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Sewa · Aug 19th, 2012, 6:33:53 AM

I have not the log, but during a match I used Ice Beam with scarftoed against enemymon.
Opponent switched out to 1hp Aerodactyl that died for rocks. Ice beam failed and then Politoed should be able to change moves, as Ice Beam had no target.
But it didn't: it was locked in Ice Beam.

phoopes · Aug 19th, 2012, 10:17:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sewa

I have not the log, but during a match I used Ice Beam with scarftoed against enemymon.
Opponent switched out to 1hp Aerodactyl that died for rocks. Ice beam failed and then Politoed should be able to change moves, as Ice Beam had no target.
But it didn't: it was locked in Ice Beam.

Were you using Choice Scarf or Choice Specs?

Sewa · Aug 19th, 2012, 10:46:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat phoopes

Were you using Choice Scarf or Choice Specs?

Quote:

I have not the log, but during a match I used Ice Beam with scarftoed against enemymon.

Relados · Aug 19th, 2012, 11:28:55 AM

I could be wrong, but I believe you are still locked into it even if the target is dead. The move doesn't fail, you just don't have a target (hence is says "But there was no target..." rather than it failed).

Sewa · Aug 19th, 2012, 11:33:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Relados

I could be wrong, but I believe you are still locked into it even if the target is dead. The move doesn't fail, you just don't have a target (hence is says "But there was no target..." rather than it failed).

Exactly: when it fails (accuracy, fly/bounce/dig, protect, etc..) you're locked in it. But when you have no target because enemy died before the attack, you should be able to choose the move.

phoopes · Aug 19th, 2012, 12:50:47 PM

Yeah, sorry, I'm an idiot.

Relados · Aug 19th, 2012, 1:39:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sewa

Exactly: when it fails (accuracy, fly/bounce/dig, protect, etc..) you're locked in it. But when you have no target because enemy died before the attack, you should be able to choose the move.

No, you shouldn't. That's what I've been saying. You used the move, it missed, and now you're locked into the move.

poccil · Aug 19th, 2012, 1:44:25 PM

Sewa:

Actually, that is incorrect. In generation 5, an attack that can't be used because it has no target is generally treated as having failed: generation 5 doesn't use the phrase "But there was no target..." as in generation 4, but merely "But it failed!" Therefore, since the attack failed (and no effect prevented it from being used), the holder of the choice item is forced to choose that move in the next turn.

Sewa · Aug 19th, 2012, 2:57:15 PM

Well, so one of the simulators is wrong:

...

Blurpleberry · Aug 19th, 2012, 3:09:07 PM

A Porygon 2 traced and intimidated my Gyrados when my ability was Moxie.
Has this happened to anyone else?

Woodchuck · Aug 19th, 2012, 3:52:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sewa

Well, so one of the simulators is wrong:

...

Pokemon Online is wrong.

Sewa · Aug 19th, 2012, 5:17:23 PM

Yeah, you're right, I tried it on DS. I apologize >.<

Deoxys 386 · Aug 19th, 2012, 11:31:58 PM

I have a bug to report. When a Zoroark endures what would be a OHKO with a Focus Sash, its Illusion does not wear off. And throughout the battle, Zoroark will appear in the player's remaining Pokemon section as the Pokemon it was disguised as, and the Pokemon it was disguised as will appear as Zoroark.

CarlMcQ · Aug 20th, 2012, 2:05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Blurpleberry

A Porygon 2 traced and intimidated my Gyrados when my ability was Moxie.
Has this happened to anyone else?

Not that specifically, but for some reason my Trace Porygon2 just got sent in on a Download Porygon-Z and raised it's Attack with Download, Traced Download, and then raised it's Attack again. The two issues could be related.

EDIT: After Ctrl+F-ing Trace throughout the rest of the thread, I think we can all agree that Trace it ALL fucked up.

***Zarel**** · Aug 20th, 2012, 2:34:07 AM

I thought I fixed Trace. When did it get un-fixed? :S

ForeverPerfectXI · Aug 20th, 2012, 2:59:16 AM

When Assist calls a multi-hit move like Outrage it should lock the user into that move as usual and result in potential confusion as usual (at least this is how it works in Platinum), currently it does neither of these things. It creates a small (although hardly significant) problem in Balanced Hackmons.

