Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 - Mark 2 ** Spoilers ** - Page 70

**R_N** · Oct 21st, 2012, 2:40:27 AM

There is exactly one (1) use of Rock Smash, and that's in Clay Tunnel in the post game to clear a path for workers. It's not even real rock smash rocks.

Flash shows up in Victory Road but it's not that big of a room, you could probably just go around just fine
(Also it's a mostly widespread TM, you could probably just juggle it if you really really needed it)

Antihaxxer · Oct 21st, 2012, 3:59:05 AM

Fly is the only mandatory HM ... It saves hours of walking /running
Surf is useful (and powerful) in the end of game (Near Seaside cave)

TM13IceBeam · Oct 21st, 2012, 6:39:59 AM

i'm pretty sure surf is needed to get to the plasma frigate near the seaside cave

as for the challenge rock thing, you just need to have a fighting-type in your party: it doesn't even need to have rock smash

Sprocket · Oct 21st, 2012, 11:23:11 AM

Grab yourself a Golduck and you have Flash, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall covered (Golduck can also use Dive but that isn't needed until post-game). For Rock Smash, Cut, and Fly, Skarmory (caught in Reversal Mountain).

Cobraroll · Oct 21st, 2012, 12:03:43 PM

By the way, am I the only one deeply annoyed by the girl in the gatehouse between Nimbasa and Route 16? She says:
"Three years ago, a Zoroark was hiding it's lair in Lostlorn Forest".
I really think the translation team should have caught this glaring error. Time to write them a sternly worded letter.

inanimate blob · Oct 21st, 2012, 12:14:36 PM

Did anyone else start laughing when they saw the dancing men between route 14 and Black City / White Forest? I thought it was the most half-assed obstacle that Trollfreak's put in yet.

Present · Oct 21st, 2012, 12:23:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat inanimate blob

Did anyone else start laughing when they saw the dancing men between route 14 and Black City / White Forest? I thought it was the most half-assed obstacle that Trollfreak's put in yet.

Especially what they are saying: "We are dancing without reason. Someday we will disappear without reason."

That sounds totally legit...

dbcb · Oct 21st, 2012, 12:25:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Scarfwynaut

I don't have the game yet but I hear there are modes in this game. Is this true, and if so what is the hardest mode and how hard is it.

If this is just something out of someone's ass though, I wouldn't be surprised.

There is a challenge mode. You have to beat B2 first though or have it transfered which is just stupid. Or you can open it by "other" means which is what I did.

It makes all of the e4 and gym leaders stronger with more pokemon, supposedly better AI, more items, and higher level pokes. Not sure if the rival and other trainers are different or not

You can check out Serebii and it has the differences between the challenge and non challenge mode for each gym leader and e4 member.

Antihaxxer · Oct 22nd, 2012, 3:38:25 AM

How many medals do you have ?

Have you decided to collect all of them ?

I love these ! It adds so much challenge in the game ! :)

Tofu · Oct 22nd, 2012, 7:45:28 AM

@Anti
Not many lol.
Not trying to collect them at the moment.

Is there a reward for collecting them all?.

Sprocket · Oct 22nd, 2012, 10:07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Tofu

@Anti
Not many lol.
Not trying to collect them at the moment.

Is there a reward for collecting them all?.

A medal that says you collected them all. And maybe an update to your trainer card.

Tofu · Oct 22nd, 2012, 9:52:57 PM

Lol lousy incentive.
Won't waste my time then.

What do you all think of the pokedex completion rewards?.
The nature preserve + shiny haxorus is real nice.
The charms seem very average, considering how much more effort it takes to get them. Anyone know how much the shiny charm increases shiny encounter rate by?.

Zowayix · Oct 22nd, 2012, 10:32:12 PM

The Shiny Charm makes the game try to generate a shiny two extra times.

So the regular chance of getting a shiny triples, from 1/8192 to 3/8192.
The chance of getting a shiny through the Masuda Method increases slightly, from 6/8192 to 8/8192.

**R_N** · Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:31:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

A medal that says you collected them all. And maybe an update to your trainer card.

Apparently you get a ~special ceremony~ at the medal HQ for getting them all.
I wonder if anyone has gotten all of them legitimately. The passerby stuff & the Do Fun Fest Missions with x amount of people Medals seem pretty much impossible outside japan (shoot even in Japan, probably).

So cruel that you have to get all the medals for the trainer star.

Scepticallistic · Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:32:09 AM

Forgive me if I missed discussion of this earlier in the thread, but is there an easy way to farm shards for move tutors?

