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**R Inanimate** · Oct 6th, 2012, 2:57:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat bluejay8295

Any suggestions, of pokemon that can smash rain teams? Like Kingdra and Politoad?

Requoting from a similar question just a bit back:

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Originally Posted by Fat TheMantyke

Generally versus Rain teams I like to carry at least two rain resistant Pokemon that can hit Rain for STAB neutral or super-effective damage. Good anti rain Pokemon I've used in the past include Rotom-W, Latios, Tyranitar, Abomasnow, Gastrodon, Ludicolo, Virizion, and especially Ferrothorn.

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

I'm using a rain team myself, and the two things that give me the most trouble, other than other rain teams, are Ferrothorn and Rotom-W (and Lati@s to a lesser extent if my Scizor goes down). You can't just count on one Pokémon to counter an entire team, though, especially rain with their boosted attacks, so you need to make sure the rest of your team still stands a chance if your check goes down. For instance, make sure you don't have too many Water weaknesses.

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Originally Posted by Fat R Inanimate

If they are heavily dependant on using rain, Pokemon like Cresselia and Thundurus can be real problems for them, due to their ability to easily throw around Thunder Waves to stop Swift Swim. Cresselia can also perform Trick Room, removing the speed advantage of Swift Swim.

Manual Weather changers, in the form of Cresselia (once again), Sableye, and Whimsicott that use Sunny Day can also throw a wrench in things.

Otherwise, the aforementioned Pokemon in the posts before me are all pretty effective at dealing with the rain, though many of them are quite heavily Bug weak.

Oh right, Togekiss and Amoonguss are two other Pokemon can give rain teams some issues.

Szymoninho · Oct 6th, 2012, 3:34:02 PM

Does anyone know any good defensive EV spreads for Jellicent? I want it to be my rain counter and TR reverter. I don't need any investment neither in Special Attack nor in Speed but I'll appreciate any suggestions :). Its moves:
- Scald
- Shadow Ball
- Trick Room
- Protect

CroutonKing52 · Oct 6th, 2012, 4:15:10 PM

Are the rules the same as last year's?

Either way, what are some of the dominant threats and where can I go to see what people are talking about for VGC?

M. Rock · Oct 6th, 2012, 5:46:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

Not sure if this is the place to ask this or not, but does anyone know where I can find old threads from the Journey Across America?

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11086

This is the only one that I know of. It's a really good read. David Stone plans a team with Mewtwo/Smeargle/Jynx/i think Rayquaza was last?

As for whoever needs help with rain, a Modest Specs Rotom-W can OHKO Kingdra with Thunderbolt, and any non-Wacan Berry Politoed suffers a similar fate.

TheAllyKat · Oct 6th, 2012, 8:41:03 PM

Although most of my experience is in Single Battles, I tend to use Skill Swap to counter use of Weather-based Abilities. It is a nice approach to help balance things out.

For all of you attending the Fall Regionals, I wish you luck its just I am personally ignoring the format until the announcement of next year's game play. With the Dream World and the Dream Radar, a lot of emphasis is being placed on acquiring Pokémon with Dream Abilities. Its doubtful that 2013 will not be played on BW2 with a lot of Dream Abilities thus changing the metagame like crazy.

Wildfire · Oct 6th, 2012, 11:00:46 PM

Is it possible to use sheer force landorus in the fall regionals?

**Solace*** · Oct 6th, 2012, 11:18:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wildfire

Is it possible to use sheer force landorus in the fall regionals?

That's a BW2 ability right? If so, then it can't be used.

Misdreavus · Oct 7th, 2012, 5:45:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat M. Rock

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11086

This is the only one that I know of. It's a really good read. David Stone plans a team with Mewtwo/Smeargle/Jynx/i think Rayquaza was last?

Thanks. I've actually read that article... very creative and effective strategy!

I was hoping to find threads/posts about specific stops on the tour (not just warstories or info on winners), including the finals, but I'm not sure if whatever subforum they'd be in would even go back that far. If anyone has what I'm looking for or knows where I can find it, please let me know!

Burgba · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:33:21 PM

When doing the math, if you use a pokemon with solar power,choice specs and max special attack, do you take the the max special attack, multiply it by 1.5 then take that result and multiply it again by 1.5.(This results in 2.25 times the max special attack). Or does it just become a free nasty plot, essentially raising your special attack by 2 stages.

**R Inanimate** · Oct 7th, 2012, 2:02:57 PM

2.25x

bluejay8295 · Oct 7th, 2012, 5:09:27 PM

Will the VGC in January and April shift from BW to BW2?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 7th, 2012, 5:38:36 PM

We don't know exactly what the rules will be, but it will almost certainly be played on BW2 carts.

bluejay8295 · Oct 8th, 2012, 6:10:24 PM

When you get VGC mons from Pokecheck utilizing pkm.files, is it bad if the pokemon isnt allowed in wifi random matchup?

Lucifers Pride · Oct 8th, 2012, 6:19:38 PM

Does weather effects like Sand and Hail round up or down when dealing damage? Or will it do say 12 one turn and then 13 the next? What about Leftovers or Sitrus Berry? Thanks.

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 8th, 2012, 6:49:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat bluejay8295

When you get VGC mons from Pokecheck utilizing pkm.files, is it bad if the pokemon isnt allowed in wifi random matchup?

If you can't use it in RM, you won't be able to use it in VGC either.

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Originally Posted by Fat Lucifers Pride

Does weather effects like Sand and Hail round up or down when dealing damage? Or will it do say 12 one turn and then 13 the next? What about Leftovers or Sitrus Berry? Thanks.

Most things round down.

Lucifers Pride · Oct 8th, 2012, 6:53:06 PM

So if Sand would do 11.975 it would do 11? Or would it follow standard rounding rules?

