NO-Weather Ubers Tournament - Round 3

**Harsha** · Nov 19th, 2012, 9:20:14 PM

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NO-Weather Ubers Tournament

Artwork by Juicy Fruit from the Artwork for Tournaments Thread!

Introduction:
Weather is a dominating factor in the Ubers metagame—that's a given. With forces such as Groudon and Kyogre controlling the match, and even Tyranitar's ability to set up Garchomp, Excadrill, and similar offensive threats, there's no denying that statement. It's hard to imagine what a metagame without weather would be like, and questions such as "Would people still run Thunder on Palkia?" or "Would Reshiram still be a major offensive threat without sun?" would be pulled out; however, in this tournament, we aim to explore how influential weather is in the metagame.

Tournament Rules:
-BW2 Ubers (Smogon's tiering list reigns supreme)
-6v6 Singles
-Best of Three
-Weather is BANNED (More on this later)

Clauses:
-Wifi Battle
-Species Clause
-Sleep Clause
-Timer Clause
-Evasion Clause
-OHKO Clause

Weather:
You cannot use any Pokemon with a weather-inducing ability or any weather-inducing moves. This means you cannot use Groudon or Kyogre, and Ninetales with Drought, Politoed with Drizzle, Tyranitar with Sand Stream, Hippowdon with Sand Stream, Abomasnow with Snow Warning, etc. However, you may use a Pokemon that has another ability available (e.g. Ninetales with Flash Fire, Politoed with Damp).

Battles are to be played on Pokemon Showdown!, but if both players agree, battles can occur on Pokemon Online. However, Smogon's tiering rules apply no matter where the battle is held.

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Previous rounds

Activity wins and coinflips

Round 3:
Living Things vs Furai
bro fist vs Pocket
Myzozoa vs SoulWind
DarkLoïc vs LuckOverSkill
Steven Snype vs Cristal
soviet vs T-Dogg
AuraRayquaza vs Mr.lol
ZoroDark vs WDFAMatt

Deadline is November 30th at 12:00 PM GMT -6. Please get your matches done!

Mr.lol · Nov 19th, 2012, 10:29:51 PM

VM'd AuraRayquaza.

Brap · Nov 20th, 2012, 3:54:44 PM

Why? How was that deemed to be worthy of a coin flip? Please explain.

"Ok, I saw you on Showdown as sovietkenya, but you were in a battle. I would've sent you a message in the battle, but I saw it was an ubers battle and I presumed you were testing your team to use against me. Instead I just sent you a PM which you didn't see and then you left."

How does that alone not warrant me the victory? I posted it to his profile and he's deleted a message he sent to me for unknown reasons.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/convers...7040&u2=139227

To further that; we posted stating our timezone, I vaguely suggested of time of 8pm my time, or 3pm his time. He said he couldn't do that until the weekend which was fine with me. However, I did not see him on over the weekend, depsite me beeing on later than the stated time. So that is surely me being more active? Frustrated by his lack of response to that, I tried every opportunity to get the battle done, by posting I was ready to battle on 2 successive days. Then we tried to be clever and cheeky with each other, even though I now realise I had already suggested a time, to which he had never said he blantantly could not make. The rest of the conversation is pretty much self-explanatory.

I question my judgement here a bit though, I am unsure if it would have been wiser to send a message to you directly, the host; Harsha...

soviet · Nov 20th, 2012, 8:22:58 PM

dear bartman101 aka brap

( ͡ノ° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ y u cry? (　´◔　‸◔`)

cheer up pal! φ(ºーº )ノ

i vm'd t-dogg also

T-Dogg · Nov 21st, 2012, 12:22:47 AM

Replied

WDFAmatt · Nov 21st, 2012, 8:34:45 AM

Contacted opponent.

**Furai** · Nov 22nd, 2012, 5:34:04 AM

vm'd

bro fist · Nov 22nd, 2012, 9:48:23 AM

contacted

Living Things · Nov 22nd, 2012, 1:39:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Furai

vm'd

responded, it shouldn't be a problem to get this matches done asap.

