Curious, No Optional Rule/Challenge Setting?

Swifty The Vagabond · Jul 29th, 2012, 9:01:32 AM

This is relating to the simulator and/or the Smogon tiers/conditions/whatever it's called.

Now this may sound like someone complaining, but, could it be possible to have an extra "tier" or "optional rules" for a battle be added?

Now I understand the metagame is harsh and everything, but if you want to make a challenge, could there be an optional setting such as "No legendaries" or "No Held Items" be thrown in, for fun or challenge testing?

It would also help those who don't completely understand how the meta works, figure everything out, without having to be set up on all day on/completely annihilated by pros.

This could also give everyone something different to spice up the different tiers as well, and possibly, further test each Pokemon out with their full capabilities, or simply have fun with also not having to copy other people's teams to be competitive enough

If this seems doable or acceptable, here's a few optional rules I'd like to suggest.

No Legendaries
No Held Items
No Entry Hazards
No Weather Effects

***Antar**** · Jul 29th, 2012, 10:21:29 AM

We already have a few metagames, namely "PU" (NU of NU) and "Dream World UU," that can only be played as direct challenges, so this is technically feasible.

But as for your specific options, this seems like something you could work out via PM before you set up the battle (just play in Ubers, Hackmons or Glitchmons for the fewest pre-defined rules).

And we definitely won't be adding any "ladders" for any of the options you've mentioned, for fear of "diluting" the already-existing metagames. An exception might be Clear Skies, but that's unlikely, since there was literally ZERO interest in it on PO.

***Great Sage***** · Aug 2nd, 2012, 9:10:25 PM

"No legendaries" is completely worthless; many legendary Pokemon, like Articuno and Entei, are terrible choices competitively, whereas non-legendary Pokemon like Skarmory and Dragonite can be very useful. The designation "legendary" has no competitive significance whatsoever.

Your other suggestions aren't as obviously naive, but won't happen either.

Jul 29th, 2012, 9:01:32 AM	#1
Swifty The Vagabond Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4 Sydney, Australia	Curious, No Optional Rule/Challenge Setting? This is relating to the simulator and/or the Smogon tiers/conditions/whatever it's called. Now this may sound like someone complaining, but, could it be possible to have an extra "tier" or "optional rules" for a battle be added? Now I understand the metagame is harsh and everything, but if you want to make a challenge, could there be an optional setting such as "No legendaries" or "No Held Items" be thrown in, for fun or challenge testing? It would also help those who don't completely understand how the meta works, figure everything out, without having to be set up on all day on/completely annihilated by pros. This could also give everyone something different to spice up the different tiers as well, and possibly, further test each Pokemon out with their full capabilities, or simply have fun with also not having to copy other people's teams to be competitive enough If this seems doable or acceptable, here's a few optional rules I'd like to suggest. No Legendaries No Held Items No Entry Hazards No Weather Effects __________________ 12/June/2012: - Registered on the forum and immediately got lost 12/July/2012: - Got some direction on forming a team for destruction 14/July/2012/: - Started winning at the opposite end 15/July/2012: - Winning like Epic Sax Guy

Jul 29th, 2012, 10:21:29 AM	#2
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,051 DC Metro Area	We already have a few metagames, namely "PU" (NU of NU) and "Dream World UU," that can only be played as direct challenges, so this is technically feasible. But as for your specific options, this seems like something you could work out via PM before you set up the battle (just play in Ubers, Hackmons or Glitchmons for the fewest pre-defined rules). And we definitely won't be adding any "ladders" for any of the options you've mentioned, for fear of "diluting" the already-existing metagames. An exception might be Clear Skies, but that's unlikely, since there was literally ZERO interest in it on PO. __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) Black FC: 4040 5386 0128 / White 2 FC: 4771 3664 7215 My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog

Aug 2nd, 2012, 9:10:25 PM	#3
*Great Sage* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,872 Boston, MA Mentor	"No legendaries" is completely worthless; many legendary Pokemon, like Articuno and Entei, are terrible choices competitively, whereas non-legendary Pokemon like Skarmory and Dragonite can be very useful. The designation "legendary" has no competitive significance whatsoever. Your other suggestions aren't as obviously naive, but won't happen either.