Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 - Mark 2 ** Spoilers ** - Page 5

The Reptile · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:16:01 AM

I'm with R_N on this, there is little evidence supporting the truth in these.

I would like point that it make no goddamn sense for N to be champion or for Ghetsis to have less pokemon than before. Also, Gym Leaders don't get starter pokemon in their team iirc. Add in the fact that they would not make Horn Leech a tutor move (seeing as it is a signature move, which only gets changed in later generations bar events) and the location of the E4, not to mention fucking skarmory makes this seem like a fake.

However, that tutor list doesn't seem too far from a real one bar Horn Leech and I guess Aqua Tail.

EDIT: Yay, not I don't need to spend a fuck ton of hours in a cave trying to get an elemental stone! :D I mean, I do need to grind up BP points, but at least that's a bit entertaining, if not very entertaining

Katakiri · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:19:10 AM

Aqua Tail was a Platinum tutor move. They tend to recycle moves so real or not, Aqua Tail is probably around somewhere since I'm sure there's more than one or two tutors.

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08:17; There's a move tutor in Drifveil City. He teaches ... These cost Shards to teach

Thank god for Action Replay. Shards are horrible to grind for. There were a good number lying around, but nowhere near enough; and the 5% chance to find a Star Piece on Staryu was just hilarious.

IncantareFox · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:23:00 AM

PokeBeach just confirmed Skyla's team as Swoobat, Skarmory, and Swanna, which casts some doubt on the rumors.

Ketsuban · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:23:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Reptile

I would like point that it make no goddamn sense for N to be champion or for Ghetsis to have less pokemon than before.

N being champion is a judgment call regarding how the plot of the games goes. As for Ghetsis' roster, they didn't say that's ALL he has.

If that Opelucid move tutor has any basis in fact then holy shit what just happened.

**R_N** · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:23:19 AM

Skyla's team: Swoobat Lv 37, Skarmory Lv 37, Swanna Lv 39

Hahahahahahaha not too far off, really. Levels were off, Swoobat over Unfezant, but they called Skarmory

IncantareFox · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:26:57 AM

Huh. Looks like Evo Stones sell for 3 BP.

The Reptile · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:27:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ketsuban

N being champion is a judgment call regarding how the plot of the games goes. As for Ghetsis' roster, they didn't say that's ALL he has.

If that Opelucid move tutor has any basis in fact then holy shit what just happened.

I find it hard to believe that a character that is suppose to be missing (iirc, this was comfirmed very early) can walk in the story and become champion.

If it is though, then I am going to look like an asshole. :(

And I'm still having a hard time believing Skarmory. It just seems random. At least in Emerald/Ruby/Sapphire you could catch a Skarm, thus the gym leader having a skarm wasn't too far fetched.

**R_N** · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:27:54 AM

After clearing the game, you will be given a Key - this key allows for changing the game's mode, to Assist Mode (trainers' level will go down), and Challenge Mode (levels will go up).

alright game
you have my attention

Age of Kings · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:28:22 AM

Tutors + DW abilities and new mons yesyesyes DD+Outrage Moxie Mence is legal now and punches for Timburr line are awesome

...but offset by a welcome balance of a hopefully wider Ice Shard distribution

The Reptile · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:31:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

After clearing the game, you will be given a Key - this key allows for changing the game's mode, to Assist Mode (trainers' level will go down), and Challenge Mode (levels will go up).

alright game
you have my attention

Wait, what!?

This actually sounds amazing.

Does this mean multiple saves? Or do we need to reset the entire game to play challenge mode?

Katakiri · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:31:35 AM

What would even get Ice Shard?

Going off of Donphan-logic (aka none) I could see Escavalier, Kabutops, Kyurem obviously, Swampert (He gets Avalanche so why not?), & Blastoise getting the move. Not sure about anything else other than Ice-types.

Ice Punch for Conkeldurr is cute. Now it gets walled by Jellicent, Gyarados, & Tentacruel instead of Gliscor. Well Gyarados less so, but Payback & Stone Edge were both great options.

Krookodile needs some Punches now and Sawk too.

**R_N** · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:36:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Reptile

Wait, what!?

This actually sounds amazing.

Does this mean multiple saves? Or do we need to reset the entire game to play challenge mode?

Maybe it resets the entire regeion's levels?

**Molk** · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:39:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Katakiri

What would even get Ice Shard?

Going off of Donphan-logic (aka none) I could see Escavalier, Kabutops, Kyurem obviously, Swampert (He gets Avalanche so why not?), & Blastoise getting the move. Not sure about anything else other than Ice-types.

Ice Punch for Conkeldurr is cute. Now it gets walled by Jellicent, Gyarados, & Tentacruel instead of Gliscor. Well Gyarados less so, but Payback & Stone Edge were both great options.

