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Zog · Aug 29th, 2012, 11:22:20 AM

Lol that's like one of the oldest doubles tricks in the book. It's been popular in Japan since doubles came out.

Usually it's Cresselia using swagger on Metagross.

Misdreavus · Aug 29th, 2012, 2:10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Magic Mewtwo

Is Swagger a Good move to use competitively? By using it on your other Pokemon in a double battle to boost their attack (They would be holding a Persim Berry to Avoid Confusion.)

And what Pokemon could be used for this Strategy?

As Zog said, Cresselia/Metagross is a very popular one. Thundurus is also a good user of Swagger, and pretty much any bulky physical sweeper can make use of this strategy, particularly if it has a priority move (like Metagross' Bullet Punch).

Fantom0 · Aug 29th, 2012, 2:25:27 PM

Conkeldurr is becoming more popular thanks to the release of BW2 in Japan, as a Swagger recipient. This is also because being afflicted by status only makes it more deadly thanks to Guts. Basically anything that can scare Tyranitar (since the best Swagger users are weak to Tyranitar).

CooltrainerAlan · Aug 29th, 2012, 5:20:02 PM

Is Pokecheck not working for anyone else? I keep trying to get on but the URL can't be found. however, sprites.pokecheck still works. any info on whats going on? I really need to check some stuff.

LudiImpact · Aug 30th, 2012, 8:48:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CooltrainerAlan

Is Pokecheck not working for anyone else? I keep trying to get on but the URL can't be found. however, sprites.pokecheck still works. any info on whats going on? I really need to check some stuff.

It's working faster than ever for me. It's probably your internet connection

**voodoo pimp** · Aug 31st, 2012, 1:10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CooltrainerAlan

Is Pokecheck not working for anyone else? I keep trying to get on but the URL can't be found. however, sprites.pokecheck still works. any info on whats going on? I really need to check some stuff.

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Originally Posted by Fat LudiImpact

It's working faster than ever for me. It's probably your internet connection

It's been on and off a lately due to a bunch of maintenance and updates and stuff. If it doesn't work, just try again in a few hours.

Imitation Black · Sep 1st, 2012, 3:22:41 AM

How early will the fall regional threads be up? And would the thread be the best place to seek out carpools?

Pippy · Sep 1st, 2012, 9:02:40 AM

Quick question: what's a good EV spread for a bulky Thundurus in VGC12?

**Solace*** · Sep 1st, 2012, 11:01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Imitation Black

How early will the fall regional threads be up? And would the thread be the best place to seek out carpools?

Once we get an official confirmation on the regional locations from TPCi, the threads will be posted. And yes, the thread would probably be the best place to find that.

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Originally Posted by Fat Pippy

Quick question: what's a good EV spread for a bulky Thundurus in VGC12?

252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SDef with a Sitrus Berry is pretty standard

Misdreavus · Sep 1st, 2012, 9:28:07 PM

How many good VGC players play on the GBU?

**voodoo pimp** · Sep 1st, 2012, 10:39:30 PM

Dunno how good you consider to be good, but I use the GBU as pretty much my sole means of testing. It feels a lot more like the actual tournament than a simulator does, and you run into a much wider variety of strategies.

LeadTaco · Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:06:10 AM

I was just told that atm there is no VGC in Australia, but Smogon has its own metagame. So i was wondering if Smogons metagame is played over wifi or through a program like pokemon online?
Also what are the prizes usually like (if there is any)?

Thanks

Pippy · Sep 2nd, 2012, 8:43:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat LeadTaco

I was just told that atm there is no VGC in Australia, but Smogon has its own metagame. So i was wondering if Smogons metagame is played over wifi or through a program like pokemon online?
Also what are the prizes usually like (if there is any)?

Smogon tiers are usually played on Pokemon Showdown. You can get to it here:
http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/lobby

And the only prizes are little virtual trophies you get under your name, but that's only if you win a really big tournament.

Oh, and I recommend you go to the appropriate forum to talk about whatever tier you choose to play. We can only really help you with VGC in here.

Misdreavus · Sep 2nd, 2012, 5:45:46 PM

Aside from being mostly physical instead of special, what does Swampert bring to the table that Gastrodon doesn't? Who has more overall bulk?

**R Inanimate** · Sep 2nd, 2012, 6:39:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

Aside from being mostly physical instead of special, what does Swampert bring to the table that Gastrodon doesn't? Who has more overall bulk?

Wide Guard, for the most part.

Sprocket · Sep 2nd, 2012, 6:46:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R Inanimate

Wide Guard, for the most part.

