So, now that we know everything, can we start the updates?

Cherub Agent · Jun 23rd, 2012, 5:56:55 AM

We know tutors, level up changes, and the few TM changes (only real one of note is Wild Charge Klinklang iirc). So can we start theorymon skeletons (actually isn't PS! already updated?) and get cracking?

**ginganinja** · Jun 23rd, 2012, 6:05:52 AM

Can we wait like, a few days for everything to die down, dust to settle, before we start testing things, skeletons etc. PS hasn't even been live for 24 hours yet (iirc) so can we just wait and see what develops and stuff so we can get a clear idea of the status of the metagame?

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If im in a minority here then feel free to ignore my post I guess

**sandshrewz** · Jun 23rd, 2012, 10:29:22 AM

ginganinja's point is pretty valid I think. Updates shouldn't be done now as it'll encourage too much theorymon. Furthermore, not all new threats might be identified etc yet so we should probably wait. Updating too early might make analyses inaccurate as they might not take into account of the full changes to a metagame.

However, I'm wondering, what are we going to do with half/near-completed analyses and articles? Do we continue with them until we agree to update everything starting from a certain date, or do we redo it to suit the new metagame? The former might be okay as PO might not be so quick to implement everything? ?_?

SuperJOCKE · Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:42:20 PM

Yeah, I have to agree with the two above me.

What's with the rush exactly? I would rather see everything settle down first and then start and get good quality analyses and much less theorymon, rather than rush this just to get it on site or whatever your intentions are ASAp. There are some DW abilities to discover as well. For example, Regenerator Alomomola and Sand Veil Stunfisk are apparently released in the Sparkling Sea area in the DW.

I'll say we just take a few days to let things settle.

Cherub Agent · Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:48:07 PM

I see your point, it probably is better off to wait. However, wouldn't it be possible for us just to put up some theorymon skeletons? They would be enough to give people an idea of what all the new changes make Pokemon capable of, but we could set a date (mabye in like a week or so) before the skeletons can get quality control approved.

**AccidentalGreed** · Jun 23rd, 2012, 1:10:21 PM

At best, give QC skeletons a couple of more days, since, at this point, they're encouraging Theorymon. The game has only been officially released yesterday, and we haven't even settled the matter of what Pokemon we're gonna retest (if even that) or ban. I know the tensions are high, and people want their own dose of ~~cocaine~~ analyses, but we don't know "everything" yet. Wait for the storm to reach its calm.

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Originally Posted by Fat sandshrewz

However, I'm wondering, what are we going to do with half/near-completed analyses and articles? Do we continue with them until we agree to update everything starting from a certain date, or do we redo it to suit the new metagame? The former might be okay as PO might not be so quick to implement everything? ?_?

*sigh* Yes, I was afraid of this. Since Pokemon BW2 has just come out, we need to finish these articles as soon as possible for the most recent updates. After that, we CAN update the articles. If you need to tweak or articles a bit further, do so. For example, the OU Threatlist WOULD be ready to upload, but the only thing getting in the way is a paragraph on Celebi. Finish that, we're done. If we try redoing stuff now, all that work does to waste.

***Oglemi**** · Jun 24th, 2012, 5:34:19 PM

Just posting to say that we're holding off on allowing people to reserve/write analyses for BW2 until July 8th for all tiers in C&C. This will allow time for the QC members to play with a large majority of the new threats in the game and become familiar with the metagame so that they can make more informed decisions on the analyses.

Happy playtesting until then!

Jun 23rd, 2012, 5:56:55 AM	#1
Cherub Agent I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. Which is more than I can say for you Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,246 intimidatingly cute Mentor	So, now that we know everything, can we start the updates? We know tutors, level up changes, and the few TM changes (only real one of note is Wild Charge Klinklang iirc). So can we start theorymon skeletons (actually isn't PS! already updated?) and get cracking? __________________ (16:08) <@skylight> BUT I DID NOTHING WRONG (16:08) <@skylight> CHERUB (16:08) <@skylight> i will FUCK YOU (17:20) <@skylight> ill luvdisc your ass

Jun 23rd, 2012, 6:05:52 AM	#2
ginganinja Delena 4ever Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,101 In Love	Can we wait like, a few days for everything to die down, dust to settle, before we start testing things, skeletons etc. PS hasn't even been live for 24 hours yet (iirc) so can we just wait and see what develops and stuff so we can get a clear idea of the status of the metagame? Note If im in a minority here then feel free to ignore my post I guess __________________

Jun 23rd, 2012, 10:29:22 AM	#3
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,442 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	ginganinja's point is pretty valid I think. Updates shouldn't be done now as it'll encourage too much theorymon. Furthermore, not all new threats might be identified etc yet so we should probably wait. Updating too early might make analyses inaccurate as they might not take into account of the full changes to a metagame. However, I'm wondering, what are we going to do with half/near-completed analyses and articles? Do we continue with them until we agree to update everything starting from a certain date, or do we redo it to suit the new metagame? The former might be okay as PO might not be so quick to implement everything? ?_? __________________ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Smogon Sprite Generator \|\| Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:42:20 PM	#4
SuperJOCKE Low Tier Warrior! Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,994 Location: Sweden Mentor	Yeah, I have to agree with the two above me. What's with the rush exactly? I would rather see everything settle down first and then start and get good quality analyses and much less theorymon, rather than rush this just to get it on site or whatever your intentions are ASAp. There are some DW abilities to discover as well. For example, Regenerator Alomomola and Sand Veil Stunfisk are apparently released in the Sparkling Sea area in the DW. I'll say we just take a few days to let things settle. __________________

Jun 23rd, 2012, 12:48:07 PM	#5
Cherub Agent I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. Which is more than I can say for you Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,246 intimidatingly cute Mentor	I see your point, it probably is better off to wait. However, wouldn't it be possible for us just to put up some theorymon skeletons? They would be enough to give people an idea of what all the new changes make Pokemon capable of, but we could set a date (mabye in like a week or so) before the skeletons can get quality control approved. __________________ (16:08) <@skylight> BUT I DID NOTHING WRONG (16:08) <@skylight> CHERUB (16:08) <@skylight> i will FUCK YOU (17:20) <@skylight> ill luvdisc your ass

Jun 24th, 2012, 5:34:19 PM	#7
*Oglemi I crashed my car into the bridge, I don't care Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,532 ~(^.^)~	Just posting to say that we're holding off on allowing people to reserve/write analyses for BW2 until July 8th for all tiers in C&C. This will allow time for the QC members to play with a large majority of the new threats in the game and become familiar with the metagame so that they can make more informed decisions on the analyses. Happy playtesting until then! __________________ <shade> what an intense scrotum