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Lilligant [SET] name: Choice Scarf move 1: Sleep Powder move 2: Leaf Storm move 3: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire move 4: Healing Wish item: Choice Scarf ability: Own Tempo nature: Timid evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p>Thanks to her access to Quiver Dance and the fact that such a set is incredibly difficult to stop, most people often forget that Lilligant isn't necessarily limited to just being a Quiver Dance sweeper. By slapping a Choice Scarf on her, Lilligant becomes capable of far more than just acting as a simple set-up sweeper. Thanks to her blistering Speed with a Choice Scarf attached, Lilligant is able to pull off certain support moves that she would otherwise be unable to do with her mediocre defenses, which allows her to support her teammates more effectively. Furthermore, although the lack of Quiver Dance will limit Lilligant's damage output, her naturally potent Special Attack stat still lets her dish out serious damage with her most powerful STAB attacks, both of which are generally not used on a Quiver Dance-based set.</p> <p>Of the moves listed on this set, Sleep Powder is easily the most important. Thanks to the extra Speed boost provided by Choice Scarf, Sleep Powder is capable of serving a variety of new, useful purposes that Lilligant would otherwise be unable to use it for. For example, because Lilligant is able to outspeed almost every unboosted Pokemon in the RU metagame, she can be used in the lead position to shut down virtually every hazard setter in the tier right on the first turn, so long as you do not get unlucky or they use the rare Lum Berry. Furthermore, the basically guaranteed use of Sleep Powder makes Lilligant an incredibly powerful force; putting an opponent to sleep right at the beginning of the game is very useful, so long as they don't have a dedicated sleep absorber and/or you don't get unlucky, it will easily give you great early-game momentum.</p> <p>Because Sleep Powder makes Lilligant the incredibly powerful force it is early-game, the rest of the set is designed to make Lilligant strong during the mid- or late-game after Sleep Powder has been used up. Leaf Storm, coupled with Lilligant's incredible base 110 Special Attack, is the main move that gives Lilligant much of her mid-game utility, because its humongous power, in tandem with Lilligant's blistering Speed, lets Lilligant act as a great revenge killer to boosting sweepers such as Rock Polish Aggron. Hidden Power Rock and Hidden Power Fire are used to support Lilligant's revenge killing prowess by giving her the coverage to hit specific troublesome threats super effectively. Hidden Power Rock handles Sigilyph, Entei, Moltres, Magmortar, and Scyther, while also giving Lilligant some nice neutral coverage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Durant, Escavalier, Klinklang, Magneton, Rotom-C, and Sceptile hard. Note that a neutral Leaf Storm still hits harder than a 2x super effective Hidden Power, so Leaf Storm is still Lilligant's best option in most cases. However, while the combination of Leaf Storm and Lilligant's Hidden Power of choice will let her be excel mid-game, it is Healing Wish that makes Lilligant so incredibly useful late-game. When Lilligant is at low health, she can use Healing Wish to bring back a weakened partner to full health, which can easily cause the game to end right there and then as that fully-healed Pokemon tears through the opponent's weakened team.</p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p>With max Speed investment and a Timid nature, Lilligant is capable of outspeeding and threatening Choice Scarf-wielding Pokemon such as Rotom-C, while max Special Attack is used to make Leaf Storm and the Hidden Power of choice hit as hard as possible. If these Pokemon aren't especially problematic for your team, you can opt to use a Modest nature to make Leaf Storm all the more devastating. Alternatively, if you find that Lilligant merely serves more of a supportive role for your team, and you rarely end up using its offensive options, feel free to shift the Special Attack EVs into HP in order to let Lilligant last longer throughout the match.