Few ideas for setting up a ladder that is competitive.

Nysyr · Sep 3rd, 2012, 11:24:10 PM

Just a few things I think would make the ladder more competitive.

1. Set rank max rank difference for matching that cannot be changed, likely this could only work in tiers that are highly populated. Might only work with OU.

2. Minimum rating must be achieved with a team before the name the team is tied to can start ranking up with said team and continue at their current rank.

Together these two can assure that rank sniping with counter teams is not possible, and also ensuring that the team being used is a competitively oriented one.

3. A system that bases rating change for a win/loss on the likelihood that one player would beat the other, so there isn't massive rating changes in matches that take place in the largest ranking deviation possible between the two players in a match. Win % (similar what was used for VGC placements) should also be factored in.

/end pseudo rant

GatoDelFuego · Sep 4th, 2012, 12:15:04 AM

All of this. I've gotten a bit annoyed when it takes me a half hour to outstall 3 players and have a net gain of +5 to my ratings.

breh · Sep 4th, 2012, 12:48:43 AM

If we're on the topic of ladder issues, we might as well throw in the issue of seeing the same opponent twice consecutively.

***Zarel**** · Sep 4th, 2012, 2:49:41 AM

The ladder is known to be broken, and I have some fixes planned, and yes, those are among them.

Sep 3rd, 2012, 11:24:10 PM	#1
Nysyr Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 83 Currently in the land of ragequit	Few ideas for setting up a ladder that is competitive. Just a few things I think would make the ladder more competitive. 1. Set rank max rank difference for matching that cannot be changed, likely this could only work in tiers that are highly populated. Might only work with OU. 2. Minimum rating must be achieved with a team before the name the team is tied to can start ranking up with said team and continue at their current rank. Together these two can assure that rank sniping with counter teams is not possible, and also ensuring that the team being used is a competitively oriented one. 3. A system that bases rating change for a win/loss on the likelihood that one player would beat the other, so there isn't massive rating changes in matches that take place in the largest ranking deviation possible between the two players in a match. Win % (similar what was used for VGC placements) should also be factored in. /end pseudo rant

Sep 4th, 2012, 12:15:04 AM	#2
GatoDelFuego Grammar! Apply directly to the analysis! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,170 The University of Alabama Mentor	All of this. I've gotten a bit annoyed when it takes me a half hour to outstall 3 players and have a net gain of +5 to my ratings. __________________ Part of the GP team, message me for a check! Sharpen your skills as a GP checker in the GRAMMAR DOJO!

Sep 4th, 2012, 12:48:43 AM	#3
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,960	If we're on the topic of ladder issues, we might as well throw in the issue of seeing the same opponent twice consecutively. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

Sep 4th, 2012, 2:49:41 AM	#4
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,170 >> END POSTBIT	The ladder is known to be broken, and I have some fixes planned, and yes, those are among them. __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.