Somewhat better bulk and attacking presence too, though Gastrodon more than makes up for it with Storm Drain.

Imitation Black · Sep 2nd, 2012, 8:40:34 PM

So, I haven't been in the Pokemon scene since the last spring regionals. Is there a list of released dream world abilities? And if possible, can anyone give me an update of any game changing abilities released in the last few months?

CooltrainerAlan · Sep 2nd, 2012, 9:06:06 PM

New Dream world abilities in Black/White 2 for Gen 5 pokemon aren't permitted this fall, but ones from the Icy Cave (that aren't exclusive to BW2) are now released. I'd search bulbapedia for the list. I do know that Contrary Shuckle is released and some others like Pickpocket Weavile. Some Pokemon now have new abilities and Move Tutor moves like Sheer Force Landorus (really powerful Earth Power) however, I think it'd be classified as BW2 exclusive. Some that could end up really good in VGC are Heat Wave/Tailwind Hydreigon and TrickScarf Chandelure.

However, this fall it is only BW1 stuff, so the meta isn't that different.

Magic Mewtwo · Sep 3rd, 2012, 3:08:13 PM

Is Contrary Shuckle any good? Who could be Partnered up with it for a Good Combo and such?

CooltrainerAlan · Sep 3rd, 2012, 3:26:22 PM

Is Trainer ID RNG in BW2 the same as in Black and White? I want to get a cool ID when BW2 comes out in english(Don't want to restart my JP copy.)

Sprocket · Sep 3rd, 2012, 3:46:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Magic Mewtwo

Is Contrary Shuckle any good? Who could be Partnered up with it for a Good Combo and such?

I've considered Contrary Shuckle, and it's hard to justify over Sturdy Shuckle. The only moves that really work well for Contrary Shuckle is Shell Smash in conjunction with Guard Split (Power Split already works stupidly well without Shell Smash). Which is great for boosting an ally's defenses to a rediculous level (Eviolite Chansey comes to mind), but it's also a 2 turn setup to pull off; not an easy thing for the slowest Pokemon in the game without Trick Room support.

Kaphotics · Sep 3rd, 2012, 4:02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CooltrainerAlan

Is Trainer ID RNG in BW2 the same as in Black and White? I want to get a cool ID when BW2 comes out in english(Don't want to restart my JP copy.)

Yes.

Wrong thread btw :)

Jegretis · Sep 4th, 2012, 10:50:57 AM

I wasn't able to come out for the VGC 2012 Regionals, but do you guys think I should go out to the 2013 Regionals? I haven't played in like 3 months, due to me having too much schoolwork, and getting ready for university. Reason I'm asking, is because I may be slightly rusty and wanted to make sure that I least do somewhat good this year, unlike VGC 2011 where I lost first round.

Sprocket · Sep 4th, 2012, 11:13:34 AM

If the VGC2013 Regionals uses the Swiss system that VGC2012 Regionals did, then it's totally worth attending. The Swiss system keeps you from being outright eliminated due to a loss, so you can stay for the entire duration of the tournament and play (unless your local regional does a top cut).

Nationals are, of course, a different story.

Saboros · Sep 4th, 2012, 12:56:12 PM

So because the rules are the same, will we be playing Swiss again as well?

Aug 29th, 2012, 11:22:20 AM	#201
Zog Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 931 i'm the kinda trainer that's built to last if you battle me i'll put ma foot in ya ass	Lol that's like one of the oldest doubles tricks in the book. It's been popular in Japan since doubles came out. Usually it's Cresselia using swagger on Metagross. __________________ World's best Brit, magical girl* and SERIAL REPROBATE.* Want to become a genius like me? Buy me a drink and we'll talk, pal. ゆっくりしていってね *YUKKURI SHITEITTE NE!!! yaranaika!!!*

Aug 29th, 2012, 2:25:27 PM	#203
Fantom0 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 379 England! WoopWoop!	Conkeldurr is becoming more popular thanks to the release of BW2 in Japan, as a Swagger recipient. This is also because being afflicted by status only makes it more deadly thanks to Guts. Basically anything that can scare Tyranitar (since the best Swagger users are weak to Tyranitar). __________________ Just waitin' for June 2nd now... --'?'-- <\|'.'\|>

Aug 29th, 2012, 5:20:02 PM	#204
CooltrainerAlan Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 41 Space Australia	Is Pokecheck not working for anyone else? I keep trying to get on but the URL can't be found. however, sprites.pokecheck still works. any info on whats going on? I really need to check some stuff. __________________ White FC: 3096-1266-5731 VGC

Sep 1st, 2012, 9:02:40 AM	#208
Pippy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 645 Lick Lick Lick	Quick question: what's a good EV spread for a bulky Thundurus in VGC12? __________________ The Pokemon Rangers A group devoted to peace and having fun!

