(Quality Control) Stoutland (QC 2/3)

[Raseri]

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[Overview]

• bad normal type that struggles to compete with all the better ones (mainly Kanga)
• has a bunch of cool abilities but there is always something that can do it better
• Bulky normal with intimidate? Granbull has a better support movepool(though stoutland wins in sheer bulk)
• no permanent sand is what makes it bad, it's much better in OU lol

[SET]
name: Bulky Attacker
move 1: Return
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Superpower
move 4: Thunder Wave / Toxic
item: Leftovers
ability: Intimidate
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD


[SET COMMENTS]

• best set to separate it from Kanga as much as possible
• it is still bad but this is the best it can do
• return is the STAB move (no double edge :<), hits most things decently hard, not that strong though
• crunch hits Ghosts like Drifblim, Golurk, and Haunter, while also hitting psychics like Gardy and Mushy
• superpower hits Rocks and Steels (GOlem, Probopass, Piloswine) but thyre all so bulky its not like youll do that much
• t wave if youre using stoutland on an offensive team, toxic if using stoutland on a defensive team

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

• Adamant is more strong!
• Scrappy can be used but its just a worse Kanga then
• Roar can be used over status moves on a Spikes-stacking team
• Stoutland is bulkier than Granbull so it makes great use of intimidate
• Scrappy = lesser Kanga. It's still a good ability but there's no reason to use it over Kanga
• can be used on a Normal spam team with mons like Kanga, Tauros, Zangoose
• Pairs well with Gardy and Mushy to take on Gurdurr and Sawk, who do a number to Stoutland
• strong special attackers to hit the bulky Rock and Grounds that take this set on decently well, so Samurott, Ludicolo, Mantine.
• No Toxic = Alomomola bait. SO a grass-type like Exeggutor demolishes it

[Other Options]

• manual sandstorm + sand rush
• elemental fangs
• Pursuit
• rest talk roar
• wild charge
• Work Up
• parashuffler set could work, roar + twave can be annoying

[Checks and Counters]

• Gurdurr #1
• Musharna
• anything with recovery will probably do well
• Sawk doesnt like twave but owns it other wise
• strong special attackers like Samurott and Exeggutor
• Braviary powers up when hit by Intimidate
• anything physically defensive (Tangela, Shelgon, Metang, alomomola)

I can expand on this if needed. But Stoutland is bad and I just want to make that clear

[Swamp-Rocket]

I don't think Stoutland is "bad" as much as "outclassed." I would put the analysis more in that context personally, because if Kangaskhan didn't exist (or was RU) I think it would actually be a pretty good Pokemon in NU.

Speaking of which I hardly think that Scrappy even needs to be mentioned at all and is more OO material if anything, because from there it is completely outclassed by Kangaskhan aside from having Thunder Wave (which is not much to say at all) and 5 more points in Attack. With Scrappy, Crunch is also pretty much useless because of STAB Return hitting pretty much just as hard and the two sets would function differently. Stoutland functions sort of like a Pokemon that can take hits and hit back sort of well, and while Granbull is almost identical with Heal Bell and a higher Attack, it can take hits better, especially on the Special Side, where Granbull is somewhat vulnerable, although it can't even do that very well because everything is so strong. Certainly better than Scrappy at the very least, because at least in the raw stats department it has an at least noticeable advantage. Basically, I think Intimidate should be the only option for the ability.

But yeah I agree Stoutland is pretty bad in NU though due to the circumstances. I legit had to use this thing on a team with only Normal-types to make it seem like it actually could do something :(

[ScraftyIsTheBest]

Yeah, Stoutland suffers from being a "Jack of all Trades, Master of None" kind of Normal-type, so I wouldn't say it's absolutely "bad" as in "This thing is absolutely ineffective and will not do very well at all", rather "This thing is outclassed by much better Pokemon".

I'm going to have to agree Scrappy is OO at best, because Crunch has practically zero use since Golurk and Misdreavus are being smacked by Return if Scrappy is chosen. Intimidate allows you to at least modestly check Golurk and Zangoose.

I think a mention of the ParaShuffler set with T-Wave, Roar, Return, and something should be made. With Spikes support from the likes of Garbodor (who checks Sawk for Stouland pretty well), Stoutland can shuffle up the team decently and take hits decently. At the very least, it deserves to be OO imo.

Stoutland is sadly a case of a depressingly outclassed Pokemon. Don't speak of it as absolutely terrible, but do acknowledge it's hardly worth using and that 99% of the time, there's a better Pokemon to use.

[Sweet Jesus]

Seems good,

Add parashuffler in other options, (or in ac though EV's are different)

And yeah, I guess you could use the term outclassed more than bad

QC approved 1/3

[Raseri]

kk updated with changes.

I moved Scrappy to AC, changed some mentions of bad to outclassed, added parashuffler to OO

[FLCL]

idk if im even qualified to do this anymore but it looks good to me


QC Approved 2/3

[tennisace]

in the ac of the set, you could mention a spread of 252 hp / 184 atk / 72 spe, adamant. 2hkos golurk with crunch 100% of the time, outspeeds a bunch of random stuff like the fraxure set on-site.