</p> <p>As stated previously, Lilligant actually has a surprisingly broad support movepool that is often neglected, and with a Choice Scarf attached, many of these options become viable; even though Healing Wish is generally the best out of these, her other options should not be discounted. In particular, Stun Spore is an excellent move that can be used in the last slot. Thanks to Lilligant's incredible Speed, Lilligant will almost always be able to use Stun Spore during the match, and this can be used a myriad of ways. For example, Stun Spore can be used to cripple fast threats that are rampaging through your team, so long as Lilligant can outspeed them with a Choice Scarf, thus prevent them from continuing their sweep. Alternatively, Stun Spore can be used to hit sleep absorbers that might try to switch into Sleep Powder, which lets you preserve Sleep Powder so you can use it later in the match. If support moves are not your thing, and you are using this variant of Lilligant more offensively, Giga Drain can be used in the last slot to give Lilligant a reliable STAB move that has no drawbacks, until the time comes to use the primary ones listed on this set. Petal Dance is also an option over Leaf Storm if you want to give Lilligant the ability to sweep, although this greatly limits her ability to revenge kill threats.</p> <p>This set is great at doing three main jobs for your team: stopping entry hazards from going up early in the match, nabbing a free switch in for one of your Pokemon while giving them to the opportunity to set up, and revenge killing annoying Rock-, Water-, and Ground-type threats. Therefore, Pokemon that despise entry hazards and can easily begin to decimate the opponent after a single free switch in are the best partners for this set. Notably, Zangoose and Swellow work particularly well. Both of these Pokemon absolutely despise entry hazards as they shorten their lifespan greatly, and that free switch Lilligant is able to provide is more than enough of an opportunity for them to tear through the opponent's team with their boosted STAB Facades. Lilligant can even remove the likes of Alomomola, Steelix, and Regirock, which can all give these two Pokemon severe issues, and she can also lure out and destroy Escavalier with Hidden Power Fire.</p> <p>However, this variant of Lilligant does have some issues. Grass-types, such as Amoonguss and Roselia, shrug off anything Lilligant throws at them; thus, if Sleep Powder has already been used up and these Pokemon are still alive, Lilligant's best choice will be to sacrifice itself with Healing Wish. Thus, you probably want to use Pokemon that are capable of destroying Grass-types with ease. Choice Band Entei, Emboar, and Moltres are all particularly good choices for this job; Lilligant's ability to deny early entry hazards benefits Moltres and Entei greatly, and Healing Wish helps these Pokemon very much as well. Because Emboar and Entei will be taking plenty of recoil damage from Flare Blitz, Healing Wish can help rid them of that residual damage late-game, while Healing Wish can give Moltres that one last switch in if Stealth Rock is up, which could be all it needs to take out the opponent's last few Pokemon. Sap Sipper Pokemon such as Miltank and Bouffalant might also be troublesome as they are immune to both Sleep Powder and Leaf Storm, so a Ghost-type such as Spiritomb or Rotom can be useful to help combat them.</p> Last edited by blarajan; May 22nd, 2013 at 12:34:00 AM. |
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This is ready for its third QC check.
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Make Petal Dance an AC mention only. Kill the line about BW Sleep mechanics being a KO. This isn't 2011. Switch the order in which you discuss HP Rock and HP Fire considering the slash order. Mention how a resisted Leaf Storm hits harder than a neutral Hidden Power. Change the line that says "outruns up to Choice Scarf base 80s, and Choice Scarf Rotom-C" and only mention Rotom-C. Remove Stun Spore and Aromatherapy from the AC. Those are not things that go on Choice Scarf Pokemon. Include Bouffalant and Miltank in the bit about counters.
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Kept the bit about Stun Spore in AC because Stun Spore is actually not bad, but did everything else so this should be ready for GP checks.
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Thanks for the check Oglemi :). This is ready for GP check 2.
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Great job, the only problem was that phrases such a "so long as" and "incredibly powerful" were used way too much, so I've replaced them with similar phrases. I've addressed this in the comments of my Diff Amcheck already but if you want, you can use your own phrases that are similar to "so long as" and "incredibly powerful".
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Thanks, all those changes have been implemented :).
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Great job SV! GP 2/2
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Thanks, this should be done now.
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