Little Cups (Cup 4, FINALS!)

**blarajan** · Oct 24th, 2012, 1:11:58 PM

Credit to Oglemi / RU for the OP

All right so basically we'll be spicing some things up in LC from now on~ It'll be like teambats, but much less annoying for us to deal with.

How to participate:

The LC Mini-Tournaments are run just like an official Smogon tournament. *The first thread/post posted is the sign-ups. *During the sign-ups you post "in".
All of the Rounds will take place in this thread, so keep your eyes peeled for when the round is over and the next round has started!
Sign ups will be in multiples of 8, randomized like official tournaments

General Rulings for all Tournaments

Identity

I expect many battles to be completed under alts. This can be bad for tournament security, and thus I will make this clear: If I hear any whispers of identity theft (battling as someone you are not) or proxy battling (helping someone else battle through pm) I will not be pleased and I will take severe actions.

Scouting

Next, I do not want to hear anything about counterteaming, at all. Do not complain about it. I also don't want to hear about any blatant scouting. There is a difference between "[user] is known for using stall" and "let me follow [user] around all day to watch all his battles since I am his opponent". I expect a lot of the former and none of the latter. With that said, I give permission to all battlers to ask any person spectating their battle to leave if they do not want them watching.*

Timer Clause

As for taking long between moves, if your opponent asks you to hurry up, please oblige. If you are doing a damage calc for a key turn that is one thing, but prolonging every move is suspicious and annoying. Don't do it. Furthermore, Battle Timeout is a rule for a reason. If you run out of time, you lose, simple as that. It does not matter what your opponent says. Do not battle if you think you will have to leave mid battle, and instead reschedule for a better time.

Disconnections

Finally, in the case of a disconnect, the decision is in the hands of the player who did not disconnect. The options are: redo the battle move for move, redo the battle with the same teams but different moves, or redo the battle with completely different teams. If the battle was without a doubt over, they may also take the win. Any suspicion that a disconnect was committed on purpose to redo a match may be appealed to me, and if I feel this happened there will be severe consequences, don't do it.

I know that was a lot to read, but it is all necessary for me to have posted here so everyone can see it in the case of a dispute. I don't want any confusion or any problems.

LC Mini-Tournaments Rules:

Battles will be played on Pokemon Showdown! / Pokemon Online.
Gen V LC
This is a single elimination best of one tournament.
You may switch your team each round.

Little Cup Rules:

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Other things to note about LC Mini-Tournaments:

All Rounds and tournaments will take place in this thread, so keep your eyes peeled for the start of new rounds and sign-ups.
Each tournament can and probably will have a quirk dealing with the LC metagame, which can change the ban list
Because most of these tourneys will have weird quirks, please save your logs and be prepared to take a screenshot of the battle should you suspect your opponent of cheating. *However, I do not want your logs and you don't have to submit your teams to me or whoever is running the mini-tourney.
Because all of the mini-tourneys will take place in this thread, there won't be more than one tourney running at a time.
Any of the above rules are subject to change depending on the tourney.

Important Note

Little Cups performance will be incorporated for Little Cup Player Ranking.
As such, deadlines will now be stringent. Extensions will be the exception, not the norm.
Every round you win in a Little Cup will give you 1 point for the Little Cup Player Ranking. See here for details.

Possible Rewards for *multiple* winners:

Custom title under your forum name
HOPs (Half-ops status (%) in #littlecup)

If you have any questions/concerns please don't be hesitate to post them below. Please refer to this thread for any basic questions. Otherwise, refer to any analyses / guides, join #littlecup on IRC, or post here!

Cup 1

Cup 2

Cup 3

**Elevator Music** · Feb 12th, 2013, 9:38:13 PM

Little Cup 4

NO SNOVER

Signups:

iss
Good_Luck!
Electrolyte
JacobNinja
Hawkstar
DatCoconut
Novaray
Shining Latios
default NNC
Skittle
Woodchuck
The Unlucky one
Corkscrew
Sarkynin
Mikel
The Quasar
macle
Chieliee
celever
Litchi
Delver
blarajan
Organization Member XIV
Finchinator
shuckles my hero
AuraRayquaza
Grimsly
FireMage
Conzipe
Younii
Nozzle
Qwilphish

iss · Feb 12th, 2013, 9:40:28 PM

in

it's almost begging for sand usage T.T

Good_Luck! · Feb 12th, 2013, 9:45:56 PM

Quote:

it's almost begging for sand usage T.T

That would be too obvious yet effective.

In.

