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standing in the eye of the hurricane
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Rated Ubers
Ubers 1337 Stats
Ubers Lead Usage
Moveset Analysis May 2012 statistics Well, we had about half of the battles of last month, but with the transition to PS! and PO server crashing, I suppose it's okay. Glad to see Kyogre isn't numer #1 in 1337 anymore, other Pokemon need some love too! Giratina also passed Giratina-O in the rated stats, which is quite surprising actually. Tyranitar slowly rises and gets closer and closer to top 10, that's also a nice thing to see. Next month our statistics will indlude BW2 stuff from our PS! server. To visit PS! click here. Happy discussing! |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I think it's interesting that a lot of stall pokemon are higher up on the "1337" list, haha. Just goes to underscore that we're in a stallish metagame right now.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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I still don't get why charizard is so high up. I guess I used it more than i expected...:p
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I'm not sure about others, but I think it's frowned upon to deliberately spam bad Pokemon in losing battles to inflate their stats. We're trying to get information about the metagame, and spamming stuff like Charizard and Magikarp, to the point that they see more usage than many Arceus formes, really messes it up.
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Wow! Palkia is king of 1337! Maybe it says something.
With the previous commonplace leaders of Ferrothorn and Kyogre, this may mean that rain is taking a step down from the throne. Ferro and Kyogre, obviously, are Rain-centered, and Palkia is one of the common ways to handle the core. The fact that its usage outranks that of its prey (or of its benefactor, depending on how you look at it) may show that the Ubers metagame (pre BW2, of course) is taking a more diverse turn in terms of weather. 1 | Palkia | 954 | 60.418% | 675 | 55.647% | | 2 | Kyogre | 860 | 54.465% | 629 | 51.855% | | 3 | Dialga | 796 | 50.412% | 636 | 52.432% | | 4 | Groudon | 697 | 44.142% | 527 | 43.446% | | 5 | Arceus | 665 | 42.115% | 478 | 39.406% | | 6 | Ferrothorn | 569 | 36.035% | 467 | 38.500% | | 7 | Mewtwo | 463 | 29.322% | 295 | 24.320% | | 8 | Arceus-Ghost | 450 | 28.499% | 350 | 28.854% | | 9 | Ho-Oh | 394 | 24.953% | 326 | 26.876% | | 10 | Forretress | 342 | 2 |1.659%| 301 | 24.815% Note how positions 4, 9, and 10 are occupied by frequent members of Sun teams. While it should be duly noted that rain has not died out at all (that's never going to happen), it seems that better teams are being constructed by better players that aren't using the stereotypical rain to succeed. Heck, more sand is being run than Darkrai! Looks like we're moving towards Sun Stall being a more prevalent threat than usually, and as such it looks like we're going to need to adjust to cope. |
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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The only thing I'm wondering is:
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On a different note, I think I'll try out a core of giratina-o and arceus-steel, it seems like that core could work very well in a tier dominated by things like the new kyurem forms and the likes of mewtwo.
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palkia is usable in all weathers so it hardly indicates a fall in rain.
you don't even need to attempt to deduce that kind of thing since you can see usage stats of all the weather summoners.
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Why do you need to have a solid switch-in to SpecsOgre? Offensive teams will just sac a mon and get a sweeper in for free on the choiced attack. The only teams that need Latias/Grassceus/Palkia are those that are using Pokemon like Forretress or whatever.
And even then, it doesn't matter. Snipor used Forretress on an offensive team, and despite being weak to DDRay, it didn't matter since he knew how to play Forretress against such teams (Volt Switch was good for Forry this gen). Many other teams have had slight SpecsOgre issues, but the players knew how to play around them. A team can't prepare for everything. Kevin Garett's famous OU stall team at the end of Gen IV had no solid answer to Crocune/Cursepert, but he could still handle them via phazing and Spikes abuse. You just have to prepare for as much as you can, and play around everything else. |
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[02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It
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To be honest Parasect is still an incredibly bad Pokemon in Ubers (it was never good...), and it didnt quite help that entry hazard stacking has gotten more common and the fact that Soul Dew Latias has just returned into the game as the premier Kyogre counter (she's not immune to Spout but she can take an Ice Beam unlike Parasect and has a lot of utility).
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I guess the days of "Parasect is Uber strong" have passed for some, but the motto will never expire for me. While Parasect is functional in OU (I have a Dark Horse team that I still need to craft on PokemonShowdown! to retest for B2W2), it is best served in Ubers being Uber strong. I have to stay Uber strong, so back to testing Ubers stuff I go. 'Sides, I needed a reason other than testing Regenerator Ho-Oh to get back to Uber anyway. I've spent my days trying to fix other tiers such that I've neglected Ubers for too long. |
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Birds RULE kacaw!
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Parasect sucks, even with the addition of Leech Seed. I did used Parasect before and it annoyed even Calm Mind Arceus with Leech Seed, and Dry Skin in rain. Also, Parasect is piss slow, I rather use Gastrodon in the end. Electric immune, bulkier, Recover, Scald and usable Special Attack stat, especially in rain and potentially grab a boost which is pretty easy with so many Kyogre around. Quote:
Hippowdon and Terrakion being used more than Lugia in 1337 stats is pretty surprising.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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I tried going on the moveset analysis but it said error page 404 not found
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standing in the eye of the hurricane
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That's because po.smogon.com is down, for some reason.
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 353
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The new usage for ubers shows over 12000 battles. Is this the higest ever?
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Barry4edit: July stats are up, so locking this. That will be all, thanks! oh and furai is a furry. Last edited by barry4ever; Aug 2nd, 2012 at 9:20:26 AM. |
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