WTF Pokemon: Stats, Moves, and more

Flareon · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:02:36 PM

Some Pokemon have some really peculiar coverage options, or a weird level up movepool, containing either misplaced moves or things that are inconsistent with the Pokemon's appearance/Pokedex entry. This thread's purpose is to try and find the outliers, the weirdest instances.

A notable one would be Wooper's ability to use Ice Punch. Another would be the odd case of Pinsir's level up movepool being almost entirely Fighting-type attacks.

kaps · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:21:03 PM

speaking of punches, shroomish and focus punch

Magcargo 2 · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:28:17 PM

some examples include...
Gastly's ability to use the elemental punches
Mew's ability to learn rock polish
Raticate's ability to use ice beam

Satisfaction · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:30:43 PM

Ghastly can use the punches now? That would've been helpful in Gold. Raticate can use ice beam because the normal types are the versatile type they for the most part have the widest range of movepools, Meowth for example is the only non-dark type to learn foul play (Technically theres seedot but he evolves to a dark type).

The Agonist · Mar 8th, 2013, 11:46:01 PM

Bagon line learning Hydro Pump
Solosis line learning Thunder, but not Thunderbolt
Mankey line learning Thunderbolt and Thunder
Emboar learning Scald
Accelegor and Spikes

Zabel Zarock · Mar 9th, 2013, 12:03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Mankey line learning Thunderbolt and Thunder

Maybe it builds up static? I dunno.

Shedinja learning Final Gambit and other moves that require HP, like Substitute.

Dre89 · Mar 9th, 2013, 12:21:37 AM

Normal pokemon learning elemental moves isn't wierd at all. They're versatile pokemon, and learn them either through TMs or through breeding. That isn't really that ridiculous.

Lickitung not getting lick until GSC was pretty silly.

Diglett learning scratch and slash.

Rhydon learning surf seems odd as it's 4x weak to water.

All the bug/flying types not getting fly, despite two non-flying type bugs getting it.

Vashimus · Mar 9th, 2013, 12:51:56 AM

But Mankey and Primeape are Fighting types, whose movepools primarily consist of martial arts or other physical attacks. Thunder(bolt) makes no sense whatsoever.

When I think of ridiculous movepool, I gotta go with Aggron. That thing's movepool is abnormally immense for a Pokemon of its type, literally learning almost every single respectable attacking move in the game, on top of a myriad of support ones. Too bad he can't he can't take advantage of it as much as other Pokes with big movepools like Nidoking can.

The Agonist · Mar 9th, 2013, 12:53:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zabel Zarock

Shedinja learning Final Gambit and other moves that require HP, like Substitute.

As well as Double Edge, Sandstorm, and Rest. However, I think that's just Gamefreak trolling (like how Shedinja yields 2 HP EVs).

Lord Jesseus · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:27:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dre89

Diglett learning scratch and slash.

I don't see why this is so ridiculous
It probably scratches with the same unseen claws it uses for digging.

Musica · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:28:27 AM

Attract on poor poor Cryogonal.

Magcargo 2 · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:28:44 AM

How does metagross use icy wind?
Also aggron learns solar beam for some reason.

JimmyTheKid · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:32:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zabel Zarock

Maybe it builds up static? I dunno.

Shedinja learning Final Gambit and other moves that require HP, like Substitute.

TrollFreak strikes again.

Also, armless Wooper can use Ice Punch. You know, with it's face or something.

Darknesscrusher · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:48:59 AM

One word: Flareon.

The Agonist · Mar 9th, 2013, 2:55:29 AM

Metang/Metagross w/ Sludge Bomb. Is this like motor oil, or something?
Slowpoke line and Flamethrower/Fire Blast (and Incinerate <_<).
Lombre/Ludicolo and Fire Punch (and to a lesser extent, ThunderPunch).
Wailmer line with Selfdestruct.
Munchlax line with Selfdestruct.
Magby line with Mach Punch.
Victini w/ Glaciate. I know it's an event move, but how in the hell does it blow freezing air at its opponent?

I'll think of more later.

celever · Mar 9th, 2013, 3:41:57 AM

Um, I'll go ahead and link my thread with the exact same topic that like 3 pages down right now into this post. You really need to check a little bit further if you did at all.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3475384

Shiruba · Mar 9th, 2013, 5:49:37 AM

alakazam with iron tail, perhaps?

Magistrum · Mar 9th, 2013, 7:14:33 AM

I guess movepool oddities also imply lack of moves that a pokemon is supposed to have.