Krookodile needs some Punches now and Sawk too.

man, ice shard escavalier would be epic, steel type with ice type priority, gg dnite/mence/ whatever.

ice shard black kyurem would be great too, along with elemental punches sawk :3.

krook would love punches, but would love sucker punch even more, typing and stat wise he is simply a downgraded.

with sucker punch and a cool ability in moxe or intimidate, it could play very similarly to our moling whale, and possibly get more use in OU!

melvni · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:41:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat serebii

10;34; A new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent

Looks like there's finally a disincentive for rage quitting.

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Originally Posted by Fat serebii

10:45; More Move Tutors: Last Resort, Iron defense, Magnet Rise, Magic Coat, Block, Hyper Voice, , Electroweb, Icy Wind, , Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, , Earth Power, Zen Headbutt, , Foul Play, , Superpower, Gravity, , Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse. Cost Blue Shards

First thought, not sure how big an impact it will have but Dark Pulse + Earth Power is now legal on Hydreigon.

IncantareFox · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:49:03 AM

Serebii just announced more tutors

10:45; More Move Tutors: Last Resort, Iron defense, Magnet Rise, Magic Coat, Block, Hyper Voice, , Electroweb, Icy Wind, , Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, , Earth Power, Zen Headbutt, , Foul Play, , Superpower, Gravity, , Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse. Cost Blue Shards

He did not announce ninjas, though.

rocky505 · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:52:03 AM

Serperior will be pleased with some of those.

Nicholas Hewitt · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:53:46 AM

Getting Hydreigon's ideal moveset just got easier than ever.

Katakiri · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:55:25 AM

Called Aqua Tail. Too outclassed by Waterfall for Game Freak to ever let die. Superpower's great, Earth Power...what would get it that doesn't already? Gravity's always chill.

Sad about Ice Shard but I'm disturbed by the lack of Trick so far. Magic Bounce Espeon needs this.

The Reptile · Jun 21st, 2012, 5:56:57 AM

Hopefully Hyper Voice gets spread everywhere. As far as I know, it's the only decent Normal-type special move (that isn't a signature move) bar Tri Attack.

Aside from that, most of these moves are either bad/gimmicky, outclassed, or already well spread. A few exceptions obviously (the only ones I see without doing any research are Hyper Voice and Superpower, which will hopefully be spread everywhere. I guess it does determine who gets what, but most of these moves seem to be everywhere they need to be already that make sense).

IncantareFox · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:00:26 AM

So, I guess the only Gen 4 tutors we're missing thus far are Air Cutter, AncientPower, Dive, Endeavor, Fury Cutter, Gastro Acid, Headbutt, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Heat Wave, Knock Off, Mud-Slap, Ominous wind, Outrage, Pain Split, Rollout, Sky Attack, Spite, Snore, String Shot, Sucker Punch, Swift, Synthesis, Trick, Twister, Uproar, Vacuum Wave, and Worry Seed?

And the only missing Gen 4 TMs are Focus Punch, Water Pulse, Bullet Seed, Giga Drain, Shock Wave, Secret Power, Steel Wing, Skill Swap, Roost, Brine, Endure, Drain Punch, Silver Wind, Recycle, Avalanche, Stealth Rock, Captivate, Sleep Talk, Natural Gift, Defog, and Whirlpool?

rocky505 · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:02:50 AM

Well we still have 2 shard colors left

Cinccino · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:09:14 AM

Hopefully Serp gets Earth Power besides the obvious(?) Dragon Pulse. Leaf Storm / Dragon Pulse / Earth Power / HP Fire is an overkill. :p

barry4ever · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:11:30 AM

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Player on 2ch notices that it seems like Heatran is gonna appear. Probably just him, but you never know.
Nope. Heatran is in fact in the game. Don't believe me? Here.

Pokebeach update. Someone with japanese knowledge please step up !!

ThePillsburyDoughBoy · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:19:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat barry4ever

Pokebeach update. Someone with japanese knowledge please step up !!

Get this man over here right now! TBH though it would be a dick move on GF's part not to include Heatran in the game in some sort of fashion.

Ketsuban · Jun 21st, 2012, 6:21:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat barry4ever

Pokebeach update. Someone with japanese knowledge please step up !!

At a guess (I know some Japanese but I'm far from fluent): "It's said Heatran's whole body is magma, (and) its blood is..."

