Hippowdon (Skeleton)

CBManBearPig · Jul 20th, 2012, 7:29:54 AM

I'll try to have the skeleton completed by Monday

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/450.shtml

[Overview]

Hasn't changed much, but still an excellent physical wall
Sand Stream, competition with Tyranitar
Keldeo and Tornadus-T are a huge pain
Rain more popular
Needs team support to function at its best
Sets up sand so Stoutland / Landorus can sweep
Only weather starter with reliable recovery
Underestimate at your own peril

[SET]
name: Physical Wall
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Ice Fang / Roar
move 4: Slack Off
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 244 Def / 12 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

Outstanding physical wall
SR - Entry hazard, allows Landorus and friends to sweep easier
EQ - Powerful STAB which hits hard even without investment
Ice Fang deals damage to Gliscor, Salamence, and Landorus, but Roar can shuffle the opponents team around and gain SR damage
Slack Off is reliable recovery which greatly aids Hippowdon as a wall
Leftovers allow Hippo to recovery HP steadily each turn
more soon

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

EVs prevent help fend off Landorus
Blissey absorbs special attacks fired at the hippo
Amoonguss counters Keldeo
Landorus or Stoutland sweep with sand
Mamoswine checks Therians
Rapid Spin support appreciated (Starmie, Sandslash, etc)

[Other Options]

[Checks and Counters]

MikeDecIsHere · Jul 20th, 2012, 11:02:27 AM

Can you explain exactly what those 12 EVs do in Special Defense?

Also, I would possibly make a Specially Defensive set, or at least put it in OO

Electrolyte · Jul 20th, 2012, 12:42:52 PM

Make Toxic a slash, or at least an AC mention. Hippowdon is one of the best Toxic stallers out there.
Also put the LO Tank set in there; in sandstorm it hits like a truck.

Omicron · Jul 20th, 2012, 1:16:54 PM

Obviously Hidden Power Fire needs to be standard on all Hippo sets

... Jk

But in all seriousness, does Hippowdon really need a revamp? It didn't get anything new other than Whirlwind now being legal with Stealth Rock, and it really only needs mentions of new bw2 threats, all of which can be easily changed through the SCMS. A full revamp is unnecessary for a Pokemon that has hardly changed, not to mention it was one of the more recent analyses uploaded.

Nachos · Jul 20th, 2012, 1:27:36 PM

Does this even need a revamp? The one onsite is good enough.

bugmaniacbob · Jul 20th, 2012, 1:42:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat yee's QC thread

Hippowdon

-"Physical wall" and "Mixed wall" need to be made into one set, both EV spreads talked about under the current "Physical set". The Life Orb Tank I've mostly heard good things about and WeepinbellTamer likes it. Ginganinja also told me all about the good things it does.

OU Worthy: Yes
Worth a revamp: No

I was under the impression that it was QC's decision that Hippowdon would not be receiving an update. Certainly it was never listed as eligible for reservation in the reservations thread. Has this changed at all?

**Pocket** · Jul 20th, 2012, 4:35:14 PM

QC Rejected

**Seven Deadly Sins** · Jul 20th, 2012, 4:40:31 PM

No sense in allowing this to continue.

Jul 20th, 2012, 7:29:54 AM	#1
CBManBearPig Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 46	Hippowdon (Skeleton) I'll try to have the skeleton completed by Monday http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/450.shtml [Overview] Hasn't changed much, but still an excellent physical wall Sand Stream, competition with Tyranitar Keldeo and Tornadus-T are a huge pain Rain more popular Needs team support to function at its best Sets up sand so Stoutland / Landorus can sweep Only weather starter with reliable recovery Underestimate at your own peril [SET] name: Physical Wall move 1: Stealth Rock move 2: Earthquake move 3: Ice Fang / Roar move 4: Slack Off item: Leftovers nature: Impish evs: 252 HP / 244 Def / 12 SpD [SET COMMENTS] Outstanding physical wall SR - Entry hazard, allows Landorus and friends to sweep easier EQ - Powerful STAB which hits hard even without investment Ice Fang deals damage to Gliscor, Salamence, and Landorus, but Roar can shuffle the opponents team around and gain SR damage Slack Off is reliable recovery which greatly aids Hippowdon as a wall Leftovers allow Hippo to recovery HP steadily each turn more soon [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] EVs prevent help fend off Landorus Blissey absorbs special attacks fired at the hippo Amoonguss counters Keldeo Landorus or Stoutland sweep with sand Mamoswine checks Therians Rapid Spin support appreciated (Starmie, Sandslash, etc) [Other Options] [Checks and Counters] Last edited by CBManBearPig; Jul 20th, 2012 at 7:45:46 AM.

Jul 20th, 2012, 11:02:27 AM	#2
MikeDecIsHere Laying the Groundwork for the Pound Work Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,835 Staten Island Mentor	Can you explain exactly what those 12 EVs do in Special Defense? Also, I would possibly make a Specially Defensive set, or at least put it in OO __________________

Jul 20th, 2012, 12:42:52 PM	#3
Electrolyte Cause you keep me coming back for more Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,048 And I feel a little better than I did before Mentor	Make Toxic a slash, or at least an AC mention. Hippowdon is one of the best Toxic stallers out there. Also put the LO Tank set in there; in sandstorm it hits like a truck. __________________ Stuff (Click!): l l l l l l l l l l VM me for an OU / LC team rate! MURKBRO MAFIA

Jul 20th, 2012, 1:16:54 PM	#4
Omicron Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,041 Seattle, WA	Obviously Hidden Power Fire needs to be standard on all Hippo sets ... Jk But in all seriousness, does Hippowdon really need a revamp? It didn't get anything new other than Whirlwind now being legal with Stealth Rock, and it really only needs mentions of new bw2 threats, all of which can be easily changed through the SCMS. A full revamp is unnecessary for a Pokemon that has hardly changed, not to mention it was one of the more recent analyses uploaded. __________________

Jul 20th, 2012, 1:27:36 PM	#5
Nachos You Only Stack Once Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,347	Does this even need a revamp? The one onsite is good enough. __________________ (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)

Jul 20th, 2012, 4:35:14 PM	#7
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,175 Bergenfield	*QC Rejected* __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Jul 20th, 2012, 4:40:31 PM	#8
Seven Deadly Sins :D Moderator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,175	No sense in allowing this to continue. __________________