...and I should have put this in bugs :/

***Zarel**** · Aug 20th, 2012, 3:23:22 AM

It is fortunate, of course, that we have thread tools to solve that problem for us.

Thanks!

The Captain. · Aug 20th, 2012, 6:37:51 AM

Not sure if its a known bug but endeavour doesn't seem to work with scrappy the ghost type remained unaffected by endeavour. Also endeavour failed to break through a sub.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Appendix:F.E.A.R. : proof it hits ghost types
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...stitute#Effect : fails to mention substitute causing endeavour to fail

Charon · Aug 20th, 2012, 9:57:48 AM

I pick a move, then cancel, manage to choose another...

but then it uses the first one, and the second one in the following round right away without giving me a choice.

Happened a few times till now.

Its obviously lag related, but maybe it can still be prevented somehow? No idea

**Marty D** · Aug 20th, 2012, 11:01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat CarlMcQ

Not that specifically, but for some reason my Trace Porygon2 just got sent in on a Download Porygon-Z and raised it's Attack with Download, Traced Download, and then raised it's Attack again. The two issues could be related.

I couldn't replicate this. Sending in Trace Porygon2 on Download Porygon-Z gives Porygon2 one Attack boost and that's it; the messages are out of order but the Ability seems to work fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat RandallFyflepipes

Not sure if its a known bug but endeavour doesn't seem to work with scrappy the ghost type remained unaffected by endeavour. Also endeavour failed to break through a sub.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Appendix:F.E.A.R. : proof it hits ghost types
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...stitute#Effect : fails to mention substitute causing endeavour to fail

Scrappy Endeavor does work on Ghost-types. There are two possibilities here:

1. You weren't using Scrappy.
2. Your current HP was greater than or equal to the current HP of whatever Ghost-type it was. Endeavor only works if your current HP is less than the target's.

Also, don't believe everything you read on Bulbapedia, and please don't use it as a source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat OP

Rules
Before reporting a bug,

...look up the relevant moves/abilities/items on Veekun and the first post of the Smogon Research thread. Don't look on Serebii, Bulbapedia, or Smogon's own dex, they are too unreliable.

PurpleCordial · Aug 20th, 2012, 11:37:42 AM

Don't know if this was already mentioned but can't be bothered going through 13 pages of comments but Flash Fire activates through Protect

phoopes · Aug 20th, 2012, 12:41:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Charon

I pick a move, then cancel, manage to choose another...

but then it uses the first one, and the second one in the following round right away without giving me a choice.

Happened a few times till now.

Its obviously lag related, but maybe it can still be prevented somehow? No idea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat PurpleCordial

Don't know if this was already mentioned but can't be bothered going through 13 pages of comments but Flash Fire activates through Protect

Both of these are already known about. And PurpleCordial: Ctrl + F is your friend.

***Zarel**** · Aug 20th, 2012, 2:56:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat PurpleCordial

Don't know if this was already mentioned but can't be bothered going through 13 pages of comments but Flash Fire activates through Protect

That's why the second post of this thread is a list of known bugs, and yes, that one's on there. -_-

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...15#post4329115

I'm thinking we should enact some sort of punishment for people not even willing to read one post, i.e. the one with instructions on how to report bugs. -_-

Blue Adept · Aug 20th, 2012, 3:48:30 PM

This may or may not have been a bug, but rather user error, but the Mac Downloadable Client quit on me for whatever reason (it just closed itself as soon as a battle started for one reason or another) and it would not allow me to reconnect to the battle I had just begun. It gave me a loss on a pretty good record (8-1), which I don't care about a TON, but it is a bit annoying.

a7xswimmer · Aug 20th, 2012, 5:47:18 PM

I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I'm just incredibly unlucky (and I'm talking crazy unlucky), but every time that I or my opponent use a sleep-inducing move (spore and sleep powder are the only ones I've experienced) the sleeping pokemon has always awakened on the first turn. I don't have any screen shots since its happened multiple times (at least 5) and it never occurred to me to screen shot it.
I've never seen it where they've slept for more than 1 turn

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Aug 19th, 2012, 1:44:25 PM	#308
poccil Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 398	Sewa: Actually, that is incorrect. In generation 5, an attack that can't be used because it has no target is generally treated as having failed: generation 5 doesn't use the phrase "But there was no target..." as in generation 4, but merely "But it failed!" Therefore, since the attack failed (and no effect prevented it from being used), the holder of the choice item is forced to choose that move in the next turn. __________________ Peter O. of The Ultimate Pokemon Center (Make a donation)

Aug 19th, 2012, 2:57:15 PM	#309
Sewa Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 131	Well, so one of the simulators is wrong: ... ...