Why doesn't Flygon learn Dragon Dance?
Why doesn't Flareon learn Flare Blitz?

Rayquaza_ · Mar 9th, 2013, 7:25:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Magcargo 2

How does metagross use icy wind?
Also aggron learns solar beam for some reason.

Cooling fan?

RegiFlame150 · Mar 9th, 2013, 8:11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Musica

Attract on poor poor Cryogonal.

This, and on Volcarona. Poor bugs, can't find anyone to love them

TM13IceBeam · Mar 9th, 2013, 9:22:05 AM

How exactly does scald emboar work again?

Cobraroll · Mar 9th, 2013, 10:34:27 AM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3475384

Posting again because yeah.

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How exactly does scald emboar work again?

I don't think we want to know. If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth...

HiipFire · Mar 10th, 2013, 7:30:45 AM

Wooper used dynamicpunch!

Zabel Zarock · Mar 11th, 2013, 12:34:16 AM

I never got why Lucario can learn Bone Rush.

I guess its because its a dog or something.

Zentrius · Mar 11th, 2013, 12:41:53 AM

How is Gyaradous supposed to produce electricity?

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Flareon Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 342 Canterlot, Equestria	WTF Pokemon: Stats, Moves, and more Some Pokemon have some really peculiar coverage options, or a weird level up movepool, containing either misplaced moves or things that are inconsistent with the Pokemon's appearance/Pokedex entry. This thread's purpose is to try and find the outliers, the weirdest instances. A notable one would be Wooper's ability to use Ice Punch. Another would be the odd case of Pinsir's level up movepool being almost entirely Fighting-type attacks. __________________ DoctorWhoovesPhD on Youtube, and "Doctor Whooves" on Pojo. Last edited by R_N; Apr 1st, 2013 at 5:35:31 PM.

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The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,999 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	Bagon line learning Hydro Pump Solosis line learning Thunder, but not Thunderbolt Mankey line learning Thunderbolt and Thunder Emboar learning Scald Accelegor and Spikes __________________ #

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Vashimus Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 130	But Mankey and Primeape are Fighting types, whose movepools primarily consist of martial arts or other physical attacks. Thunder(bolt) makes no sense whatsoever. When I think of ridiculous movepool, I gotta go with Aggron. That thing's movepool is abnormally immense for a Pokemon of its type, literally learning almost every single respectable attacking move in the game, on top of a myriad of support ones. Too bad he can't he can't take advantage of it as much as other Pokes with big movepools like Nidoking can. Last edited by Vashimus; Mar 9th, 2013 at 1:04:12 AM.

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kaps Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 191 Texas	speaking of punches, shroomish and focus punch

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Magcargo 2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 499 Skarmory Sands	some examples include... Gastly's ability to use the elemental punches Mew's ability to learn rock polish Raticate's ability to use ice beam

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Satisfaction Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 186 America	Ghastly can use the punches now? That would've been helpful in Gold. Raticate can use ice beam because the normal types are the versatile type they for the most part have the widest range of movepools, Meowth for example is the only non-dark type to learn foul play (Technically theres seedot but he evolves to a dark type).

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Dre89 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 210	Normal pokemon learning elemental moves isn't wierd at all. They're versatile pokemon, and learn them either through TMs or through breeding. That isn't really that ridiculous. Lickitung not getting lick until GSC was pretty silly. Diglett learning scratch and slash. Rhydon learning surf seems odd as it's 4x weak to water. All the bug/flying types not getting fly, despite two non-flying type bugs getting it.

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Magcargo 2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 499 Skarmory Sands	How does metagross use icy wind? Also aggron learns solar beam for some reason.

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The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,999 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	Metang/Metagross w/ Sludge Bomb. Is this like motor oil, or something? Slowpoke line and Flamethrower/Fire Blast (and Incinerate <_<). Lombre/Ludicolo and Fire Punch (and to a lesser extent, ThunderPunch). Wailmer line with Selfdestruct. Munchlax line with Selfdestruct. Magby line with Mach Punch. Victini w/ Glaciate. I know it's an event move, but how in the hell does it blow freezing air at its opponent? I'll think of more later. __________________ #

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celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,059 I HATE COD	Um, I'll go ahead and link my thread with the exact same topic that like 3 pages down right now into this post. You really need to check a little bit further if you did at all. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3475384

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Shiruba Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 562 Canada, land of Meese... Moose? Mooses?	alakazam with iron tail, perhaps?

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