BW2 Uber Metagame Discussion Thread: Clean Version - Page 4

Splendiferous · Aug 24th, 2012, 2:56:50 PM

Twave kyogre is an excellent set especially since everything that switches into kyogre, except ferro, hates getting paralysed (latias/os, palkia, grassceus, dialga). I've been using a set with twave/cm/surf/ice beam and it can even beat ferro easily after it takes some initial damage from switching around earlygame.

EspeonX · Aug 25th, 2012, 9:43:15 AM

Yeah, I've run a set like that, but TWave/Thunder/Surf/Ice Beam. It does cause grief to special sweepers.

Anyways, what is this Tailwind Kyurem-W and Reshiram core I've been hearing about?

**Furai** · Aug 25th, 2012, 10:01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat EspeonX

Anyways, what is this Tailwind Kyurem-W and Reshiram core I've been hearing about?

I have actually wrote about this core in the latest issue of The Smog, issue #21, in the Ubers Cores article. Scroll down to the New and Potentially Powerful Cores section and you'll see it as the first one.

EspeonX · Aug 25th, 2012, 10:29:51 AM

Interesting stuff there indeed...I might test it out, and Forretress would make a decent partner for the duo. Taking Dragon/Physical Fighting/Ice/Physical Rock and such seems good.

**Pocket** · Oct 19th, 2012, 5:27:59 AM

I am making a team and for the final member I was wondering which Pokemon would abuse Spikes best - Skymin, Darkrai, or Mewtwo? Skymin has the SubSeed combo to really annoy the opponent and forces switching, but Darkrai does that too with Dark Void. Mewtwo is just a top-tier Pokemon that can wall-break with a bit of hazards and clean late-game.

I figured those would be the best abusers of Spikes, but if you guys have better suggestions, I'm all ears! I don't have a weather mon, so weather-dependent mons wont work as well.

Go10 · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:56:15 PM

If you really want one of those three mons, Mewtwo is the way to go since he's less easy to rk and doesnt need to setup thanks to his raw power, Darkrai and Skymin are too frail for abusing spikes. It depends what're you using in the team though so take care.

Urwurstnightmare · Dec 31st, 2012, 2:51:45 PM

Hey guys do you know a formidable darkrai counter that can also handle Deoxys-A while still synergizing well with Ghost-Arceus.

**Furai** · Dec 31st, 2012, 3:14:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Urwurstnightmare

Hey guys do you know a formidable darkrai counter that can also handle Deoxys-A while still synergizing well with Ghost-Arceus.

Genesect is your man; it revenges both with its STAB U-turn and is also faster when equipped with Choice Scarf.

barry4ever · Jan 2nd, 2013, 9:49:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Furai

Genesect is your man; it revenges both with its STAB U-turn and is also faster when equipped with Choice Scarf.

Genesect isnt a Darkrai counter, the closest you get to a Darkrai counter is probably SpD Kyogre or a Sleep Talk Ho-Oh (lol), but Genesect is a really (really) good check.

~~superbadd~~ · Jan 2nd, 2013, 3:29:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat barry4ever

Genesect isnt a Darkrai counter, the closest you get to a Darkrai counter is probably SpD Kyogre or a Sleep Talk Ho-Oh (lol), but Genesect is a really (really) good check.

Don't forget herracros!

jackm · Jan 7th, 2013, 12:49:01 AM

Heracross isn't solid due to Stone Edge; with Sleep Talk, you never know what's going to happen. Unless you forgo Stone Edge, in which case your coverage is abysmal. Genesect is your guy.

Oct 19th, 2012, 5:27:59 AM	#80
Pocket Talonflame :D Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,302 Bergenfield	I am making a team and for the final member I was wondering which Pokemon would abuse Spikes best - Skymin, Darkrai, or Mewtwo? Skymin has the SubSeed combo to really annoy the opponent and forces switching, but Darkrai does that too with Dark Void. Mewtwo is just a top-tier Pokemon that can wall-break with a bit of hazards and clean late-game. I figured those would be the best abusers of Spikes, but if you guys have better suggestions, I'm all ears! I don't have a weather mon, so weather-dependent mons wont work as well. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 19th, 2012, 12:56:15 PM	#81
Go10 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 775	If you really want one of those three mons, Mewtwo is the way to go since he's less easy to rk and doesnt need to setup thanks to his raw power, Darkrai and Skymin are too frail for abusing spikes. It depends what're you using in the team though so take care. __________________ RMT BW1 Uber - Unlimited Victory Works RMT BW2 Uber - Dark War

Jan 7th, 2013, 12:49:01 AM	#86
jackm Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 331 Seattle	Heracross isn't solid due to Stone Edge; with Sleep Talk, you never know what's going to happen. Unless you forgo Stone Edge, in which case your coverage is abysmal. Genesect is your guy. __________________ "May the odds be ever in your favor" "WTF HAX NOOB" The hills are alive with the sound of PS ladderers. Come over and help out with the Ubers CCAT!

Aug 24th, 2012, 2:56:50 PM	#76
Splendiferous Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 94	Twave kyogre is an excellent set especially since everything that switches into kyogre, except ferro, hates getting paralysed (latias/os, palkia, grassceus, dialga). I've been using a set with twave/cm/surf/ice beam and it can even beat ferro easily after it takes some initial damage from switching around earlygame.

Aug 25th, 2012, 9:43:15 AM	#77
EspeonX Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Yeah, I've run a set like that, but TWave/Thunder/Surf/Ice Beam. It does cause grief to special sweepers. Anyways, what is this Tailwind Kyurem-W and Reshiram core I've been hearing about?

Aug 25th, 2012, 10:29:51 AM	#79
EspeonX Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 69	Interesting stuff there indeed...I might test it out, and Forretress would make a decent partner for the duo. Taking Dragon/Physical Fighting/Ice/Physical Rock and such seems good.

Dec 31st, 2012, 2:51:45 PM	#82
Urwurstnightmare Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 12	Hey guys do you know a formidable darkrai counter that can also handle Deoxys-A while still synergizing well with Ghost-Arceus.