**Furai** · Nov 22nd, 2012, 2:43:37 PM

choked game 1

lost game 2 to a gayass set

WDFAmatt · Nov 24th, 2012, 12:36:58 PM

Zoro and I are playing tomorrow.

LuckOverSkill · Nov 24th, 2012, 2:52:59 PM

Won vs DarkLoic, gg

DarkLoïc · Nov 24th, 2012, 2:59:03 PM

confirming, ggs

Steven Snype · Nov 24th, 2012, 3:36:12 PM

lost to Cristal in a fun set of games ggs

Cristal · Nov 24th, 2012, 3:36:27 PM

I won 2-1, a Psycho boost miss made it difficult for him in the last one

ggs though

WDFAmatt · Nov 25th, 2012, 3:12:19 PM

Lost, ggs

ZoroDark · Nov 25th, 2012, 3:13:11 PM

beat NO FEAR in 2 good, haxfree games

Myzozoa · Nov 25th, 2012, 3:27:09 PM

haxed soulwind

SoulWind · Nov 25th, 2012, 3:27:37 PM

Confirming, ggs and gl in the rest.

Mr.lol · Nov 28th, 2012, 10:01:36 PM

Activity post, we're in contact but having some difficulty finding a time to battle each other.

EDIT: I haven't had a response from him in a VM for a while now...

