(NU) EHRMAGERD! MAH FIRST TEAM!

Jarrheadd0 · Jul 17th, 2012, 4:56:26 AM

Hey everyone! I'm pretty new here, so I thought I'd post my Pokemon team. This is my first competitive team, and my friend got me into NU, so that's what I play. Anyway, let's get started.

Previous Team

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Current Team:

Sexy, the Garbodor

Item: Leftovers
Ability: stench
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252HP/252Def/4SpD
-Spikes
-Toxic Spikes
-Gunk Shot
-Rock Blast

Sexy is normally my starter. He gets out first to quickly set up as many layers of Spikes and Toxic Spikes as he can muster, and he can almost always set up 2 layers of Toxic Spikes, which is a very big help against every team. He's got the bulk to take a lot of hits while setting things up, and his Gunk Shot has been useful in a pinch. The fact that he's only weak to Psychic and Ground really helps him stay alive to set his traps. He is also my toxic spikes absorber. Sexy usually plays the role of somewhat of a throwaway pokemon once he gets his traps out, but he usually will live to return later in the battle.

The Fonz, the Regirock

Item: Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252HP/ 4Def/ 252SpD
- Drain Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide/Stone Edge

The Fonz acts as a sort of tank/defender. In the case of an opponent with a Rapid Spin user, he acts as lead. Most opponents' leads are very fast and aggressive, so The Fonz can just soak up the damage to prevent a quick loss of one of my more aggressive Pokemon. His Stealth Rock is useful against flying threats, and sets up yet another trap for me. I gave The Fonz Drain punch so he could have a decent move against the dangerous normal types in the meta as well as opposing Regirocks. He also has Earthquake as another generally heavy attack. Normally, Thunder Wave would be a potential choice over Earthquake, but as Pokemon can only have one status condition at once and they are usually poisoned upon entering from Toxic Spikes, Thunder Wave is generally useless.

Don Quixote, the Exeggutor

Item: Sitrus Berry
Ability: Harvest
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248HP/172Def/88Spe
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Giga Drain

Don Quixote is very hard to kill. Between the Sitrus Berry/Harvest Combo and constant Substituting/Leech Seeding, he can basically live forever. His job is to take hits and stall. He goes on the offensive whenever he can, usually when he has Leech Seed set up and a strong Substitute set up. He gains me time to think for the most part. His leech seed can even be used a a pseudo healer if I switch in another Pokemon. Giga Drain is the obvious STAB move, and gains him life at the same time. He's a useful wall that can pack a punch too.

Doorknob, the Absol

Item: Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252Atk/4SpD/252Spe
- Sucker Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- Nightslash

Doorknob is my wall breaker. He can get in quickly, as his speed is quite high. He outspeeds many of the other wall breakers in NU. I often find myself using Superpower for a OHKO and switching out, so he's not really a sweeper. He packs quite a punch with a combination of a boosted attack, powerful moves, and Life Orb. The recoil is generally worth taking for the added benefit of the Life Orb. He is a potential lead, but only if my opponent's lead would be weak to him and I can guarantee Doorknob is faster. He excels at breaking walls and can sweep without much difficulty once he gets going.

Lando, the Rotom-S

Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4Def/252SpA /252Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Air Slash
-Volt Switch
-Trick

Lando provides protection against Samurott, who poses a large threat to my team. His speed and SpA prowess make him a force to be reckoned with. He is an excellent wall breaker and can prevent setup Pokemon from doing their thing with his Choice Scarf/Trick combo. Thunderbolt and Air Slash provide powerful attacks, while Volt Switch can save Lando in a pinch. He is a very offensive wall breaker, the likes of which I'm glad to have on my team.

Gunther, the Golurk

Item: Choice Band
Ability: Iron Fist
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 168HP/252Atk/88Spe
-Earthquake
-Shadow Punch
-Drain Punch
-Ice Punch

Gunther is the ever-necessary spin blocker on this team. With Toxic Spikes and often normal Spikes set up, I need something that can keep the spikes there. That's where Gunther comes in. He also provides protection against Armaldo, who normally ravages the majority of my team. His variety of very powerful moves allows him to have a heyday on many different types of Pokemon. He also works as a wall breaker, knocking down most opposing walls with ease. I decided to put more EVs into HP and fewer into Speed, simply because he needs to live longer, and can still outrun a few things.

