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Old Sep 6th, 2012, 10:08:36 PM   #1
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The actual set is fine, but the description desperately needs more content. I is lacking in explanations and teammates, as well as any other options mentioned in AC and a general gist of what the set does. Here's what I've got so far:

name: Wish Support
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect / Recover
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Toxic / Grass Knot / Thunder / Calm Mind
item: Soul Dew
nature: Timid
evs: 112 HP / 204 SpA / 192 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

- due to Soul Dew making her really specially bulky, Latias can switch-in to the likes of Kyogre and Mewtwo to wall them
- Latias has Wish, which can make it so a teammate can recover half of its health just by Latias switching out to it after use
- this can help a lot with Pokemon that normally lack recovery like Giratina-O and Dialga that are likely to be taking a few hits due to their great resistances and monstrous power
- Protect allows you to scout out incoming moves to be on the safe side so that Latias's helpful Wish support isn't gone too quickly, as well as making pseudo-reliable recovery with infamous Wish + Protect combination
- Recover gives you reliable recovery when you need to recover her health to take a hit
- Toxic is for crippling bulky variants of Kygore and Groudon, as well as other walls like Lugia and to beat Wobbuffet that comes in to encore Calm Mind or something
- Grass Knot gets super effective coverage against Kyogre and Groudon
- Thunder has great coverage in Ubers overall, you can spread paralysis with it and it hits Kyogre and Lugia
- You can even run CM if you're running Recover and make a sort of multipurpose Latias that can pull off a sweep but with Wish for utility outside of sweeping

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

- the EVs allow you to outspeed most Palkia, take an Ice Beam fairly comfortably from Kyogre (meaning it does not 2HKO without Stealth Rock in play), and the remainder of the EVs are in Special Attack to make Dragon Pulse/coverage attack hit harder
- Soul Dew is the item of choice because well really it's the only reason you use Latias, helps it check Kyogre and I guess Manaphy
- you can potentially run Roar in the last slot to phaze out things like RestTalk CM Kyogre, then you'll want hazard support from the likes of Forretress and Dialga
- teammates like Dialga and Giratina-O that will be taking lots of hits throughout the game due to their excellent resistances love Latias's Wish support to keep them in top shape, the former also benefits from Latias being immune to Ground-type moves and resistant to Fighting-type moves, while Latias benefits from Dialga being resistant to Dark- and Ghost-type moves as well as being neutral to Dragon-type moves
- Wobbuffet likes the Wish support to be able to even do its job multiple times and eliminate multiple different Pokemon
- Kyogre and Groudon, which are very important to keep alive especially when facing opposing weather, enjoy Wish support to ensure that they outlast the opposing weather inducer to keep their preferred weather up (I guess Tyranitar, Abomasnow, and Hippowdon fit this description as well, with Tyranitar being by-and-far the most notable of the three)

Also, no insult to the author, but this isn't written very well at all. There are several grammar and prose issues and a few more examples could be added here and there. I'd like to rewrite this (not particularly needing to have QC check over it but that's fine) to overall improve the analysis

The Remainder of the Analysis In Its Current State


I think that you can see where I'm coming from. The goals of this thread:
  • Get the new additions to the Wish Support QC approved and written up as the old description is really sparse.
  • Rewrite the analysis because it isn't written very well and there are several grammar issues. I don't believe that this needs QC, but it will need GP. If QC members decide that this needs to be updated for content as well, I will of course put it into a skeleton form and make a usual revamp.

Yes this is a kind of strange update but it is what this analysis needs.
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Old Oct 4th, 2012, 6:30:44 PM   #2
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this set should just be removed from the site. latias doesn't have any business passing wishes. the only reason to use latias is to counter kyogre, and this sadly loses to cm kyogre
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alright then, feel free to move this thread to l&o
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