Electrolyte · Feb 12th, 2013, 10:23:38 PM

in

JacobNinja · Feb 12th, 2013, 10:26:22 PM

In. I don't use snover

Hawkstar · Feb 12th, 2013, 10:28:16 PM

In

DatCoconut · Feb 12th, 2013, 11:04:04 PM

In

Novaray · Feb 12th, 2013, 11:04:23 PM

in

Shining Latios · Feb 12th, 2013, 11:13:57 PM

In

default NNC · Feb 12th, 2013, 11:16:13 PM

In please! LC is an underrated tier. ^.^

Skittle · Feb 13th, 2013, 12:06:13 AM

In

Woodchuck · Feb 13th, 2013, 12:56:01 AM

in
I hope this doesn't turn out to be terrible
also: ten bucks iss uses wingull

The Unlucky one · Feb 13th, 2013, 1:42:57 AM

these cups are really lacking diversity. In anyways, hopefully timezone bs doesn't turn me to The Unreasonable One again

Corkscrew · Feb 13th, 2013, 5:57:01 AM

in it to ~~win it~~ not get knocked out round 1 again

Sarkynin · Feb 13th, 2013, 7:30:15 AM

I'll try, in I guess

**mikel** · Feb 13th, 2013, 8:13:32 AM

i'm so very inb4 i get haxed again

woodchuck stop trying to gull the users

(in)

The Quasar · Feb 13th, 2013, 8:42:18 AM

I don't know LC at all. That's a good reason to IN

**macle** · Feb 13th, 2013, 9:38:16 AM

in

Chieliee · Feb 13th, 2013, 10:57:05 AM

in

celever · Feb 13th, 2013, 11:02:46 AM

In

Litchi · Feb 13th, 2013, 12:31:10 PM

in!

Delver · Feb 13th, 2013, 1:33:45 PM

I dont get the point of this LCC but I guess I'll get in on it.

edit: I guess a better way to state it is: The majority of people are going to be running sand teams and then theres going to be a select few trying to get things like Cottonee to work while they get swept because drilbur is going to be running X-scissor.

**blarajan** · Feb 13th, 2013, 3:09:21 PM

in

the point of these fuckers is to learn something

stop complaining start LEARNING

"no hail == sand++ so hmmm what do we do about that, is sand actually overpowering without snover?"