Thus concludes my team, and many thanks to ChaoticaMortis, Nyanswag, and MMF for the help! I would still appreciate other points of view and opinions, and any advice, not only in Pokemon/moves/stats, but also in strategy. I'm very new to this and need all the help I can get. Thanks!

ChaoticaMortis · Jul 17th, 2012, 7:32:15 AM

Hi there! Welcome to Smogon! Always glad to see new players in the NU environment, especially those who can humble themselves by putting up their own teams to be rated. Alright, first things first: You need to expand on your descriptions quite a bit. While I've gotten a slight idea as to what each member of your team is supposed to be doing, it's a little difficult for me to offer much help when I don't know the full potential that each of your Pokemon bring to the table. Also, your Regirock needs attacks. Note that your RMT might also become locked by a moderator if you choose not to expand.

I'd like to start the rate by pointing out a few Pokemon that can capitalize on a few common weaknesses on your team. Samurott in particular would be able to really cause you problems, as both of its common sets are able to outpace and beat many members of your team one-on-one. A huge threat that I'm noticing is also Armaldo, who also wouldn't mind going up against Absol, Exeggutor, Drifblim, or even Altaria. I'm just going to give you ways to stop those two for now.

To fix your Samurott problem, there are actually quite a few things you could do. My suggestion would be to swap out your Altaria for Rotom-S (Rotom-Fan).

ROTOM

Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Air Slash
-Volt Switch
-Trick

Alright, with Rotom-S you know have access to one of the fastest sets in the tier. Not only will this allow you to beat Samurott without suffering heavy casualties, but it will also allow you to take on other powerful Pokemon like Gorebyss without breaking a sweat. Trick allows you to cripple walls or trap a Pokemon in a set-up move, and Volt Switch can help you escape from a situation in which you might have mis-predicted a switch.

Moving on, to help against your Armaldo problem I suggest replacing Drifblim with Golurk.

GOLURK

Item: Choice Band
Ability: Iron Fist
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
-Earthquake
-Shadow Punch
-Drain Punch
-Ice Punch

By switching Drifblim to Golurk you both retain the ability to spin block and reduce your weakness to Stealth Rock. Armaldo also can't do ANYTHING to Golurk, who just laughs at him all day. This is a pretty self-explanatory set: You come in on something that can't hurt you (like Armaldo), pick whatever move you think fits the situation best, and watch things die. Golurk is one of the most powerful Pokemon in the tier right now and this set plows through almost anything. This ridiculous amount of power also provides you with another wall-breaking Pokemon (and if I might add, one that is more reliable than Absol).

So now that that's over, I'd like to thank you for giving this a read, encourage you to keep playing, and tell you to have fun battling!

(also, if you do switch to Golurk, you might want to swap out Absol for Skuntank, who performs a similar role to Absol while being bulkier and able to absorb Toxic Spikes)

EDIT: Lol how the fuck did I forget Garbodor absorbed T-Spikes.

Nyanswag · Jul 17th, 2012, 10:43:01 AM

He already has a Toxic Spike absorber but I agree with your other ideas Chaotica.

First off, change your Absol to an Lum Berry Swords Dance set with Psycho Cut instead off Night Slash.

@ Lum Berry
Trait: Super Luck
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Superpower
- Sucker Punch
- Psycho Cut
- Swords Dance
This set will give you a huge advantage vs Amoonguss as you can just SD in its face and OHKO with Psycho Cut, also your Superpower wont give you minus in attack before using it 3 times after SD. Sucker Punch its obvious as you can dent huge damage to everything that doesnt resist it.

MMF · Jul 17th, 2012, 1:58:40 PM

Hey there! Welcome to Smogon and the NU community! I saw a few things that I think need to be fixed so lets get into it shall we?

Firstly your Regirock has no moves and an inefficient EV spread as maxing both Special Defense and Defense is generally worse than maxing your HP and then putting the rest of the EVs into one defensive stat. I think you should use 248 HP / 252 Def / 10 SpDef with a moveset of Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Drain Punch / Rock Slide . Stealth Rock gives you a mini check to things like Swellow and Braviary while Thunder Wave is great in this offensive meta as many things hate being paralyzed such as Cinccino. Drain Punch is a good option to regain health as Regirock with generally take a lot of residual damage over the course of the match and Rock Slide is its STAB move and hits a lot of things neutrally.

