CAP 4 - Part 1 - Concept Poll 1 - Page 2

DarkSlay · Sep 12th, 2012, 5:56:44 PM

DarkSlay
capefeather
Birkal

420 · Sep 12th, 2012, 5:57:27 PM

Rediamond
Birkal
Capefeather

not a fan of the rest

DetroitLolcat · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:00:08 PM

Birkal
Pwnemon
capefeather
Scoopapa
Rediamond
FlareBlitz
DarkSlay

Birkal's Perfect Nemesis is a great idea for a concept since it's relatively easy to do, yet seems to be incredibly fun yet rewarding at the same time. We can explore every niche role of a certain Pokemon and still create something that will hopefully decentralize the metagame.

Pwnemon's Deceiver is something that seems difficult to pull off, but very rewarding if we do thanks to Team Preview. If this concept is selected, I'd imagine it'd be something like Virizion in the BW1 metagame in that it runs multiple sets with great efficiency. I'd love to see something like this selected because I have plenty of ideas in mind for it :D

Capefeather's idea is the only other one that I really like on this slate besides my top two. Capefeather's "high risk, high reward" strategy screams "glass cannon", but there are probably a million ways to engineer this Pokemon to have a significant effect on the metagame. It will probably shake up playstyles a bit, and teach us a reasonable amount about this game.

Scoopapa's concept is okay in my opinion, and it has upside in that it will let us see BW as a three-weather metagame rather than a two-weather metagame. However, other than that I don't really like it. It adds to team diversity, but it wouldn't teach us a lot as it seems to be "what if Sun/Hail was a little better". Maybe I'm being short-sighted here, but this isn't a concept I like a ton.

Rediamond's Time Capsule is a pretty quirky concept. It lets us see what the role of an old-timey Pokemon would be like in this generation, but other than that, it doesn't teach much about the current metagame. We can already see what previous-generation Pokemon do by looking at them in the DPP, RSE, GSC, or RBY generations, so it teaches us very little about BW2. Not a bad concept, but it's not one I'd like to see implemented.

FlareBlitz's concept is interesting as well. However, I don't like its premise and what it desires to accomplish. By creating a Pokemon that punishes the creation of harmful field effects and rewarding beneficial field effects, we'd just exacerbate a problem with the metagame as it is (well I see it as a problem. Others may not, but this post is my opinion so bleh!) Furthermore, since only certain field effects will benefit this Pokemon, it may make the metagame even more one-dimensional. If you like field effects having a large influence on Pokemon, then I guess this is a nice concept for you. However, I am not one of those people, so I did not vote this concept highly.

The first Utility Counter was an utter failure if you ask me, and I'd hate to see another Krilowatt (pre-revisions) made. I voted accordingly :P

Dusk209 · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:01:15 PM

Birkal
pwnemon

Really lame slate tbh... oh well.

sax king · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:03:48 PM

Rediamond
Capefeather
Birkal

Quanyails · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:13:00 PM

Rediamond
Birkal
Scoopapa

Dah, wanted to comment on the latter batch of concepts. Darn you, schedule.

uxsee · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:14:04 PM

Flareblitz
Birkal
capefeather

uwnim · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:15:51 PM

Birkal
Pwnemon
capefeather
Rediamond
DarkSlay
Scoopapa
FlareBlitz

MCBarrett · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:26:58 PM

Scoopapa
Birkal
Capefeather

General Spoon · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:28:33 PM

DarkSlay
FlareBlitz
Rediamond
capefeather
Birkal
Scoopapa
Pwnemon

***Birkal**** · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:30:45 PM

Birkal
capefeather
DarkSlay
Scoopapa
Pwnemon
FlareBlitz
Rediamond

This is a really strong slate, in my opinion. Seven incredible concepts; congrats to all of the submitters for making it this far! If we keep up this level of quality, CAP4 is guaranteed to be awesome.

Meganium Sulfate · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:33:05 PM

capefeather
Pwnemon

RavensNation · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:35:01 PM

Scoopapa
FlareBlitz
DarkSlay
Birkal
capefeather
Rediamond
Pwnemon

I love Scoopapa's concept. I'd really love to see Hail become as prominent as Rain and Sand. Of course, no weather would be just as appreciated.

Shuckler · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:43:01 PM

Flareblitz
Rediamond
Scoopapa (Lovin' the hail)
Pwnemon
Capefeather

Roserade Raider · Sep 12th, 2012, 6:50:29 PM

Birkal
Capefeather
DarkSlay

I think all of the concepts could lead to very interesting avenues of discussion, but these few were just my favorites.