Nov 19th, 2012, 9:20:14 PM	#1
Harsha Moderator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 936 Houston, TX Mentor	NO-Weather Ubers Tournament - Round 3 Approved by Earthworm and Iconic \| Signups \| Round 1 \| Round 2 NO-Weather Ubers Tournament Artwork by Juicy Fruit from the Artwork for Tournaments Thread! Introduction: Weather is a dominating factor in the Ubers metagame—that's a given. With forces such as Groudon and Kyogre controlling the match, and even Tyranitar's ability to set up Garchomp, Excadrill, and similar offensive threats, there's no denying that statement. It's hard to imagine what a metagame without weather would be like, and questions such as "Would people still run Thunder on Palkia?" or "Would Reshiram still be a major offensive threat without sun?" would be pulled out; however, in this tournament, we aim to explore how influential weather is in the metagame. Tournament Rules: -BW2 Ubers (Smogon's tiering list reigns supreme) -6v6 Singles -Best of Three -Weather is BANNED (More on this later) Clauses: -Wifi Battle -Species Clause -Sleep Clause -Timer Clause -Evasion Clause -OHKO Clause Weather: You cannot use any Pokemon with a weather-inducing ability or any weather-inducing moves. This means you cannot use Groudon or Kyogre, and Ninetales with Drought, Politoed with Drizzle, Tyranitar with Sand Stream, Hippowdon with Sand Stream, Abomasnow with Snow Warning, etc. However, you may use a Pokemon that has another ability available (e.g. Ninetales with Flash Fire, Politoed with Damp). Battles are to be played on Pokemon Showdown!, but if both players agree, battles can occur on Pokemon Online. However, Smogon's tiering rules apply no matter where the battle is held. Signups Signups: Pocket Hantsuki Sujiro Kifuja .Robert Pedrock Pkrs Focus MikeDecIsHere Mr.lol Kennen Xx Coren37 Yehom dragonboy52 A l e x a n d e r davidness Living Things Seco453 lijero13ss Rydro Furry SoulWind Anno nyme Kojes LuckOverSkill Cristal nightcore blarajan Zaker WDFAmatt Brap T-Dogg pokebasket Metal Bagon Myzozoa bro fist Metroid78 PDC Hawkstar shartruce2 Steven Snype ThisMysteriousGuy dragonuser Iconic Dr Ciel TheStarRapper Emix DarkLoïc Melee Mewtwo SilentRevolver Lavos Spawn Sayonara ZoroDark Princess Bri V0x -PkmTrainerBlue- Jimbon Turnip123 alexwolf HSA relaunched Rosario AuraRayquaza Hyperbeem Afonso97 King Alice FelixMinamimoto Brotom Orichalcos Owl SehtZiBritannia Dude24 Previous rounds Round 1: Kennen vs soviet DarkLoïc vs Dr Ciel Xx Coren37 vs shartruce2 Lavos Spawn vs King T-Dogg vs lijero13ss Yehom vs Living Things Poppy vs V0x Pkrs vs .Robert Mr.lol vs Alice Myzozoa vs Jimbon dragonuser vs Dude24 Metal Bagon vs Turnip123 ThisMysteriousGuy vs FelixMinamimoto Brotom vs Princess Bri Orichalcos Owl vs Pedrock ZoroDark vs TheStarRapper blarajan vs SoulWind Hyperbeem vs Sujiro Kifuja Hantsuki vs SehtZiBritannia bro fist vs Sayonara dragonboy52 vs Rydro Seco453 vs AuraRayquaza SilentRevolver vs WDFAmatt LuckOverSkill vs -PkmTrainerBlue- Iconic vs MikeDecIsHere pokebasket vs Steven Snype A l e x a n d e r vs Cristal davidness vs Melee Mewtwo Brap vs Kojes Pocket vs relaunched nightcore vs Anno nyme Focus vs Furry Round 2: Poppy vs WDFAMatt Steven Snype vs Pedrock Hantsuki vs ZoroDark dragonuser vs Pocket nightcore vs Mr.lol Furry vs Rydro shartruce2 vs Living Things soviet vs Brap T-Dogg vs Turnip123 Sujiro Kifuja vs Cristal Pkrs vs SoulWind Princess Bri vs LuckOverSkill DarkLoïc vs FelixMinamimoto davidness vs bro fist AuraRayquaza vs Lavos Spawn Myzozoa vs Iconic Activity wins and coinflips Activity: nightcore vs Mr.lol Furry vs Rydro T-Dogg vs Turnip123 Sujiro Kifuja vs Cristal Princess Bri vs LuckOverSkill Coinflips: soviet vs Brap Myzozoa vs Iconic Round 3: Living Things vs Furai bro fist vs Pocket Myzozoa vs SoulWind DarkLoïc vs LuckOverSkill Steven Snype vs Cristal soviet vs T-Dogg AuraRayquaza vs Mr.lol ZoroDark vs WDFAMatt Deadline is November 30th at 12:00 PM GMT -6. Please get your matches done! Last edited by Harsha; Nov 30th, 2012 at 6:23:06 PM.

Nov 19th, 2012, 10:29:51 PM	#2
Mr.lol Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 652 complex plane	VM'd AuraRayquaza. __________________ (15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]: Actually Deoxys-a is not the frailest uber (15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]:Its Carvanha (15:33) X-Spin: O.O What are its bases? (15:33) Dusk [DW Uber]: 45/20/20 so close to matching Deo-a's 50/20/20 (15:33) X-Spin: That's enough to wall Specs Kyogre! Great Sage is the best.

Nov 20th, 2012, 3:54:44 PM	#3
Brap Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 214 England	Why? How was that deemed to be worthy of a coin flip? Please explain. "Ok, I saw you on Showdown as sovietkenya, but you were in a battle. I would've sent you a message in the battle, but I saw it was an ubers battle and I presumed you were testing your team to use against me. Instead I just sent you a PM which you didn't see and then you left." How does that alone not warrant me the victory? I posted it to his profile and he's deleted a message he sent to me for unknown reasons. http://www.smogon.com/forums/convers...7040&u2=139227 To further that; we posted stating our timezone, I vaguely suggested of time of 8pm my time, or 3pm his time. He said he couldn't do that until the weekend which was fine with me. However, I did not see him on over the weekend, depsite me beeing on later than the stated time. So that is surely me being more active? Frustrated by his lack of response to that, I tried every opportunity to get the battle done, by posting I was ready to battle on 2 successive days. Then we tried to be clever and cheeky with each other, even though I now realise I had already suggested a time, to which he had never said he blantantly could not make. The rest of the conversation is pretty much self-explanatory. I question my judgement here a bit though, I am unsure if it would have been wiser to send a message to you directly, the host; Harsha... __________________ I can only battle on Showdown, not PO1 or PO2. Apologies in advance. Last edited by Brap; Nov 20th, 2012 at 4:10:55 PM. Reason: Spelling