It seems like such a shame we can get easy Star Pieces each day in BW2, but the NPC who trades Star Pieces for one of each shard is only in Platinum so far.

It's never easy is it?

**R_N** · Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:48:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Scepticallistic

Forgive me if I missed discussion of this earlier in the thread, but is there an easy way to farm shards for move tutors?

It seems like such a shame we can get easy Star Pieces each day in BW2, but the NPC who trades Star Pieces for one of each shard is only in Platinum so far.

It's never easy is it?

I think your best bet if you don't just want to grind dust clouds with Repels (made easier with the prompt to use another after it runs out) is to just constantly Run from PWT battles.
As a consolation prize, you'll get a random shard.

Antihaxxer · Oct 23rd, 2012, 2:36:21 AM

I've almost finished the game in my language (after Japanese one) and I'm a bit disappointed by the gym leaders. In BW1 they were useful for the storyline except the Trio brothers. In BW2, only Cheren & Marlon are really interested in the storyline (Marlon is helping & funny :D)

TM13IceBeam · Oct 23rd, 2012, 4:15:30 AM

Marlon's initial response to Team Plasma is kind of funny.

He doesn't even care. Win.

Sprocket · Oct 23rd, 2012, 11:52:57 AM

When you're going after the mono-type Elite Four medals, as long as your whole team has a common typing (even with multi-type pokemon) you will get a medal.

IE: A team consisting of Latios, Garchomp, and Dragonite will suffice for the Dragon-type metal.

Also, if you solo the Elite Four with a multi-type Pokemon (like Reshiram), you will get the medal for both types (in Reshi's case, Fire and Dragon).

Antihaxxer · Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:44:46 PM

When you say "Solo", does you mean having only one pokemon in your team or only one pokemon used in the 5 battles ?

Sprocket · Oct 23rd, 2012, 2:09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

When you say "Solo", does you mean having only one pokemon in your team or only one pokemon used in the 5 battles ?

Only one Pokemon on your team.

If you intend on getting that medal, it's by far the easiest to get when you battle the Elite Four for the very first time, as they are lower level than when you rematch them.

**R_N** · Oct 23rd, 2012, 7:12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

I've almost finished the game in my language (after Japanese one) and I'm a bit disappointed by the gym leaders. In BW1 they were useful for the storyline except the Trio brothers. In BW2, only Cheren & Marlon are really interested in the storyline (Marlon is helping & funny :D)

Burgh chases them down the sewers which is about what he did in BW1
Roxie was helping Hugh at the Virbank docks and went off to check elsewhere
Drayden was fairly integral

Elesa & Skyla didn't really do anything in either games unless you want to count coming in at the last minute to battle the sages

Clay was the only one who did things in BW1 that didn't really do anything in BW2

KarateF22 · Oct 24th, 2012, 2:49:51 AM

Latias sucker punched me into a battle before I could save and I accidently Ko'd it. Does it respawn?

Progeusz · Oct 24th, 2012, 8:13:12 AM

Clay created whole PWT, I think he did quite much.

Present · Oct 24th, 2012, 11:07:55 AM

@KarateF22 I can't find any confirmation, but I guess she does. The mechanics between BW and BW2 did not change drastically, so I guess that they, just like in BW, will respawn after defeating the elite four again if you did not capture it. So I would advice you to beat the elite four once more and see if it re-appears. I am almost 100% certain that they do re-appear.

Oct 21st, 2012, 6:39:59 AM	#1728
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	i'm pretty sure surf is needed to get to the plasma frigate near the seaside cave as for the challenge rock thing, you just need to have a fighting-type in your party: it doesn't even need to have rock smash __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Oct 21st, 2012, 11:23:11 AM	#1729
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,494 Phoenix, AZ	Grab yourself a Golduck and you have Flash, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall covered (Golduck can also use Dive but that isn't needed until post-game). For Rock Smash, Cut, and Fly, Skarmory (caught in Reversal Mountain). __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 21st, 2012, 12:14:36 PM	#1731
inanimate blob Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,162 does this look like the face of mercy	Did anyone else start laughing when they saw the dancing men between route 14 and Black City / White Forest? I thought it was the most half-assed obstacle that Trollfreak's put in yet. __________________ trumpet gang or die hoenn 5evur

Oct 22nd, 2012, 7:45:28 AM	#1735
Tofu Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 31	@Anti Not many lol. Not trying to collect them at the moment. Is there a reward for collecting them all?. __________________ . . ___{{ . (=0_{{ ~\|~_ ._\|~ (=0 {{ .... \| (_)~\|~\|_\| . (=0¯{{ Latest RMT \| Fanart \| Blog . . ¯¯¯{{ Battle Name: Kuroh