Aug 20th, 2012, 2:34:07 AM	#315
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Aug 20th, 2012, 3:23:22 AM	#317
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Aug 19th, 2012, 6:33:53 AM	#301
Sewa Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 131	I have not the log, but during a match I used Ice Beam with scarftoed against enemymon. Opponent switched out to 1hp Aerodactyl that died for rocks. Ice beam failed and then Politoed should be able to change moves, as Ice Beam had no target. But it didn't: it was locked in Ice Beam.

Aug 19th, 2012, 11:28:55 AM	#304
Relados Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 332	I could be wrong, but I believe you are still locked into it even if the target is dead. The move doesn't fail, you just don't have a target (hence is says "But there was no target..." rather than it failed).

Aug 19th, 2012, 3:09:07 PM	#310
Blurpleberry Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 11 Pismo Beach	A Porygon 2 traced and intimidated my Gyrados when my ability was Moxie. Has this happened to anyone else?

Aug 19th, 2012, 5:17:23 PM	#312
Sewa Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 131	Yeah, you're right, I tried it on DS. I apologize >.<

Aug 19th, 2012, 11:31:58 PM	#313
Deoxys 386 Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Michigan, United States	I have a bug to report. When a Zoroark endures what would be a OHKO with a Focus Sash, its Illusion does not wear off. And throughout the battle, Zoroark will appear in the player's remaining Pokemon section as the Pokemon it was disguised as, and the Pokemon it was disguised as will appear as Zoroark.

Aug 20th, 2012, 2:59:16 AM	#316
ForeverPerfectXI Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 43 California	When Assist calls a multi-hit move like Outrage it should lock the user into that move as usual and result in potential confusion as usual (at least this is how it works in Platinum), currently it does neither of these things. It creates a small (although hardly significant) problem in Balanced Hackmons. ...and I should have put this in bugs :/

Aug 20th, 2012, 6:37:51 AM	#318
The Captain. Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2 NZ	Not sure if its a known bug but endeavour doesn't seem to work with scrappy the ghost type remained unaffected by endeavour. Also endeavour failed to break through a sub. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Appendix:F.E.A.R. : proof it hits ghost types http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...stitute#Effect : fails to mention substitute causing endeavour to fail Last edited by The Captain.; Aug 20th, 2012 at 7:33:10 AM. Reason: did more testing

Aug 20th, 2012, 9:57:48 AM	#319
Charon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 67 Slovenia	I pick a move, then cancel, manage to choose another... but then it uses the first one, and the second one in the following round right away without giving me a choice. Happened a few times till now. Its obviously lag related, but maybe it can still be prevented somehow? No idea __________________ do not believe anything blindly, do your own research to see if it makes sense. rael.org my fakemon: http://saiph-charon.deviantart.com/

Aug 20th, 2012, 11:37:42 AM	#321
PurpleCordial Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3	Don't know if this was already mentioned but can't be bothered going through 13 pages of comments but Flash Fire activates through Protect

Aug 20th, 2012, 3:48:30 PM	#324
Blue Adept Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 13	This may or may not have been a bug, but rather user error, but the Mac Downloadable Client quit on me for whatever reason (it just closed itself as soon as a battle started for one reason or another) and it would not allow me to reconnect to the battle I had just begun. It gave me a loss on a pretty good record (8-1), which I don't care about a TON, but it is a bit annoying.

Aug 20th, 2012, 5:47:18 PM	#325
a7xswimmer Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2	Sleep mechanics I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I'm just incredibly unlucky (and I'm talking crazy unlucky), but every time that I or my opponent use a sleep-inducing move (spore and sleep powder are the only ones I've experienced) the sleeping pokemon has always awakened on the first turn. I don't have any screen shots since its happened multiple times (at least 5) and it never occurred to me to screen shot it. I've never seen it where they've slept for more than 1 turn __________________ If a man says something in the woods and there are no women around to hear it, is he still wrong?