THINK GUYS THINK

iss · Feb 13th, 2013, 4:34:40 PM

figure way to trap hippo + rain + wingull = win

Oct 24th, 2012, 1:11:58 PM	#1
blarajan no abuse pls Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,715 Mentor	Little Cups (Cup 4, FINALS!) Credit to Oglemi / RU for the OP All right so basically we'll be spicing some things up in LC from now on~ It'll be like teambats, but much less annoying for us to deal with. How to participate: The LC Mini-Tournaments are run just like an official Smogon tournament. The first thread/post posted is the sign-ups. During the sign-ups you post "in". All of the Rounds will take place in this thread, so keep your eyes peeled for when the round is over and the next round has started! Sign ups will be in multiples of 8, randomized like official tournaments General Rulings for all Tournaments Identity I expect many battles to be completed under alts. This can be bad for tournament security, and thus I will make this clear: If I hear any whispers of identity theft (battling as someone you are not) or proxy battling (helping someone else battle through pm) I will not be pleased and I will take severe actions. Scouting Next, I do not want to hear anything about counterteaming, at all. Do not complain about it. I also don't want to hear about any blatant scouting. There is a difference between "[user] is known for using stall" and "let me follow [user] around all day to watch all his battles since I am his opponent". I expect a lot of the former and none of the latter. With that said, I give permission to all battlers to ask any person spectating their battle to leave if they do not want them watching.* Timer Clause As for taking long between moves, if your opponent asks you to hurry up, please oblige. If you are doing a damage calc for a key turn that is one thing, but prolonging every move is suspicious and annoying. Don't do it. Furthermore, Battle Timeout is a rule for a reason. If you run out of time, you lose, simple as that. It does not matter what your opponent says. Do not battle if you think you will have to leave mid battle, and instead reschedule for a better time. Disconnections Finally, in the case of a disconnect, the decision is in the hands of the player who did not disconnect. The options are: redo the battle move for move, redo the battle with the same teams but different moves, or redo the battle with completely different teams. If the battle was without a doubt over, they may also take the win. Any suspicion that a disconnect was committed on purpose to redo a match may be appealed to me, and if I feel this happened there will be severe consequences, don't do it. I know that was a lot to read, but it is all necessary for me to have posted here so everyone can see it in the case of a dispute. I don't want any confusion or any problems. LC Mini-Tournaments Rules: Battles will be played on Pokemon Showdown! / Pokemon Online. Gen V LC This is a single elimination best of one tournament. You may switch your team each round. Little Cup Rules: ... Pokémon: Players are allowed a team of up to 6 Pokémon that meet the following conditions: The Pokémon must be able to evolve. The Pokémon must be the earliest evolution stage obtainable. The Pokémon must be at Level 5. The Pokémon must not be on the Ubers list. Species Clause - Only one Pokémon may be on a team from each species. Ubers - The following are banned from use in Little Cup: Carvanha Meditite Gligar Scyther Sneasel Tangela Vulpix Yanma Abilities, Items, and Moves: Abilities: Moody is banned. Items: Pokémon in Little Cup are allowed to hold items, as in any Pokémon match. The "Item Clause" is not in effect in Little Cup, multiple teammates can hold the same item. The item Berry Juice is banned. Moves: Pokémon in Little Cup can use (nearly) any move available to them at Level 5. All non-genderless Pokemon can use their level-up moves, and genderless Pokemon can use any 3rd generation level-up move in conjunction with any TMs. Sonicboom and Dragon Rage are both banned moves. Further information on illegal move combinations is located here. OHKO Clause - Moves that score a guaranteed "One-hit-KO" on the opponent, such as Sheer Cold, Horn Drill, Guillotine, or Fissure, are banned. Evasion Clause - Moves that directly increase a users Evasion such as Double Team and Minimize are banned. Battle Mechanics: Sleep Clause - Only one Pokémon can be put to sleep by an opponent at a time, per team. Self-KO Clause - If an opponent uses Selfdestruct or Explosion with their last Pokémon, they lose the game regardless of the number of Pokémon remaining on the other team. Evasion Clause - Moves that boost evasion (i.e. Double Team and Minimize) are not allowed. EVs: Contrary to some beliefs, it has been proven that even with a level 5 baby, any EV spread is possible on any Pokémon. Thus, the standard in game maximum of 255 EVs per stat, 510 EVs total is the only limitation on EVs in Little Cup. Other things to note about LC Mini-Tournaments: