talk

Emboar: Covet, Iron Head, Low Kick, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Block, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk

Samurott: Covet, Block, Superpower (oooo), Icy Wind, Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk

Watchog: Covet, Super Fang, Signal Beam, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Last Resort, Aqua Tail, Zen Headbutt, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, After You, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk

Stoutland: Covet, Iron Head, Uproar, Last Resort, Endeavor, Hyper Voice, Snore, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk

Liepard: Covet, Seed Bomb (what), Gunk Shot (Whaaaaat), Foul Play, Dark Pulse, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off,, Role Play, Spite, Trick, Snatch, Sleep Talk

Simisage: Covet, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Role Play, Giga Drain, Worry Seed, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk

Simisear: Covet, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Fire Punch, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Heat Wave, Role Play, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk

Simipour: Covet, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Ice Punch, Superpower, Icy Wind, Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Role Play, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk

Musharna: Signal Beam, Magic Coat, Gravity, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Pain Split, Worry Seed (???), After You, Helping Hand, Trick, Wonder Room, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap

Unfezant: Uproar, Snore, Heat Wave, Tail Wind, Sky Attack, Roost, Sleep Talk

Darkmaster77 · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:07:08 PM

well volcarona got roost and giga drain and for hydreigon earthpower, superpower, aqua tail, roost heat wave and outrage sweet

Missingno. Master · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:08:26 PM

Haxorus doesn't get Fire Punch?! But how?!?!

EDIT: Golurk gets Drain Punch, Durant gets Superpower.

**R_N** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:15:35 PM

I am this close to just saying every Pokemon gets Sleep Talk if only so I can stop confusing it with Stealth Rock

updated my post, obviously

King Serperior · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:19:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Going through and writing out what mons get what move so we don't have to reference the chart, will just update this post. Let's start with the Unovans. I'll just do the final stage unless the midstages differ

Victini: Signal Beam, Bounce (what), Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Magic Coat, Wonder Room, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Heat Wave, Role Play, Helping Hand, Trick, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap

Serperior: Seed Bomb, Aqua Tail, Dragon Pulse, Iron Tail, Bind, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Giga Drain, Gastro Acid, Worry Seed, Outrage, Snatch, Sleep Talk

Emboar: Covet, Iron Head, Low Kick, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Block, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk

Samurott: Covet, Block, Superpower (oooo), Icy Wind, Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk

Watchog: Covet, Super Fang, Signal Beam, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Last Resort, Aqua Tail, Zen Headbutt, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, After You, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk

Stoutland: Covet, Iron Head, Uproar, Last Resort, Endeavor, Hyper Voice, Snore, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk

Liepard: Covet, Seed Bomb (what), Gunk Shot (Whaaaaat), Foul Play, Dark Pulse, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off,, Role Play, Spite, Trick, Snatch, Sleep Talk

WOOT!!!! Serperior, my pride and joy, finally gets his time to shine!!

JulioMD · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:20:34 PM

Reuniclus gets all 3 elemental punches and Superpower.

Gamefreak.

Darkmaster77 · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:23:33 PM

archeops got roost and other good things nice

**locopoke** · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:26:29 PM

New Stealth Rock users:

Gigalith, Excadrill, Seismitoad, Krookodile, Crustle, Carracosta, Archeops, Stunfisk, Druddigon, Golurk, Bisharp, Coballion, Terrakion, Landorus.

Ferrothorn can now use Spikes, Stealth Rock and Leech Seed on the same set.

JulioMD · Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:27:03 PM

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18021727/Tutors.txt

Made by a random anon on 4chan.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:07:18 PM	#576
BloodGod22 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 366	I though Kyurem came from out of space( that and the fact that most pokes from the Giant Chasm are aliens)...atleast thats what i understood from B/W 1. I dont think he is related to the other two. __________________ LULZY

Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:23:39 PM	#582
Missingno. Master Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 659 ???????	So, anyone in any sort of position to confirm whether Skill Link Minccino can be female? __________________ Disclaimer: The above post may or may not have been made by a sane person.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:48:35 PM	#584
TheMantyke Relentless Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,170 Atlanta, GA	Holy cow, this sound track is really impressive just from the remixes alone! __________________

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:01:59 PM	#589
Missingno. Master Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 659 ???????	Damnation, Weezing STILL doesn't get Gunk Shot!!! EDIT: Weedle learns Snore! No longer is it unable to learn Normal moves! It also gets Electroweb. EDIT: Klinklang doesn't get Superpower. __________________ Disclaimer: The above post may or may not have been made by a sane person.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:02:12 PM	#590
Count Serperior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Dubai	Thank you R_N! Serperior getting D.Pulse~ Finally something to hit dragons with, along with HP Fire for steels. (Time to get rid of Wring Out, which admittedly kicked ass in the BS) Anyone know if Black Kyurem got Ice Punch? Poor guy missed out on Icicle Crash : ( Pokebeach has a link to an image that has all the pokemon sprites. I have to admit I'm really disappointed that we didn't get the Original Dragon. Even if it wasn't usable, I just wanna see how it looks like!! __________________ Serperior :: Starmie :: Garchomp