Sep 1st, 2012, 9:28:07 PM	#210
Misdreavus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,210 Orlando, FL	How many good VGC players play on the GBU? __________________ My other Rotom is a washing machine.

Sep 1st, 2012, 3:22:41 AM	#207
Imitation Black Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 25 California	How early will the fall regional threads be up? And would the thread be the best place to seek out carpools?

Sep 1st, 2012, 10:39:30 PM	#211
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	Dunno how good you consider to be good, but I use the GBU as pretty much my sole means of testing. It feels a lot more like the actual tournament than a simulator does, and you run into a much wider variety of strategies. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:06:10 AM	#212
LeadTaco Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2	I was just told that atm there is no VGC in Australia, but Smogon has its own metagame. So i was wondering if Smogons metagame is played over wifi or through a program like pokemon online? Also what are the prizes usually like (if there is any)? Thanks

Sep 2nd, 2012, 5:45:46 PM	#214
Misdreavus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,210 Orlando, FL	Aside from being mostly physical instead of special, what does Swampert bring to the table that Gastrodon doesn't? Who has more overall bulk? __________________ My other Rotom is a washing machine.

Sep 2nd, 2012, 8:40:34 PM	#217
Imitation Black Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 25 California	So, I haven't been in the Pokemon scene since the last spring regionals. Is there a list of released dream world abilities? And if possible, can anyone give me an update of any game changing abilities released in the last few months?

Sep 2nd, 2012, 9:06:06 PM	#218
CooltrainerAlan Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 41 Space Australia	New Dream world abilities in Black/White 2 for Gen 5 pokemon aren't permitted this fall, but ones from the Icy Cave (that aren't exclusive to BW2) are now released. I'd search bulbapedia for the list. I do know that Contrary Shuckle is released and some others like Pickpocket Weavile. Some Pokemon now have new abilities and Move Tutor moves like Sheer Force Landorus (really powerful Earth Power) however, I think it'd be classified as BW2 exclusive. Some that could end up really good in VGC are Heat Wave/Tailwind Hydreigon and TrickScarf Chandelure. However, this fall it is only BW1 stuff, so the meta isn't that different. __________________ White FC: 3096-1266-5731 VGC

Sep 3rd, 2012, 3:08:13 PM	#219
Magic Mewtwo Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 21	Is Contrary Shuckle any good? Who could be Partnered up with it for a Good Combo and such? __________________ I'm Gonna Inkvade Man-Kind! `·.,¸,.·¯`·.,¸,.·`·.,¸,.·¯`·.,¸,.·`·.,¸,.·*

Sep 3rd, 2012, 3:26:22 PM	#220
CooltrainerAlan Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 41 Space Australia	Is Trainer ID RNG in BW2 the same as in Black and White? I want to get a cool ID when BW2 comes out in english(Don't want to restart my JP copy.) __________________ White FC: 3096-1266-5731 VGC

Sep 4th, 2012, 10:50:57 AM	#223
Jegretis Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 142 Vancouver, BC	I wasn't able to come out for the VGC 2012 Regionals, but do you guys think I should go out to the 2013 Regionals? I haven't played in like 3 months, due to me having too much schoolwork, and getting ready for university. Reason I'm asking, is because I may be slightly rusty and wanted to make sure that I least do somewhat good this year, unlike VGC 2011 where I lost first round. __________________ \| FC \| 4298 2307 8692 - Black Version VGC 2011 Seattle Regionals: Lost First Round

Sep 4th, 2012, 11:13:34 AM	#224
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	If the VGC2013 Regionals uses the Swiss system that VGC2012 Regionals did, then it's totally worth attending. The Swiss system keeps you from being outright eliminated due to a loss, so you can stay for the entire duration of the tournament and play (unless your local regional does a top cut). Nationals are, of course, a different story. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded) Last edited by Sprocket; Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:30:41 PM.

Sep 4th, 2012, 12:56:12 PM	#225
Saboros Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 389 Oakland,California	So because the rules are the same, will we be playing Swiss again as well? __________________ Duy: Can't wait till you get to Masters, I'll eat you up! Saboros: Well maybe I'll eat you... Duy: What the hell, that's gay... (The foe's Duy used Reversal!)