Next Altaria really isn't doing anything for you at all. It seems like its trying to do too many things at once which decreases its effectiveness. Chaotica is spot on with his suggestion of Rotom-S which does make Samurott easier to handle and also checks +2 Gorebyss which currently runs through your team like butter. And Rotom-S is an all around solid revenge killer and is pretty bulky as well.

Golurk is also a pretty good suggestion as well although I don't think you need Max Speed as Golurk has some decent bulk that should be taken advantage of. I think you should use 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe. This lets Golurk outspeed 4 Spe Alomomola and 2hko it with hazards up and also gives Golurk some good bulk.

The next thing is pretty small but I recommend using Giga Drain over HP Ice on Exeggutor as HP Ice only really hits Altaria as Psychic hits everything else harder and Giga Drain gives you another STAB move and another way to recover HP.

And lastly CB Absol is pretty much outclassed by LO 4Atks Absol right now. You can keep the same set just with a Life Orb over Choice Band.

Thats all I can think of at the moment but I hope I helped and good luck!

Here's the sets:

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Jarrheadd0 · Jul 17th, 2012, 2:54:43 PM

Okay, I've taken most of the advice, deciding between conflicting opinions based on my own personal opinion. I really appreciate all the help, and I'll post the updated list ASAP.

WhiteDMist · Jul 17th, 2012, 9:24:43 PM

Welcome to Smogon! You already had some of our better players give you advice, and you have changed your team accordingly. I saw your original team, and while it was interesting, it wasn't efficient with its EV spread and movesets (the standard sets tend to be standard for a reason after all). Now that you've adjusted your team, I'll give you some more input.

First, is that Hidden Power Grass I see on Regirock, or was that a typo/accident? If it is meant to be there, remove it! Not only does Regirock have a base 50 SpAtk, it is uninvested meaning it won't even 2HKO a Luvdisc (I'm not even kidding!). I'm assuming that you meant either Earthquake or Thunder Wave of course! ;)

Ice attacks is the Achilles Heel of your team, since you don't resist it at all. That makes specially offensive Water-types a huge threat, with Gorebyss, Samurott, and Rain sweepers being at the front of the line. While Rain teams are rare still, people do use certain sweepers on their own, and Gorebyss is a threat no matter what. Special Samurott is also becoming more common nowadays since physical variants have so much trouble with Regenerator cores.

The best I can advise you without drastically changing your team lineup anymore than it already has is to keep Rotom-S alive and give Regirock a Specially Defensive EV spread. Odd as it may seem, Regirock doesn't need max Def since the physical threats that it can come in on can't scratch it anyways, and the ones that can will still break through it (like Banded Sawk and Golurk). By investing in its Special Defense, Regirock can usually survive any super effective special or physical hit and either set up, status, or attack. Here's the set:

Regirock @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252HP/ 4Def/ 252SpD
- Drain Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide/Stone Edge

Hope I helped! :)

Jarrheadd0 · Jul 18th, 2012, 12:44:08 AM

Thanks a lot for your help, WhiteDMist! And yeah...it was a...typo haha. I'll replace that with Earthquake right away. I also did notice very quickly my weakness to Ice type attacks. I'll change Regirock to the set you suggested, but he's still very weak to Water attacks. If you had any major changes to suggest, I wouldn't be against hearing them as well. But thanks for the help you've given!