All Rounds and tournaments will take place in this thread, so keep your eyes peeled for the start of new rounds and sign-ups. Each tournament can and probably will have a quirk dealing with the LC metagame, which can change the ban list Because most of these tourneys will have weird quirks, please save your logs and be prepared to take a screenshot of the battle should you suspect your opponent of cheating. However, I do not want your logs and you don't have to submit your teams to me or whoever is running the mini-tourney. Because all of the mini-tourneys will take place in this thread, there won't be more than one tourney running at a time. Any of the above rules are subject to change depending on the tourney. Important Note* Little Cups performance will be incorporated for Little Cup Player Ranking. As such, deadlines will now be stringent. Extensions will be the exception, not the norm. Every round you win in a Little Cup will give you 1 point for the Little Cup Player Ranking. See here for details. *Possible Rewards for multiple* winners:** Custom title under your forum name HOPs (Half-ops status (%) in #littlecup) If you have any questions/concerns please don't be hesitate to post them below. Please refer to this thread for any basic questions. Otherwise, refer to any analyses / guides, join #littlecup on IRC, or post here! Cup 1 Little Cups 1! Weather Palooza Special Rules: Vulpix / Drought is unbanned from LC Poliwag will be given Drizzle (which means all challenges will be made in a Pokemon Showdown! Hackmons sort of tier) Drizzle + Swift Swim will be legal, we straight up thug in LC note: All move illegalities that apply to Poliwag with Swift Swim will be in effect for Poliwag with Drizzle Sign ups: Dr. Ciel Silvershadow234 JacobNinja Chieliee DittoCrow Raseri New Breed Furry Nanoswine Ray Jay dragonboy52 Delver Hawkstar BROStime Litchi Elevator Music Mylo Xyloto Sir Gengan A l e x a n d e r Metroid78 iss comatthew6 Corkscrew blarajan MarceloDK little_gk Enix prem KingTorterraXIV Someoneelse spuds4ever Round 1 KingTorterraXIV vs iss Corkscrew vs little_gk Elevator Music vs A l e x a n d e r Silvershadow234 vs Dr. Ciel Ray Jay vs Enix Metroid78 vs Furry New Breed vs Mylo Xyloto Delver vs Chieliee blarajan vs Litchi JacobNinja vs DittoCrow prem vs Someoneelse Gengan vs MarceloDK Raseri vs Nanoswine Princess Bri vs comatthew6 Hawkstar vs Sir dragonboy52 vs spuds4ever ROUND TWO MarceloDK vs dragonboy52 Mylo Xyloto vs comatthew6 Dr. Ciel vs Chieliee Someoneelse vs KingTorterraXIV Nanoswine vs Corkscrew Enix vs Hawkstar DittoCrow vs Metroid78 Elevator Music vs Litchi ROUND 3 Elevator Music vs Metroid 78 Hawkstar vs MarceloDK Mylo Xyloto vs Chieliee Corkscrew vs Someoneelse ROUND 4 MarceloDK vs Elevator Music Corkscrew vs Chieliee FINALS Elevator Music vs Chieliee Cup 2 LITTLE CUP 2 Rule: No Scraggy Allowed Otherwise Standard Sign Ups: Jacob Ninja Corkscrew Chieliee Delver Hawkstar iss Sir DatCoconut Litchi Ray Jay Tofu Raseri Elevator Music little gk prem Phazon00 Woodchuck Mikel thebrownie TehMexicanDewd Oiawesome The Unlucky one Demist comatthew6 viashinomage Gone to the beach blarajan EBeast FLCL Enigneer Pikachu Round 1 Oiawesome vs Engineer Pikachu The Unlucky one vs DatCoconut Chieliee vs Ray Jay Furai Jacob Ninja vs iss Hawkstar vs Gone to the beach comatthew6 vs TehMexicanDewd thebrownie vs Sir EBeast vs blarajan prem vs viashinomage Mikel vs Corkscrew Raseri vs Elevator Music Demist vs Delver Woodchuck vs Phazon00 Tofu vs little gk FLCL vs BYE Litchi vs BYE Deadline will be 11:59 PM EST Wednesday, December 5th. Round 2 Gave Gone to the Beach and Tofu activity wins. Gone to the beach vs Furai Engineer Pikachu vs Litchi Mikel vs TehMexicanDewd thebrownie vs Tofu Elevator Music vs Delver prem vs iss Woodchuck vs FLCL EBeast vs The Unlucky one Deadline 12/12/12!!! Coinflipped Engineer Pikachu vs. Litchi Round 3: Elevator Music vs. FLCL Furai vs. EBeast Litchi vs. prem thebrownie vs. TehMexicanDewd Deadline is 12/20/12 Round 4 FLCL v. thebrownie EBeast v. Litchi deadline 12/28/12 Finals FlCL v. Litchi Cup 3 Little Cup 3 NO DRILBUR OR MURKROW FireMage Raseri prem Elevator Music Hawkstar Good Luck FLCL Mikel iss Corkscrew The Unlucky One The Ttar Litchi Woodchuck Mylo Xyloto Chieliee blarajan DatCoconut Dr. Ciel Diana little_gk Windsong Round 1 little_gk vs FLCL Hawkstar vs Bye Elevator Music vs Diana iss vs FireMage Chieliee vs Litchi The Ttar vs Woodchuck prem vs DatCoconut Mylo Xyloto vs blarajan Raseri vs Dr. Ciel Good Luck vs Mikel The Unlucky One vs Corkscrew Windsong vs Bye Round 2 Woodchuck vs Elevator Music iss vs Windsong Good Luck vs ~~Mylo Xyloto~~ blarajan The Unlucky One vs Chieliee prem vs Raseri Hawkstar vs FLCL Round 3 Elevator Music vs iss Hawkstar vs Good Luck Raseri vs The Unlucky One finals Hawkstar v Elevator Music Elevator Music v The Unlucky One Hawkstar v The Unlucky One __________________ Team Babby: Little Cup in Ubers RMT Last edited by Elevator Music; Feb 12th, 2013 at 9:37:30 PM.