Jun 22nd, 2012, 4:51:27 PM	#581
Rayquaza_ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 694	95 base speed isn't subpar in ubers.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:55:54 PM	#586
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Random note: I think they raised the base happiness of happiness evolution Pokemon in BW2. Both my Riolu and Azurill evolved at 19 without the use of any vitamins/etc. Normally happiness evolution Pokemon evolve mid to late 20s.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:59:31 PM	#588
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Yeah, it's especially useful because Marill learns Aqua Tail at 20 now. If Azurill didn't evolve by 20, then it misses out on decent STAB for a while.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:02:17 PM	#591
Rayquaza_ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 694	Holy mother of god Kyurem gets ROOST, Earth Power and Aqua Tail. No Superpower and Ice Punch (LAME) though.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:06:09 PM	#592
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,309	Going through and writing out what mons get what move so we don't have to reference the chart, will just update this post. Let's start with the Unovans. I'll just do the final stage unless the midstages differ Victini: Signal Beam, Bounce (what), Uproar, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Magic Coat, Wonder Room, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Heat Wave, Role Play, Helping Hand, Trick, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap Serperior: Seed Bomb, Aqua Tail, Dragon Pulse, Iron Tail, Bind, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Giga Drain, Gastro Acid, Worry Seed, Outrage, Snatch, Sleep Talk Emboar: Covet, Iron Head, Low Kick, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Block, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk Samurott: Covet, Block, Superpower (oooo), Icy Wind, Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk Watchog: Covet, Super Fang, Signal Beam, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Last Resort, Aqua Tail, Zen Headbutt, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, After You, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Sleep Talk Stoutland: Covet, Iron Head, Uproar, Last Resort, Endeavor, Hyper Voice, Snore, Helping Hand, Sleep Talk Liepard: Covet, Seed Bomb (what), Gunk Shot (Whaaaaat), Foul Play, Dark Pulse, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off,, Role Play, Spite, Trick, Snatch, Sleep Talk Simisage: Covet, Seed Bomb, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Role Play, Giga Drain, Worry Seed, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk Simisear: Covet, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Fire Punch, Superpower, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Heat Wave, Role Play, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk Simipour: Covet, Low Kick, Gunk Shot, Uproar, Ice Punch, Superpower, Icy Wind, Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, Snore, Knock Off, Role Play, Helping Hand, Endeavor, Recycle, Sleep Talk Musharna: Signal Beam, Magic Coat, Gravity, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Pain Split, Worry Seed (???), After You, Helping Hand, Trick, Wonder Room, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap Unfezant: Uproar, Snore, Heat Wave, Tail Wind, Sky Attack, Roost, Sleep Talk Last edited by R_N; Jun 22nd, 2012 at 6:34:03 PM.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:07:08 PM	#593
Darkmaster77 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 145 Chile , South America	well volcarona got roost and giga drain and for hydreigon earthpower, superpower, aqua tail, roost heat wave and outrage sweet __________________ Here's my NEW thread check it out !!! http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3448118

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:08:26 PM	#594
Missingno. Master Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 659 ???????	Haxorus doesn't get Fire Punch?! But how?!?! EDIT: Golurk gets Drain Punch, Durant gets Superpower. __________________ Disclaimer: The above post may or may not have been made by a sane person.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:15:35 PM	#595
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,309	I am this close to just saying every Pokemon gets Sleep Talk if only so I can stop confusing it with Stealth Rock updated my post, obviously

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:20:34 PM	#597
JulioMD Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 8	Reuniclus gets all 3 elemental punches and Superpower. Gamefreak.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:23:33 PM	#598
Darkmaster77 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 145 Chile , South America	archeops got roost and other good things nice __________________ Here's my NEW thread check it out !!! http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3448118

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:26:29 PM	#599
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,744	New Stealth Rock users: Gigalith, Excadrill, Seismitoad, Krookodile, Crustle, Carracosta, Archeops, Stunfisk, Druddigon, Golurk, Bisharp, Coballion, Terrakion, Landorus. Ferrothorn can now use Spikes, Stealth Rock and Leech Seed on the same set.

Jun 22nd, 2012, 6:27:03 PM	#600
JulioMD Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 8	http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18021727/Tutors.txt Made by a random anon on 4chan.