Jul 17th, 2012, 4:56:26 AM	#1
Jarrheadd0 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 3	EHRMAGERD! MAH FIRST TEAM! Hey everyone! I'm pretty new here, so I thought I'd post my Pokemon team. This is my first competitive team, and my friend got me into NU, so that's what I play. Anyway, let's get started. Previous Team ... Sexy, the Garbodor Item: Leftovers Ability: stench Nature: Impish EVs: 252HP/252Def/4SpD -Spikes -Toxic Spikes -Gunk Shot -Rock Blast Sexy is normally my starter. He gets out first to quickly set up as many layers of Spikes and Toxic Spikes as he can muster, and he can almost always set up 2 layers of Toxic Spikes, which is a very big help against every team. He's got the bulk to take a lot of hits while setting things up, and his Gunk Shot has been useful in a pinch. The fact that he's only weak to Psychic and Ground really helps him stay alive to set his traps. He is also my toxic spikes absorber. Sexy usually plays the role of somewhat of a throwaway pokemon once he gets his traps out, but he usually will live to return later in the battle. The Fonz, the Regirock Item: Leftovers Ability: Clear Body Nature: Impish EVs: 4HP/252Def/252SpD - Drain Punch - Sleep Talk - Rest - Rockslide The Fonz acts as a sort of tank/defender. In the case of an opponent with a Rapid Spin user, he acts as lead. Most opponents' leads are very fast and aggressive, so The Fonz can just soak up the damage to prevent a quick loss of one of my more aggressive Pokemon. I'm not terribly fond of his Rest/Sleep Talk combo, so that could probably be changed. I gave The Fonz Drain punch so he could have a decent move against the dangerous normal types in the meta as well as opposing Regirocks. SPERKLEBIRD, the Altaria Item: Life Orb Ability: Natural Cure Nature: Jolly EVs: 252HP/4Def/252Spe -Dragon Claw -Aerial Ace -Earthquake -Heal Bell I'm still trying to figure out the roll that SPERKLEBIRD fits. She's part tank, part support, part typing coverage. I dunno. I wanted a core of Dragon/Psychic/Ghost, but I feel like she could be cut for something better if anyone has suggestions. As far as tank, she has boosted HP to take a few hits. She also carries a Life Orb to deal 1.3x damage. As far as tank, she has speed to go along with that with a few powerful moves. She also has heal bell to heal the statuses of my entire team, which is an invaluable ability in my experience. It seems that SPERKLEBIRD is a sort of jack of all trades, so she either needs to gain a focus or just be cut. Deadly Forehead, the Absol Item: Choice Band Ability: Super Luck Nature: Adamant EVs: 4HP/252Atk/252Spe - Sucker Punch - Pursuit - Superpower - Nightslash Deadly Forehead is my wall breaker. He can get in quickly, as his speed is quite high. He outspeeds many of the other wall breakers in NU. I often find myself using Superpower for a OHKO and switching out, so he's not really a sweeper. He packs quite a punch with a combination of a boosted attack, powerful moves, and a Choice Band, but he's somewhat of a glass cannon. I've been considering using him as a lead, but first his moves need a little diversifying. He has three Dark type moves and a Fighting type move. This is an area that needs some help. Don Quixote, the Exeggutor Item: Sitrus Berry Ability: Harvest Nature: Bold EVs: 252HP/172Def/84Spe - Substitute - Leech Seed - Psychic - Hidden Power Ice Don Quixote is very hard to kill. Between the Sitrus Berry/Harvest Combo and constant Substituting/Leech Seeding, he can basically live forever. His job is to take hits and stall. He goes on the offensive whenever he can, usually when he has Leech Seed set up and a strong Substitute set up. He gains me time to think for the most part. His leech seed can even be used a a pseudo healer if I switch in another Pokemon. His Hidden Power Ice also poses a threat to the troublesome Flying types that would like to take him out. He's a useful wall that can pack a punch too. Gurps, the Drifblim Item: Chesto Berry Ability: Unburden Nature: Modest EVs: 252Def/140SpA/116Spe -Calm Mind -Rest -Shadow Ball -Thunderbolt Gurps provides a much-needed Special Attacker. He is also the invaluable spin blocker. He's so important because Spikes and Toxic Spikes are a large part of my strategy. His Shadow Ball packs a large punch after a Calm Mind or two, which he can easily set up while taking a few hits. After taking a few hits, he can Rest and instantly wake up with his Chesto Berry. Not to mention that he then gets 2x Speed from Unburden. His Thunderbolt is also very useful against opposing water/flying types that aren't necessarily expecting it. In a controlled situation, he can be an excellent sweeper, getting rid of 1-3 Pokemon on his own. Current Team: Sexy, the Garbodor Item: Leftovers Ability: stench Nature: Impish EVs: 252HP/252Def/4SpD -Spikes -Toxic Spikes -Gunk Shot -Rock Blast Sexy is normally my starter. He gets out first to quickly set up as many layers of Spikes and Toxic Spikes as he can muster, and he can almost always set up 2 layers of Toxic Spikes, which is a very big help against every team. He's got the bulk to take a lot of hits while setting things up, and his Gunk Shot has been useful in a pinch. The fact that he's only weak to Psychic and Ground really helps him stay alive to set his traps. He is also my toxic spikes absorber. Sexy usually plays the role of somewhat of a throwaway pokemon once he gets his traps out, but he usually will live to return later in the battle. The Fonz, the Regirock Item: Leftovers Ability: Clear Body Nature: Careful EVs: 252HP/ 4Def/ 252SpD - Drain Punch - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Rock Slide/Stone Edge The Fonz acts as a sort of tank/defender. In the case of an opponent with a Rapid Spin user, he acts as lead. Most opponents' leads are very fast and aggressive, so The Fonz can just soak up the damage to prevent a quick loss of one of my more aggressive Pokemon. His Stealth Rock is useful against flying threats, and sets up yet another trap for me. I gave The Fonz Drain punch so he could have a decent move against the dangerous normal types in the meta as well as opposing Regirocks. He also has Earthquake as another generally heavy attack. Normally, Thunder Wave would be a potential choice over Earthquake, but as Pokemon can only have one status condition at once and they are usually poisoned upon entering from Toxic Spikes, Thunder Wave is generally useless. Don Quixote, the Exeggutor Item: Sitrus Berry Ability: Harvest Nature: Bold EVs: 248HP/172Def/88Spe - Substitute - Leech Seed - Psychic - Giga Drain Don Quixote is very hard to kill. Between the Sitrus Berry/Harvest Combo and constant Substituting/Leech Seeding, he can basically live forever. His job is to take hits and stall. He goes on the offensive whenever he can, usually when he has Leech Seed set up and a strong Substitute set up. He gains me time to think for the most part. His leech seed can even be used a a pseudo healer if I switch in another Pokemon. Giga Drain is the obvious STAB move, and gains him life at the same time. He's a useful wall that can pack a punch too. Doorknob, the Absol Item: Life Orb Ability: Super Luck Nature: Adamant EVs: 252Atk/4SpD/252Spe - Sucker Punch - Pursuit - Superpower - Nightslash Doorknob is my wall breaker. He can get in quickly, as his speed is quite high. He outspeeds many of the other wall breakers in NU. I often find myself using Superpower for a OHKO and switching out, so he's not really a sweeper. He packs quite a punch with a combination of a boosted attack, powerful moves, and Life Orb. The recoil is generally worth taking for the added benefit of the Life Orb. He is a potential lead, but only if my opponent's lead would be weak to him and I can guarantee Doorknob is faster. He excels at breaking walls and can sweep without much difficulty once he gets going. Lando, the Rotom-S Item: Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate Nature: Timid EVs: 4Def/252SpA /252Spe -Thunderbolt -Air Slash -Volt Switch -Trick Lando provides protection against Samurott, who poses a large threat to my team. His speed and SpA prowess make him a force to be reckoned with. He is an excellent wall breaker and can prevent setup Pokemon from doing their thing with his Choice Scarf/Trick combo. Thunderbolt and Air Slash provide powerful attacks, while Volt Switch can save Lando in a pinch. He is a very offensive wall breaker, the likes of which I'm glad to have on my team. Gunther, the Golurk Item: Choice Band Ability: Iron Fist Nature: Adamant EVs: 168HP/252Atk/88Spe -Earthquake -Shadow Punch -Drain Punch -Ice Punch Gunther is the ever-necessary spin blocker on this team. With Toxic Spikes and often normal Spikes set up, I need something that can keep the spikes there. That's where Gunther comes in. He also provides protection against Armaldo, who normally ravages the majority of my team. His variety of very powerful moves allows him to have a heyday on many different types of Pokemon. He also works as a wall breaker, knocking down most opposing walls with ease. I decided to put more EVs into HP and fewer into Speed, simply because he needs to live longer, and can still outrun a few things. Thus concludes my team, and many thanks to ChaoticaMortis, Nyanswag, and MMF for the help! I would still appreciate other points of view and opinions, and any advice, not only in Pokemon/moves/stats, but also in strategy. I'm very new to this and need all the help I can get. Thanks! Last edited by Jarrheadd0; Jul 18th, 2012 at 12:47:40 AM. Reason: Changed the team