**R Inanimate** · Oct 8th, 2012, 6:58:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Lucifers Pride

So if Sand would do 11.975 it would do 11? Or would it follow standard rounding rules?

Well, by the game's rounding standards, you'd round down the damage taken by Sandstorm/Hail, so it will be 11.

bluejay8295 · Oct 8th, 2012, 7:00:02 PM

I tried the pokemon available on the "Where to get you VGC pokemon from" thread, and it still says that. Is pokecheck a bad way to get VGC pokemon then?

Lucifers Pride · Oct 8th, 2012, 7:01:55 PM

Awesome, thanks guys.

Firestorm · Oct 8th, 2012, 7:22:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat bluejay8295

Will the VGC in January and April shift from BW to BW2?

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

We don't know exactly what the rules will be, but it will almost certainly be played on BW2 carts.

There is already confirmation that Janauary and April regionals will be exclusively played on BW2. This is the last regional you can use BW on.

maltmaker · Oct 8th, 2012, 10:14:13 PM

does anyone know if you catch a pokemon in bw2 weather it will be allowed in fall regionals? say I don't have gen 4 games and wanted to get a latios, could i rng it in black 2 then send it over to black 1 and compete? or same thing with other pokemon? like cresselia or heatran?

LudiImpact · Oct 8th, 2012, 10:56:24 PM

If I were you,I would play it safe and not. You can always just ask one of the friendly RNGers if they can RNG those Pokemon for you. Good Luck at Regionals!

The Knights of Wario Land · Oct 9th, 2012, 8:29:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat bluejay8295

I tried the pokemon available on the "Where to get you VGC pokemon from" thread, and it still says that. Is pokecheck a bad way to get VGC pokemon then?

Pokecheck is a good way, yes, but you have to download the Pokemon's file, then upload it to PokeGTS so it can be legal for usage. Be careful as to what Pokemon you're receiving, however; make sure its IVs, EVs, and moves are legal, etc.

PichuGirl · Oct 9th, 2012, 10:40:52 AM

So approximately how many battles do you have to have during a regional event? (This Winter will be my first time!) Also, I'm a girl- are there many girls that play competitively?

hoult66 · Oct 9th, 2012, 11:28:01 AM

You typically play around 8-10 I think.

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Burgba Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 34 1227 Boyardee Dr.	When doing the math, if you use a pokemon with solar power,choice specs and max special attack, do you take the the max special attack, multiply it by 1.5 then take that result and multiply it again by 1.5.(This results in 2.25 times the max special attack). Or does it just become a free nasty plot, essentially raising your special attack by 2 stages. __________________ __________________ Bulbasaur is the Bomb Digity "Take enough roids and you can do anything."-Superhero Movie [URL="http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4292506"http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4292506[/URL]- First and only RMT

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bluejay8295 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 16 New York City	Will the VGC in January and April shift from BW to BW2? Last edited by bluejay8295; Oct 7th, 2012 at 7:17:22 PM.

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CroutonKing52 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2	Are the rules the same as last year's? Either way, what are some of the dominant threats and where can I go to see what people are talking about for VGC?

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TheAllyKat Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 62	Although most of my experience is in Single Battles, I tend to use Skill Swap to counter use of Weather-based Abilities. It is a nice approach to help balance things out. For all of you attending the Fall Regionals, I wish you luck its just I am personally ignoring the format until the announcement of next year's game play. With the Dream World and the Dream Radar, a lot of emphasis is being placed on acquiring Pokémon with Dream Abilities. Its doubtful that 2013 will not be played on BW2 with a lot of Dream Abilities thus changing the metagame like crazy.

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bluejay8295 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 16 New York City	When you get VGC mons from Pokecheck utilizing pkm.files, is it bad if the pokemon isnt allowed in wifi random matchup?

Oct 8th, 2012, 6:19:38 PM	#414
Lucifers Pride Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 62 THEY FOUND ME!	Does weather effects like Sand and Hail round up or down when dealing damage? Or will it do say 12 one turn and then 13 the next? What about Leftovers or Sitrus Berry? Thanks. __________________ No apologies, I never thought to be so. Easily deceived, Now I'll just hang my head (falling further out of place). While I walk with the dead (all the lies I can't erase), I'll just hang my head!

Oct 8th, 2012, 6:53:06 PM	#416
Lucifers Pride Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 62 THEY FOUND ME!	So if Sand would do 11.975 it would do 11? Or would it follow standard rounding rules? __________________ No apologies, I never thought to be so. Easily deceived, Now I'll just hang my head (falling further out of place). While I walk with the dead (all the lies I can't erase), I'll just hang my head!

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bluejay8295 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 16 New York City	I tried the pokemon available on the "Where to get you VGC pokemon from" thread, and it still says that. Is pokecheck a bad way to get VGC pokemon then? Last edited by bluejay8295; Oct 8th, 2012 at 7:25:51 PM.

Oct 8th, 2012, 7:01:55 PM	#419
Lucifers Pride Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 62 THEY FOUND ME!	Awesome, thanks guys. __________________ No apologies, I never thought to be so. Easily deceived, Now I'll just hang my head (falling further out of place). While I walk with the dead (all the lies I can't erase), I'll just hang my head!

Oct 8th, 2012, 10:14:13 PM	#421
maltmaker Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	pokes from bw2? does anyone know if you catch a pokemon in bw2 weather it will be allowed in fall regionals? say I don't have gen 4 games and wanted to get a latios, could i rng it in black 2 then send it over to black 1 and compete? or same thing with other pokemon? like cresselia or heatran?

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PichuGirl Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2	So approximately how many battles do you have to have during a regional event? (This Winter will be my first time!) Also, I'm a girl- are there many girls that play competitively?

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