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:16:01 AM	#101
The Reptile Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 648 Gotta Go Goat!	I'm with R_N on this, there is little evidence supporting the truth in these. I would like point that it make no goddamn sense for N to be champion or for Ghetsis to have less pokemon than before. Also, Gym Leaders don't get starter pokemon in their team iirc. Add in the fact that they would not make Horn Leech a tutor move (seeing as it is a signature move, which only gets changed in later generations bar events) and the location of the E4, not to mention fucking skarmory makes this seem like a fake. However, that tutor list doesn't seem too far from a real one bar Horn Leech and I guess Aqua Tail. EDIT: Yay, not I don't need to spend a fuck ton of hours in a cave trying to get an elemental stone! :D I mean, I do need to grind up BP points, but at least that's a bit entertaining, if not very entertaining __________________ Going around at the speed of Goat. Got places to roam Gotta follow my Gogoat

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:28:22 AM	#109
Age of Kings Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,303 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea	Tutors + DW abilities and new mons yesyesyes DD+Outrage Moxie Mence is legal now and punches for Timburr line are awesome ...but offset by a welcome balance of a hopefully wider Ice Shard distribution __________________ Black FC: 3396 3071 2727 mein crap, don't post please

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:31:35 AM	#111
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 758 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	What would even get Ice Shard? Going off of Donphan-logic (aka none) I could see Escavalier, Kabutops, Kyurem obviously, Swampert (He gets Avalanche so why not?), & Blastoise getting the move. Not sure about anything else other than Ice-types. Ice Punch for Conkeldurr is cute. Now it gets walled by Jellicent, Gyarados, & Tentacruel instead of Gliscor. Well Gyarados less so, but Payback & Stone Edge were both great options. Krookodile needs some Punches now and Sawk too. __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:52:03 AM	#116
rocky505 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	Serperior will be pleased with some of those. __________________ HG FC:4683 7986 4411

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:55:25 AM	#118
Katakiri Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 758 Smogon Mobile. Ugh.	Called Aqua Tail. Too outclassed by Waterfall for Game Freak to ever let die. Superpower's great, Earth Power...what would get it that doesn't already? Gravity's always chill. Sad about Ice Shard but I'm disturbed by the lack of Trick so far. Magic Bounce Espeon needs this. __________________ Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:23:00 AM	#103
IncantareFox Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 70	PokeBeach just confirmed Skyla's team as Swoobat, Skarmory, and Swanna, which casts some doubt on the rumors.

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:23:19 AM	#105
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,309	Skyla's team: Swoobat Lv 37, Skarmory Lv 37, Swanna Lv 39 Hahahahahahaha not too far off, really. Levels were off, Swoobat over Unfezant, but they called Skarmory

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:26:57 AM	#106
IncantareFox Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 70	Huh. Looks like Evo Stones sell for 3 BP.

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:27:54 AM	#108
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,309	After clearing the game, you will be given a Key - this key allows for changing the game's mode, to Assist Mode (trainers' level will go down), and Challenge Mode (levels will go up). alright game you have my attention

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:49:03 AM	#115
IncantareFox Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 70	Serebii just announced more tutors 10:45; More Move Tutors: Last Resort, Iron defense, Magnet Rise, Magic Coat, Block, Hyper Voice, , Electroweb, Icy Wind, , Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, , Earth Power, Zen Headbutt, , Foul Play, , Superpower, Gravity, , Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse. Cost Blue Shards He did not announce ninjas, though.

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:53:46 AM	#117
Nicholas Hewitt Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 Beaconsfield, Melbourne.	Getting Hydreigon's ideal moveset just got easier than ever.

Jun 21st, 2012, 5:56:57 AM	#119
The Reptile Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 648 Gotta Go Goat!	Hopefully Hyper Voice gets spread everywhere. As far as I know, it's the only decent Normal-type special move (that isn't a signature move) bar Tri Attack. Aside from that, most of these moves are either bad/gimmicky, outclassed, or already well spread. A few exceptions obviously (the only ones I see without doing any research are Hyper Voice and Superpower, which will hopefully be spread everywhere. I guess it does determine who gets what, but most of these moves seem to be everywhere they need to be already that make sense). __________________ Going around at the speed of Goat. Got places to roam Gotta follow my Gogoat

Jun 21st, 2012, 6:00:26 AM	#120
IncantareFox Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 70	So, I guess the only Gen 4 tutors we're missing thus far are Air Cutter, AncientPower, Dive, Endeavor, Fury Cutter, Gastro Acid, Headbutt, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Heat Wave, Knock Off, Mud-Slap, Ominous wind, Outrage, Pain Split, Rollout, Sky Attack, Spite, Snore, String Shot, Sucker Punch, Swift, Synthesis, Trick, Twister, Uproar, Vacuum Wave, and Worry Seed? And the only missing Gen 4 TMs are Focus Punch, Water Pulse, Bullet Seed, Giga Drain, Shock Wave, Secret Power, Steel Wing, Skill Swap, Roost, Brine, Endure, Drain Punch, Silver Wind, Recycle, Avalanche, Stealth Rock, Captivate, Sleep Talk, Natural Gift, Defog, and Whirlpool?

Jun 21st, 2012, 6:02:50 AM	#121
rocky505 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	Well we still have 2 shard colors left __________________ HG FC:4683 7986 4411

Jun 21st, 2012, 6:09:14 AM	#122
Cinccino Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 252 Here	Hopefully Serp gets Earth Power besides the obvious(?) Dragon Pulse. Leaf Storm / Dragon Pulse / Earth Power / HP Fire is an overkill. :p __________________ is now RU.