Best defense is a good offense

Indigo 13 · Nov 19th, 2012, 12:38:03 PM

I usually try to make balance teams but recently was messing around with this for a full offense team that doesn't require weather. Not sure how well it would work but seems like it could be a fun team. I also really like this team because except for Scrafty there all 1st gen.

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 100 Atk / 152 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Hasty
- Fire Blast
- Stone edge
- Tailwind
- Stealth Rock

Suicide lead. Sets up stealth rock and tailwind. If it still kicking it has stone edge as main attack and fire blast to hit the likes of Ferrothorn and Forretress.

Cloyster @ Kings Rock
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Hydro Pump / Rapid spin / Ice Shard

Love this guy. The flinch rate with kings rock is a lot of fun. Hydro pump is a good heavy attack rapid spin lets me clear the way if i think Cloyster is done and ice shard lets me hit scarf users and others with priority moves. Not sure with which one to go with.

Scrafty @ leftovers / Lum berry
Ability: Shed skin / Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch / Outrage

I really like his two main abilities since shed skin in large protects him for status but a lum berry can be use while moxie boost his attack to scary levels. Leaning toward moxie. His basic set uses Ice punch which is understandable but I was wondering about outrage. It would lose coverage against Gliscor but hit fighting types a bit harder.

Gengar @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Substitute
- Disable
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

Nothing special but a cool guy who helps with Scrafty and Cloysters fighting weakness.

Alakazam @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
~ Psyshock
~ Focus Blast
~ Shadow Ball
~ Substitute

Doesn't fear entry hazards thanks to it great ability and Sub allows for scouting and stopping paralysis. Besides that his mustache is truly terrifying.

Ditto @ Choice scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP
Nature: Quirky
- Transform
- move
- move
- move

Always liked this guy and sad he was so useless. Now that he isn't I have to have him on my team.

I'm sure this team has a lot of weaknesses but think there is some potential and could be pretty fun. Willing to replace some members if anyone has a suggestion but want to keep Ditto and Scrafty.

~~A dude~~ · Nov 19th, 2012, 4:08:31 PM

First thing first, Aerodactyl is not going to succeed very well unless there is no team preview. I really just want to say "No lead, you need a pokemon who can support your team when you need it," especially since Ditto is taking up that last spot. I actually really want to say that your team needs Paralysis and Rapid Spin. Starmie is a good choice for this, and should go in place of Aerodactyl, since Suicide leads only work without Team Preview (we will get to Stealth Rock in a second).

Since you have a problem with Paralysis, and you lack a Revenge Killer, it would seem logical to go Dugtrio > Gengar. Since I am going to suggest a non-suicidal SR setter quite soon, you do not have to worry about spinblocking as much as you did before. Dugtrio can also trap pokemon, so you can take it and take something like Swords Dance Terrakion out. However, do not be too Reckless with Dugtrio, as it is frail.

And now, you do not have a method of tackling Sun teams, and you need Stealth Rock, it is only logical that you go Heatran. I suggest it in the place of Alakazam, as Heatran only cares about Spikes, which Starmie can cover. Heatran's Flash Fire allows it to check threats like Ninetales, Volcarona, and the occasional Victini. It can also set up those Stealth Rocks for you.

On Cloyster, I would change his Nature from Jolly to Hasty Nature, as this gives Cloyster more power on Hydro Pump. You want to kill things, right?

On Scrafty, Shed Skin is the wisest choice as Moxie is basically, "oh come burn me!", even with the Lum Berry. And since there is Drain Punch, Life Orb would be the wisest choice. And no, do not go Outrage, as Scrafty does not get STAB out of it.

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***Delko**** · Nov 19th, 2012, 4:18:26 PM

Hi and welcome to Smogon.

Can you increase your descriptions a bit though, Scrafty's one is good so make the rest like that too.