Nov 22nd, 2012, 5:34:04 AM	#7
Furai standing in the eye of the hurricane Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,088	vm'd __________________ *#gohard* \| Wolfpack (Ubers RMT)

Nov 22nd, 2012, 2:43:37 PM	#10
Furai standing in the eye of the hurricane Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,088	choked game 1 lost game 2 to a gayass set __________________ *#gohard* \| Wolfpack (Ubers RMT)

Nov 20th, 2012, 8:22:58 PM	#4
soviet Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 203 North Carolina	dear bartman101 aka brap ( ͡ノ° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ y u cry? (　´◔　‸◔`) cheer up pal! φ(ºーº )ノ i vm'd t-dogg also

Nov 21st, 2012, 12:22:47 AM	#5
T-Dogg Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 342	Replied

Nov 21st, 2012, 8:34:45 AM	#6
WDFAmatt Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 121 'Tis a mystery.	Contacted opponent.

Nov 22nd, 2012, 9:48:23 AM	#8
bro fist Voyager Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 508	contacted

Nov 24th, 2012, 12:36:58 PM	#11
WDFAmatt Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 121 'Tis a mystery.	Zoro and I are playing tomorrow.

Nov 24th, 2012, 2:52:59 PM	#12
LuckOverSkill Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 390	Won vs DarkLoic, gg __________________ Luck>Skill—Patron of virtue, Rome's best champion, / Successful in the battles that he fights

Nov 24th, 2012, 2:59:03 PM	#13
DarkLoïc Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 824 Belgium	confirming, ggs

Nov 24th, 2012, 3:36:12 PM	#14
Steven Snype Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,767 Nowhere special Mentor	lost to Cristal in a fun set of games ggs __________________

Nov 24th, 2012, 3:36:27 PM	#15
Cristal Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 981 Nantes, France	I won 2-1, a Psycho boost miss made it difficult for him in the last one ggs though __________________ "When I score, I don't celebrate because it's my job. When a postman delivers your letters, does he celebrate?"

Nov 25th, 2012, 3:12:19 PM	#16
WDFAmatt Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 121 'Tis a mystery.	Lost, ggs

Nov 25th, 2012, 3:13:11 PM	#17
ZoroDark Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 155 Belgium	beat NO FEAR in 2 good, haxfree games __________________ Use a Super Rod! http://chzpokememes.files.wordpress....-super-rod.gif

Nov 25th, 2012, 3:27:09 PM	#18
Myzozoa Buffalo Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,106 It could be anywhere most likely could be any frontier any hemisphere	haxed soulwind __________________ The simplicity of the ghostlike beast The purity of what he wants And where it goes Always love Always loves you Always loves with, infrared love

Nov 25th, 2012, 3:27:37 PM	#19
SoulWind majestic Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 971 Spain	Confirming, ggs and gl in the rest.

Nov 28th, 2012, 10:01:36 PM	#20
Mr.lol Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 652 complex plane	Activity post, we're in contact but having some difficulty finding a time to battle each other. EDIT: I haven't had a response from him in a VM for a while now... __________________ (15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]: Actually Deoxys-a is not the frailest uber (15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]:Its Carvanha (15:33) X-Spin: O.O What are its bases? (15:33) Dusk [DW Uber]: 45/20/20 so close to matching Deo-a's 50/20/20 (15:33) X-Spin: That's enough to wall Specs Kyogre! Great Sage is the best. Last edited by Mr.lol; Dec 1st, 2012 at 2:43:07 PM.