Jul 17th, 2012, 7:32:15 AM	#2
ChaoticaMortis Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 519 Texas	Hi there! Welcome to Smogon! Always glad to see new players in the NU environment, especially those who can humble themselves by putting up their own teams to be rated. Alright, first things first: You need to expand on your descriptions quite a bit. While I've gotten a slight idea as to what each member of your team is supposed to be doing, it's a little difficult for me to offer much help when I don't know the full potential that each of your Pokemon bring to the table. Also, your Regirock needs attacks. Note that your RMT might also become locked by a moderator if you choose not to expand. I'd like to start the rate by pointing out a few Pokemon that can capitalize on a few common weaknesses on your team. Samurott in particular would be able to really cause you problems, as both of its common sets are able to outpace and beat many members of your team one-on-one. A huge threat that I'm noticing is also Armaldo, who also wouldn't mind going up against Absol, Exeggutor, Drifblim, or even Altaria. I'm just going to give you ways to stop those two for now. To fix your Samurott problem, there are actually quite a few things you could do. My suggestion would be to swap out your Altaria for Rotom-S (Rotom-Fan). ROTOM Item: Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate Nature: Timid EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Thunderbolt -Air Slash -Volt Switch -Trick Alright, with Rotom-S you know have access to one of the fastest sets in the tier. Not only will this allow you to beat Samurott without suffering heavy casualties, but it will also allow you to take on other powerful Pokemon like Gorebyss without breaking a sweat. Trick allows you to cripple walls or trap a Pokemon in a set-up move, and Volt Switch can help you escape from a situation in which you might have mis-predicted a switch. Moving on, to help against your Armaldo problem I suggest replacing Drifblim with Golurk. GOLURK Item: Choice Band Ability: Iron Fist Nature: Adamant EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe -Earthquake -Shadow Punch -Drain Punch -Ice Punch By switching Drifblim to Golurk you both retain the ability to spin block and reduce your weakness to Stealth Rock. Armaldo also can't do ANYTHING to Golurk, who just laughs at him all day. This is a pretty self-explanatory set: You come in on something that can't hurt you (like Armaldo), pick whatever move you think fits the situation best, and watch things die. Golurk is one of the most powerful Pokemon in the tier right now and this set plows through almost anything. This ridiculous amount of power also provides you with another wall-breaking Pokemon (and if I might add, one that is more reliable than Absol). So now that that's over, I'd like to thank you for giving this a read, encourage you to keep playing, and tell you to have fun battling! (also, if you do switch to Golurk, you might want to swap out Absol for Skuntank, who performs a similar role to Absol while being bulkier and able to absorb Toxic Spikes) EDIT: Lol how the fuck did I forget Garbodor absorbed T-Spikes. Last edited by ChaoticaMortis; Jul 17th, 2012 at 10:50:15 AM.