Oct 22nd, 2012, 9:52:57 PM	#1737
Tofu Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 31	Lol lousy incentive. Won't waste my time then. What do you all think of the pokedex completion rewards?. The nature preserve + shiny haxorus is real nice. The charms seem very average, considering how much more effort it takes to get them. Anyone know how much the shiny charm increases shiny encounter rate by?. __________________ . . ___{{ . (=0_{{ ~\|~_ ._\|~ (=0 {{ .... \| (_)~\|~\|_\| . (=0¯{{ Latest RMT \| Fanart \| Blog . . ¯¯¯{{ Battle Name: Kuroh

Oct 21st, 2012, 2:40:27 AM	#1726
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,427	There is exactly one (1) use of Rock Smash, and that's in Clay Tunnel in the post game to clear a path for workers. It's not even real rock smash rocks. Flash shows up in Victory Road but it's not that big of a room, you could probably just go around just fine (Also it's a mostly widespread TM, you could probably just juggle it if you really really needed it)

Oct 21st, 2012, 3:59:05 AM	#1727
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 339	Fly is the only mandatory HM ... It saves hours of walking /running Surf is useful (and powerful) in the end of game (Near Seaside cave)

Oct 21st, 2012, 12:03:43 PM	#1730
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 750	By the way, am I the only one deeply annoyed by the girl in the gatehouse between Nimbasa and Route 16? She says: "Three years ago, a Zoroark was hiding it's lair in Lostlorn Forest". I really think the translation team should have caught this glaring error. Time to write them a sternly worded letter.

Oct 22nd, 2012, 3:38:25 AM	#1734
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 339	How many medals do you have ? Have you decided to collect all of them ? I love these ! It adds so much challenge in the game ! :)

Oct 22nd, 2012, 10:32:12 PM	#1738
Zowayix Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 335 USA	The Shiny Charm makes the game try to generate a shiny two extra times. So the regular chance of getting a shiny triples, from 1/8192 to 3/8192. The chance of getting a shiny through the Masuda Method increases slightly, from 6/8192 to 8/8192. __________________ Writing a haiku With seventeen syllables Is really diffi--

Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:32:09 AM	#1740
Scepticallistic Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,166	Forgive me if I missed discussion of this earlier in the thread, but is there an easy way to farm shards for move tutors? It seems like such a shame we can get easy Star Pieces each day in BW2, but the NPC who trades Star Pieces for one of each shard is only in Platinum so far. It's never easy is it? __________________ *Unicorn Parade \| Blogcomic* Doodles and ravings

Oct 23rd, 2012, 2:36:21 AM	#1742
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 339	I've almost finished the game in my language (after Japanese one) and I'm a bit disappointed by the gym leaders. In BW1 they were useful for the storyline except the Trio brothers. In BW2, only Cheren & Marlon are really interested in the storyline (Marlon is helping & funny :D)

Oct 23rd, 2012, 4:15:30 AM	#1743
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Marlon's initial response to Team Plasma is kind of funny. He doesn't even care. Win. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Oct 23rd, 2012, 11:52:57 AM	#1744
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,494 Phoenix, AZ	When you're going after the mono-type Elite Four medals, as long as your whole team has a common typing (even with multi-type pokemon) you will get a medal. IE: A team consisting of Latios, Garchomp, and Dragonite will suffice for the Dragon-type metal. Also, if you solo the Elite Four with a multi-type Pokemon (like Reshiram), you will get the medal for both types (in Reshi's case, Fire and Dragon). __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 23rd, 2012, 1:44:46 PM	#1745
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 339	When you say "Solo", does you mean having only one pokemon in your team or only one pokemon used in the 5 battles ?

Oct 24th, 2012, 2:49:51 AM	#1748
KarateF22 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 101	Latias sucker punched me into a battle before I could save and I accidently Ko'd it. Does it respawn?

Oct 24th, 2012, 8:13:12 AM	#1749
Progeusz Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 115	Clay created whole PWT, I think he did quite much.

Oct 24th, 2012, 11:07:55 AM	#1750
Present Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 340 By choice or chance, you cannot control what you are not aware of.	@KarateF22 I can't find any confirmation, but I guess she does. The mechanics between BW and BW2 did not change drastically, so I guess that they, just like in BW, will respawn after defeating the elite four again if you did not capture it. So I would advice you to beat the elite four once more and see if it re-appears. I am almost 100% certain that they do re-appear.