Nov 19th, 2012, 12:38:03 PM	#1
Indigo 13 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1	Best defense is a good offense I usually try to make balance teams but recently was messing around with this for a full offense team that doesn't require weather. Not sure how well it would work but seems like it could be a fun team. I also really like this team because except for Scrafty there all 1st gen. Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash Ability: Pressure EVs: 100 Atk / 152 SpA / 252 Spe Nature: Hasty - Fire Blast - Stone edge - Tailwind - Stealth Rock Suicide lead. Sets up stealth rock and tailwind. If it still kicking it has stone edge as main attack and fire blast to hit the likes of Ferrothorn and Forretress. Cloyster @ Kings Rock Ability: Skill Link EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe Nature: Jolly - Shell Smash - Icicle Spear - Rock Blast - Hydro Pump / Rapid spin / Ice Shard Love this guy. The flinch rate with kings rock is a lot of fun. Hydro pump is a good heavy attack rapid spin lets me clear the way if i think Cloyster is done and ice shard lets me hit scarf users and others with priority moves. Not sure with which one to go with. Scrafty @ leftovers / Lum berry Ability: Shed skin / Moxie EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Nature: Jolly - Dragon Dance - Drain Punch - Crunch - Ice Punch / Outrage I really like his two main abilities since shed skin in large protects him for status but a lum berry can be use while moxie boost his attack to scary levels. Leaning toward moxie. His basic set uses Ice punch which is understandable but I was wondering about outrage. It would lose coverage against Gliscor but hit fighting types a bit harder. Gengar @ Leftovers Ability: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Nature: Timid - Substitute - Disable - Shadow Ball - Focus Blast Nothing special but a cool guy who helps with Scrafty and Cloysters fighting weakness. Alakazam @ Life Orb Ability: Magic Guard EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Nature: Timid ~ Psyshock ~ Focus Blast ~ Shadow Ball ~ Substitute Doesn't fear entry hazards thanks to it great ability and Sub allows for scouting and stopping paralysis. Besides that his mustache is truly terrifying. Ditto @ Choice scarf Ability: Imposter EVs: 252 HP Nature: Quirky - Transform - move - move - move Always liked this guy and sad he was so useless. Now that he isn't I have to have him on my team. I'm sure this team has a lot of weaknesses but think there is some potential and could be pretty fun. Willing to replace some members if anyone has a suggestion but want to keep Ditto and Scrafty.

Nov 19th, 2012, 4:08:31 PM	#2
~~A dude~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 188	First thing first, Aerodactyl is not going to succeed very well unless there is no team preview. I really just want to say "No lead, you need a pokemon who can support your team when you need it," especially since Ditto is taking up that last spot. I actually really want to say that your team needs Paralysis and Rapid Spin. Starmie is a good choice for this, and should go in place of Aerodactyl, since Suicide leads only work without Team Preview (we will get to Stealth Rock in a second). Since you have a problem with Paralysis, and you lack a Revenge Killer, it would seem logical to go Dugtrio > Gengar. Since I am going to suggest a non-suicidal SR setter quite soon, you do not have to worry about spinblocking as much as you did before. Dugtrio can also trap pokemon, so you can take it and take something like Swords Dance Terrakion out. However, do not be too Reckless with Dugtrio, as it is frail. And now, you do not have a method of tackling Sun teams, and you need Stealth Rock, it is only logical that you go Heatran. I suggest it in the place of Alakazam, as Heatran only cares about Spikes, which Starmie can cover. Heatran's Flash Fire allows it to check threats like Ninetales, Volcarona, and the occasional Victini. It can also set up those Stealth Rocks for you. On Cloyster, I would change his Nature from Jolly to Hasty Nature, as this gives Cloyster more power on Hydro Pump. You want to kill things, right? On Scrafty, Shed Skin is the wisest choice as Moxie is basically, "oh come burn me!", even with the Lum Berry. And since there is Drain Punch, Life Orb would be the wisest choice. And no, do not go Outrage, as Scrafty does not get STAB out of it. Importable Dugtrio @ Life Orb Trait: Arena Trap EVs: 252 Spd / 4 HP / 252 Atk Jolly Nature IVs: 0 SAtk - Sucker Punch - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Shadow Claw Starmie @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 SAtk Timid Nature - Rapid Spin - Recover - Thunder Wave - Psyshock Heatran @ Air Balloon / Life Orb Trait: Flash Fire EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP Timid Nature - Fire Blast - Earth Power - Stealth Rock - Hidden Power [Ice]

Nov 19th, 2012, 4:18:26 PM	#3
*Delko at the end of the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box Super Moderator** Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,962 Belgium Mentor	Hi and welcome to Smogon. Can you increase your descriptions a bit though, Scrafty's one is good so make the rest like that too.