BlueStar99 · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:03:46 PM

Flareblitz
scoopapa
capefeather
birkal

Axaj · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:10:43 PM

Birkal
Rediamond
capefeather
DarkSlay
Pwnemon

zyrefredric · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:11:19 PM

FlareBlitz
Scoopapa

CuteandScary · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:13:48 PM

Scoopapa
Birkal
DarkSlay

jackm · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:17:01 PM

Capefeather
DarkSlay

Blazikenrage · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:18:00 PM

capefeather
Birkal
pwnemon

Zacchaeus · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:25:03 PM

Rediamond
capefeather

The Reptile · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:42:24 PM

DarkSlay
Birkal
Pwnemon
FlareBlitz
capefeather
Scoopapa
Rediamond

Orivexes · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:43:07 PM

capefeather
birkal

GlassAbsol · Sep 12th, 2012, 7:45:28 PM

Birkal
Rediamond
Capefeather

Sep 12th, 2012, 5:56:44 PM	#26
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Sep 12th, 2012, 6:00:08 PM	#28
DetroitLolcat It's Great! To Be! A Michigan Wolverine! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,847	Birkal Pwnemon capefeather Scoopapa Rediamond FlareBlitz DarkSlay Birkal's Perfect Nemesis is a great idea for a concept since it's relatively easy to do, yet seems to be incredibly fun yet rewarding at the same time. We can explore every niche role of a certain Pokemon and still create something that will hopefully decentralize the metagame. Pwnemon's Deceiver is something that seems difficult to pull off, but very rewarding if we do thanks to Team Preview. If this concept is selected, I'd imagine it'd be something like Virizion in the BW1 metagame in that it runs multiple sets with great efficiency. I'd love to see something like this selected because I have plenty of ideas in mind for it :D Capefeather's idea is the only other one that I really like on this slate besides my top two. Capefeather's "high risk, high reward" strategy screams "glass cannon", but there are probably a million ways to engineer this Pokemon to have a significant effect on the metagame. It will probably shake up playstyles a bit, and teach us a reasonable amount about this game. Scoopapa's concept is okay in my opinion, and it has upside in that it will let us see BW as a three-weather metagame rather than a two-weather metagame. However, other than that I don't really like it. It adds to team diversity, but it wouldn't teach us a lot as it seems to be "what if Sun/Hail was a little better". Maybe I'm being short-sighted here, but this isn't a concept I like a ton. Rediamond's Time Capsule is a pretty quirky concept. It lets us see what the role of an old-timey Pokemon would be like in this generation, but other than that, it doesn't teach much about the current metagame. We can already see what previous-generation Pokemon do by looking at them in the DPP, RSE, GSC, or RBY generations, so it teaches us very little about BW2. Not a bad concept, but it's not one I'd like to see implemented. FlareBlitz's concept is interesting as well. However, I don't like its premise and what it desires to accomplish. By creating a Pokemon that punishes the creation of harmful field effects and rewarding beneficial field effects, we'd just exacerbate a problem with the metagame as it is (well I see it as a problem. Others may not, but this post is my opinion so bleh!) Furthermore, since only certain field effects will benefit this Pokemon, it may make the metagame even more one-dimensional. If you like field effects having a large influence on Pokemon, then I guess this is a nice concept for you. However, I am not one of those people, so I did not vote this concept highly. The first Utility Counter was an utter failure if you ask me, and I'd hate to see another Krilowatt (pre-revisions) made. I voted accordingly :P __________________ Favorite Pokemon-Swampert- formerly OU and staying that way. Cats are awesome, the best kind of cat is the Detroit Lion! Lolcat Nuzlocke Story http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11556879

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:03:48 PM	#30
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Sep 12th, 2012, 6:13:00 PM	#31
Quanyails Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 375	Rediamond Birkal Scoopapa Dah, wanted to comment on the latter batch of concepts. Darn you, schedule. __________________ .

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:14:04 PM	#32
uxsee Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 99 Arizona	Flareblitz Birkal capefeather __________________ If you buy one completo, it's only one dollar. BUT, if you buy two completos, it's only two dollars. BUT, if you buy three completos, it's only three dollars. BUT, if you buy four completos, it's only four dollars... Do you like my three buts?

Sep 12th, 2012, 5:57:27 PM	#27
420 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 252 Custom User Title	Rediamond Birkal Capefeather not a fan of the rest

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:01:15 PM	#29
Dusk209 No relation. Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 149	Birkal pwnemon Really lame slate tbh... oh well.

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:15:51 PM	#33
uwnim Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 165 Florida	Birkal Pwnemon capefeather Rediamond DarkSlay Scoopapa FlareBlitz

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:26:58 PM	#34
MCBarrett Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 204	Scoopapa Birkal Capefeather Last edited by MCBarrett; Sep 12th, 2012 at 6:27:46 PM. Reason: Didnt bold it by accident

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:28:33 PM	#35
General Spoon Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 511 Minnesota	DarkSlay FlareBlitz Rediamond capefeather Birkal Scoopapa Pwnemon

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:30:45 PM	#36
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,070 The Mentor	Birkal capefeather DarkSlay Scoopapa Pwnemon FlareBlitz Rediamond This is a really strong slate, in my opinion. Seven incredible concepts; congrats to all of the submitters for making it this far! If we keep up this level of quality, CAP4 is guaranteed to be awesome. __________________

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:33:05 PM	#37
Meganium Sulfate Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 84	capefeather Pwnemon

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:35:01 PM	#38
RavensNation Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 94 Baltimore, MD	Scoopapa FlareBlitz DarkSlay Birkal capefeather Rediamond Pwnemon I love Scoopapa's concept. I'd really love to see Hail become as prominent as Rain and Sand. Of course, no weather would be just as appreciated.

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:43:01 PM	#39
Shuckler Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 33 Under a rock	Flareblitz Rediamond Scoopapa (Lovin' the hail) Pwnemon Capefeather

Sep 12th, 2012, 6:50:29 PM	#40
Roserade Raider Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 268 Potomac, Maryland	Birkal Capefeather DarkSlay I think all of the concepts could lead to very interesting avenues of discussion, but these few were just my favorites.

Sep 12th, 2012, 7:03:46 PM	#41
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:10:43 PM	#42
Axaj Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 256 California	Birkal Rediamond capefeather DarkSlay Pwnemon __________________ ;)

Sep 12th, 2012, 7:11:19 PM	#43
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:13:48 PM	#44
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:17:01 PM	#45
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:18:00 PM	#46
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:25:03 PM	#47
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:42:24 PM	#48
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:43:07 PM	#49
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Sep 12th, 2012, 7:45:28 PM	#50
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