Jul 17th, 2012, 1:58:40 PM	#4
MMF Give me the strength to part this sea Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 534 PM/VM me for an NU rate! Also part of NU QC VM me for a check!	Hey there! Welcome to Smogon and the NU community! I saw a few things that I think need to be fixed so lets get into it shall we? Firstly your Regirock has no moves and an inefficient EV spread as maxing both Special Defense and Defense is generally worse than maxing your HP and then putting the rest of the EVs into one defensive stat. I think you should use 248 HP / 252 Def / 10 SpDef with a moveset of Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Drain Punch / Rock Slide . Stealth Rock gives you a mini check to things like Swellow and Braviary while Thunder Wave is great in this offensive meta as many things hate being paralyzed such as Cinccino. Drain Punch is a good option to regain health as Regirock with generally take a lot of residual damage over the course of the match and Rock Slide is its STAB move and hits a lot of things neutrally. Next Altaria really isn't doing anything for you at all. It seems like its trying to do too many things at once which decreases its effectiveness. Chaotica is spot on with his suggestion of Rotom-S which does make Samurott easier to handle and also checks +2 Gorebyss which currently runs through your team like butter. And Rotom-S is an all around solid revenge killer and is pretty bulky as well. Golurk is also a pretty good suggestion as well although I don't think you need Max Speed as Golurk has some decent bulk that should be taken advantage of. I think you should use 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe. This lets Golurk outspeed 4 Spe Alomomola and 2hko it with hazards up and also gives Golurk some good bulk. The next thing is pretty small but I recommend using Giga Drain over HP Ice on Exeggutor as HP Ice only really hits Altaria as Psychic hits everything else harder and Giga Drain gives you another STAB move and another way to recover HP. And lastly CB Absol is pretty much outclassed by LO 4Atks Absol right now. You can keep the same set just with a Life Orb over Choice Band. Thats all I can think of at the moment but I hope I helped and good luck! Here's the sets: ... Rotom-S @ Choice Scarf Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Volt Switch - Hidden Power [Ice] - Air Slash - Trick Regirock @ Leftovers Trait: Clear Body EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Stealth Rock - Thunder Wave - Drain Punch - Rock Slide Golurk @ Choice Band Trait: Iron Fist EVs: 170 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Shadow Punch - Ice Punch - Drain Punch Exeggutor (F) @ Sitrus Berry Trait: Harvest EVs: 248 HP / 172 Def / 88 Spd Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Substitute - Leech Seed - Giga Drain - Psychic Absol (F) @ Life Orb Trait: Super Luck EVs: 252 Atk / 6 SDef / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Sucker Punch - Night Slash - Superpower - Pursuit