Feb 12th, 2013, 9:38:13 PM	#2
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,445	Little Cup 4 NO SNOVER Signups: iss Good_Luck! Electrolyte JacobNinja Hawkstar DatCoconut Novaray Shining Latios default NNC Skittle Woodchuck The Unlucky one Corkscrew Sarkynin Mikel The Quasar macle Chieliee celever Litchi Delver blarajan Organization Member XIV Finchinator shuckles my hero AuraRayquaza Grimsly FireMage Conzipe Younii Nozzle Qwilphish __________________ Last edited by Elevator Music; Feb 19th, 2013 at 1:54:06 PM.

Feb 12th, 2013, 9:40:28 PM	#3
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,972 sirndpt <3	in it's almost begging for sand usage T.T __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan

Feb 12th, 2013, 10:23:38 PM	#5
Electrolyte Cause you keep me coming back for more Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,039 And I feel a little better than I did before Mentor	in __________________ Stuff (Click!): l l l l l l l l l VM me for an OU / LC team rate! MURKBRO MAFIA

Feb 12th, 2013, 10:26:22 PM	#6
JacobNinja Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 171	In. I don't use snover __________________ this world is not real WAKE UP

Feb 12th, 2013, 10:28:16 PM	#7
Hawkstar Are you hanging by a thread or swinging from the rope? Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 627 Western Pennsylvania	In __________________ Art thread! [22:11] Helias: FUCK YOU HAWKSTAR THAT'S NOT MY NAME

Feb 12th, 2013, 11:04:04 PM	#8
DatCoconut Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 17	In

Feb 12th, 2013, 11:04:23 PM	#9
Novaray i am happy Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,134 that's just the saddest lie Mentor	in __________________ island in the sun

Feb 12th, 2013, 11:13:57 PM	#10
Shining Latios Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,311	In

Feb 12th, 2013, 11:16:13 PM	#11
default NNC Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 11	In please! LC is an underrated tier. ^.^ __________________ Due to... computer issues leading to extreme lag, I can't battle on the main PS server while on my laptop (And I rarely get on anywhere else). Instead, you may find me at either Orivexes' or kupo's server.

Feb 13th, 2013, 12:06:13 AM	#12
Skittle Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 20	In __________________ -Meow-

Feb 13th, 2013, 12:56:01 AM	#13
Woodchuck <Feranfell> punbot irl aka virginity protector Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,647 us best	in I hope this doesn't turn out to be terrible also: ten bucks iss uses wingull __________________

Feb 13th, 2013, 1:42:57 AM	#14
The Unlucky one Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 500 Philippines	these cups are really lacking diversity. In anyways, hopefully timezone bs doesn't turn me to The Unreasonable One again __________________ 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magikarp Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 84 SpD Ho-Oh in rain: 228-270 (54.93 - 65.06%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock you may know me as "superwii64cube" too

Feb 13th, 2013, 5:57:01 AM	#15
Corkscrew Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 640 England	in it to ~~win it~~ not get knocked out round 1 again __________________ Avatar by Magistrum

Feb 13th, 2013, 7:30:15 AM	#16
Sarkynin Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 138 In /vp/'s refugiee camps.	I'll try, in I guess

Feb 13th, 2013, 8:13:32 AM	#17
mikel hear me roar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 614 buttralia Mentor	i'm so very inb4 i get haxed again woodchuck stop trying to gull the users (in) __________________ pokemon showdown \| contributions and corrections \| little cup \| pm/vm for a gp check [2013-02-13T17:59:26.637Z] (lobby) Blue Kirby was banned by Joim. (Smog Nominee Award Joim invites you to kindly take a time off of his website, banned user: BlueKirby) [3:33:40 PM] <~bmelts> inasmuch as this is the crux of the aforementioned set

Feb 13th, 2013, 8:42:18 AM	#18
The Quasar Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 336 Italy	I don't know LC at all. That's a good reason to IN

Feb 13th, 2013, 9:38:16 AM	#19
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,724 Wisconsin Mentor	in __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Feb 13th, 2013, 10:57:05 AM	#20
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	in __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.

Feb 13th, 2013, 11:02:46 AM	#21
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,059 I HATE COD	In

Feb 13th, 2013, 12:31:10 PM	#22
Litchi Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 45 Beyond the river Skai	in!

Feb 13th, 2013, 1:33:45 PM	#23
Delver Sometimes I'm just like "Dang, I really want a dick in my bum" Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 141	I dont get the point of this LCC but I guess I'll get in on it. edit: I guess a better way to state it is: The majority of people are going to be running sand teams and then theres going to be a select few trying to get things like Cottonee to work while they get swept because drilbur is going to be running X-scissor. Last edited by Delver; Feb 13th, 2013 at 5:31:34 PM.

Feb 13th, 2013, 3:09:21 PM	#24
blarajan no abuse pls Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,715 Mentor	in the point of these fuckers is to learn something stop complaining start LEARNING "no hail == sand++ so hmmm what do we do about that, is sand actually overpowering without snover?" THINK GUYS THINK __________________ Team Babby: Little Cup in Ubers RMT

Feb 13th, 2013, 4:34:40 PM	#25
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,972 sirndpt <3	figure way to trap hippo + rain + wingull = win __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan