Please pay attention to the title. There is going to be ONE Pokemon mentioned here, not an endless string of more and more obscure (read: non-existent) sets that arise from Counter That Pokemon threads. Admit it, you will never run an Eviolite Gligar just in-case your opponent carries a double-dance Terrakion carrying a Chople Berry.
Our job as a community is to list one or two checks and/or counters to the featured Pokemon. Here are the ground rules:
1. You must list the entire set of each Pokemon with nature, ability, item, and moves. Please, only one slash per move and only 2 slashes per Pokemon, maximum. Please include a sprite, aesthetics do matter.
2. Explain what your set does and how it counters the featured Pokemon. You may even go as far to say how your Pokemon handles the switch-in if you successfully force a switch.
3. You are encouraged to call out other users if their sets stink or praise them if they're good. Feel free to reference another user if you have a similar yet superior option.
4. Don't be ridiculous. Before you write out your set, think for a second: Would I ever run this set on my team other than to counter this specific Pokemon? Is this Pokemon so common and threatening that I must carry a specific, tailor-made counter to it? If yes to the first and no to the second, think of something else.
5. Have fun and play nicely. Any insulting comments / personal assaults will be met with a 2 point infraction. It's one thing to critique or refute someone's set but calling the user a dumbass is something completely different. Watch your attitude.
You must know the following definitions if you want to participate in this thread without embarrassing yourself!
-To be considered a counter, a Pokemon must be able to switch into any of the opponent's moves under normal battle conditions*, including taking damage from Stealth Rock, and reliably KO the opponent before the counter is KOed itself. (props to Woodchuck)
-To be considered a check, a Pokemon must be able to switch into at least one but not all of the opponent's moves under normal battle conditions, including taking damage from Stealth Rock, and reliably KO the opponent before the counter is KOed itself
*Normal Battle Conditions consist of the following:
Resources (these are pretty important if you want to back up your claims!):
Honko's 1v1 Damage Calculator
Honko's One v All Mass Damage Calculator
I or other OU mods who are interested will be updating this thread semi-periodically (right now it's daily, but is subject to change at any time based on our schedules) with a new Pokemon. The title of the thread will reflect the new Pokemon and on which page it is featured. Now let's start!
New Rule: I will be asking certain trusted members to post sets when I don't have time to do so myself. Don't PM me suggestions. OU / Smogon Metagame moderators, feel free to update this yourself if it's time for the current Pokemon to expire, I trust you guys enough.
Newer Rule: 3 sentences per set, minimum. Thanks for understanding!
Index of Featured Pokemon
Terrakion
Cloyster
Salamence
Latios
Jirachi
Toxicroak
Keldeo-R
Heatran
Landorus-I
Starmie
Thundurus-T
Tornadus-T
Breloom
Breloom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Spore
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Stone Edge
I'll start this off with one of the most difficult Pokemon to counter in today's metagame. It's not the most unpredictable Pokemon in the world in regards to its sets, but switching into it is a risky endeavor at best. You risk taking an immediate sleep from Spore or getting pelted by the hilariously strong Technician-boosted Bullet Seed, assuming it hits more than twice. Can anything take Breloom's assaults and live to tell the tale?
Our job as a community is to list one or two checks and/or counters to the featured Pokemon. Here are the ground rules:
1. You must list the entire set of each Pokemon with nature, ability, item, and moves. Please, only one slash per move and only 2 slashes per Pokemon, maximum. Please include a sprite, aesthetics do matter.
2. Explain what your set does and how it counters the featured Pokemon. You may even go as far to say how your Pokemon handles the switch-in if you successfully force a switch.
3. You are encouraged to call out other users if their sets stink or praise them if they're good. Feel free to reference another user if you have a similar yet superior option.
4. Don't be ridiculous. Before you write out your set, think for a second: Would I ever run this set on my team other than to counter this specific Pokemon? Is this Pokemon so common and threatening that I must carry a specific, tailor-made counter to it? If yes to the first and no to the second, think of something else.
5. Have fun and play nicely. Any insulting comments / personal assaults will be met with a 2 point infraction. It's one thing to critique or refute someone's set but calling the user a dumbass is something completely different. Watch your attitude.
You must know the following definitions if you want to participate in this thread without embarrassing yourself!
-To be considered a counter, a Pokemon must be able to switch into any of the opponent's moves under normal battle conditions*, including taking damage from Stealth Rock, and reliably KO the opponent before the counter is KOed itself. (props to Woodchuck)
-To be considered a check, a Pokemon must be able to switch into at least one but not all of the opponent's moves under normal battle conditions, including taking damage from Stealth Rock, and reliably KO the opponent before the counter is KOed itself
*Normal Battle Conditions consist of the following:
- Stealth Rock is up on the counter's (your) side of the field.
- Stealth Rock is not up on the featured Pokemon's (opponent's) side of the field.
- The weather is handled as follows:
- If no weather is listed, the weather is assumed to be clear skies unless the counter has the ability Sand Stream, Snow Warning, Drizzle, or Drought.
- If the Pokemon to be countered can change the weather when a counter with a weather-changing ability comes in, the weather is situational and should be analyzed as such. For example, if the featured Pokemon is Drought Ninetales with Sunny Day and you list Politoed as your counter, you should evaluate the situation with two possiblities, rain or sun.
Resources (these are pretty important if you want to back up your claims!):
Honko's 1v1 Damage Calculator
Honko's One v All Mass Damage Calculator
I or other OU mods who are interested will be updating this thread semi-periodically (right now it's daily, but is subject to change at any time based on our schedules) with a new Pokemon. The title of the thread will reflect the new Pokemon and on which page it is featured. Now let's start!
New Rule: I will be asking certain trusted members to post sets when I don't have time to do so myself. Don't PM me suggestions. OU / Smogon Metagame moderators, feel free to update this yourself if it's time for the current Pokemon to expire, I trust you guys enough.
Newer Rule: 3 sentences per set, minimum. Thanks for understanding!
Index of Featured Pokemon
Terrakion
Cloyster
Salamence
Latios
Jirachi
Toxicroak
Keldeo-R
Heatran
Landorus-I
Starmie
Thundurus-T
Tornadus-T
Breloom
Breloom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Spore
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Stone Edge
I'll start this off with one of the most difficult Pokemon to counter in today's metagame. It's not the most unpredictable Pokemon in the world in regards to its sets, but switching into it is a risky endeavor at best. You risk taking an immediate sleep from Spore or getting pelted by the hilariously strong Technician-boosted Bullet Seed, assuming it hits more than twice. Can anything take Breloom's assaults and live to tell the tale?