Jul 17th, 2012, 10:43:01 AM	#3
Nyanswag Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 24 Norway	He already has a Toxic Spike absorber but I agree with your other ideas Chaotica. First off, change your Absol to an Lum Berry Swords Dance set with Psycho Cut instead off Night Slash. @ Lum Berry Trait: Super Luck EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk) - Superpower - Sucker Punch - Psycho Cut - Swords Dance This set will give you a huge advantage vs Amoonguss as you can just SD in its face and OHKO with Psycho Cut, also your Superpower wont give you minus in attack before using it 3 times after SD. Sucker Punch its obvious as you can dent huge damage to everything that doesnt resist it.

Jul 17th, 2012, 2:54:43 PM	#5
Jarrheadd0 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 3	Okay, I've taken most of the advice, deciding between conflicting opinions based on my own personal opinion. I really appreciate all the help, and I'll post the updated list ASAP.

Jul 17th, 2012, 9:24:43 PM	#6
WhiteDMist If happy ever after did exist Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 513 I'm at a payphone!	Welcome to Smogon! You already had some of our better players give you advice, and you have changed your team accordingly. I saw your original team, and while it was interesting, it wasn't efficient with its EV spread and movesets (the standard sets tend to be standard for a reason after all). Now that you've adjusted your team, I'll give you some more input. First, is that Hidden Power Grass I see on Regirock, or was that a typo/accident? If it is meant to be there, remove it! Not only does Regirock have a base 50 SpAtk, it is uninvested meaning it won't even 2HKO a Luvdisc (I'm not even kidding!). I'm assuming that you meant either Earthquake or Thunder Wave of course! ;) Ice attacks is the Achilles Heel of your team, since you don't resist it at all. That makes specially offensive Water-types a huge threat, with Gorebyss, Samurott, and Rain sweepers being at the front of the line. While Rain teams are rare still, people do use certain sweepers on their own, and Gorebyss is a threat no matter what. Special Samurott is also becoming more common nowadays since physical variants have so much trouble with Regenerator cores. The best I can advise you without drastically changing your team lineup anymore than it already has is to keep Rotom-S alive and give Regirock a Specially Defensive EV spread. Odd as it may seem, Regirock doesn't need max Def since the physical threats that it can come in on can't scratch it anyways, and the ones that can will still break through it (like Banded Sawk and Golurk). By investing in its Special Defense, Regirock can usually survive any super effective special or physical hit and either set up, status, or attack. Here's the set: Regirock @ Leftovers Ability: Clear Body Nature: Careful EVs: 252HP/ 4Def/ 252SpD - Drain Punch - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Rock Slide/Stone Edge Hope I helped! :)

Jul 18th, 2012, 12:44:08 AM	#7
Jarrheadd0 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 3	Thanks a lot for your help, WhiteDMist! And yeah...it was a...typo haha. I'll replace that with Earthquake right away. I also did notice very quickly my weakness to Ice type attacks. I'll change Regirock to the set you suggested, but he's still very weak to Water attacks. If you had any major changes to suggest, I wouldn't be against hearing them as well. But thanks for the help you've given!