Fakemon Galleria

[Chou Toshio]

Hey guys, welcome to the Fakemon Galleria-- the place to talk about your fakemon ideas. Are you the type who likes full creative license? Don't feel like always being restrained by the CAP process? You just want to spout out your unadultered fakemon ideas?

Well, me too.

A History:

Back in the DPP(t) days, there was no Orange Islands, so there was basically no place to talk about casual Pokemon topics. Despite this, there would frequently be attempts at fakemon topics-- usually with n00bs posting awful OPs like:

Dragon + Fighting + Huge Power 110 / 135 / 90 / 120 / 90 / 111 would be totally brokezors~~~~!!!!

These threads were obviously immediately deleted, their posters socially scorned, and fakemon topics were completely unacceptable. Beyond being generally poor quality discussion, they were regarded as "completely uncompetitive," and "completely irrelevant to real Pokemon." And thus, completely unsuitable for the elite, competitive community of Smogon (outside goofy IRC chats).

However, a few users persisted, and came up with a constructive way to talk about imaginary Pokemon. CAP was born from their efforts-- creating a structured and discussion-focused framework that would force better discussion through strict requirement of community involvement, and established the competitive Pokemon-oriented goal of learning about subtleties of Pokemon through CAP experiments.

This thread is not about any of that.

With Orange Island, there's no need to worry about filling Stark Mountain with crappy threads about Fakemon. Now, with this thread, I'd like to make a place where people can explore their fakemon ideas with pure creative license allowed by being a casual forum. :D



Rules

Yes, this thread is still in dire need of rules. We want to maintain some quality control and not make a thread full of what would have been aforementioned crappy, scorned, deleted OPs that littered Stark.

I will be strictly looking through this thread, and reporting any violations to an OI mod.

So there will be some guidelines:

1) DO NOT POST A FAKEMON WITHOUT COMMENTING ON SOMEONE ELSES

The biggest danger to the quality of this thread is becoming an endless spam of ideas with zero discussion. So, you must post feedback on someone else's idea in order to post your own.

I am enforcing this basic rule-- but really guys, to make this thread good, we need discussion about people's ideas-- not just mare more fakemon.

2) Comments should be real feedback, and/or theorymoning about how a Pokemon would perform--

3) In its specified tier. You must specify a tier you would want to see your fakemon in.

-Your Pokemon can be totally broken for the specified tier, but if it is, people are likely to just say that and not give you much more feedback.

-We will NOT assume that these fakemon will interact-- in theorymoning, only imagine the one Pokemon being discussed, and how it would interact with real Pokemon in the specified tier.

4) Really awesome fakemon with lots of content and thinking-- that fosters lots of response-- will be posted in the OP!


Otherwise, I pretty much want to give everyone free creative license.

Feel free to:
-Post Incomplete ideas and ask for feedback
-Feel Free to Post Evolutions/De-Volutions of current mons
-Whatever
-be creative-- Art / Dex descriptions are a big plus;
-Base Stats / Type / Ability / Move only is fine-- but if you can, try and develop an aesthetic concept.


That's all for the administrative stuff-- have fun with this guys; I'm looking forward to seeing your fakemons! Let's make this a nice Galleria :D

[Chou Toshio]

In any case, I need to start us off because otherwise none of you will be able to obey Rule 1, lol.

So, without further ado:



My first fakemon idea is based on the Mantis Shrimp.

About Mantis Shrimp

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The Mantis shrimp is one bad-ass mother fucker. There are multiple species, but all of them are predators that hunt by striking prey with ridiculously fast/powerful blows. Mantis shrimp's punches are clocked at over 50 MPH, one of the fastest limb movements in the animal kingdom-- made even more ridiculous by the fact that they do it underwater (with more drag). These are mean mother fuckers.

There are two basic hunting methods:

Stabbing Types: Stabbing shrimp use their strikes to ambush and seize fast moving prey like Shrimp/fish-- their claws are sharp spears further equipped more barbs and blades and other nasty sharp things. An adult stabbing shrimp can easily strike through a human hand-- embedding claw parts so deep it require surgery to remove them.

Punching Types: Punching type shrimp strike with a blow comparable in force to a bullet shot. These shrimp are notorious for breaking out of standard aquariums by punching through, and shattering the walls of their tanks. In nature, this insane punching power is used to blast through clams and other non-swimming hard-shelled prey.

But it's not just their claws-- their eyes make them special too. Mantis shrimp have been found to have some of the most sophisticated eyes in the animal kingdoms. Maybe they can't see like a hawk, but their incredibly complex compound eyes have at least 10 kinds of light receptors (while humans have a measly 3), that allow Mantis Shrimp to see infrared and ultraviolet spectra.

So, the Pokemon:

Suttoma スットマ
Intended Tier: OU

(Art Later?)

Name inspiration, Dex Info, basic building goals

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The name comes from the Japanese word "Sutto" which means "rapidly", and the latin name for Mantis shrimp, Stomapods.

Dex: Suttoma can change colors and camaflage in order to ambush prey, but will change to striking rainbow colors when fighting for territory with others. Their strikes are strikingly fast-- more rapid than almost any other punch or blow in the Pokemon kingdom. Depending on the available prey, their forelimbs will change with molting to either sharp bladed striking formes, or blunt punching smashing formes.


So, I will try an create a fakemon that builds off the big concepts around the Mantis Shrimp.
-Ridiculous striking speed
-Powerful Stabbing types
-Powerful Shashing types
-Powerful eyes

so, Suttoma will have 2 formes, a stabbing forme, and a punching forme. They will have a shared movepool.

Noteworthy Movepool:

Physical:
-Waterfall
-Crab Hammer
-Aqua Jet
-Megahorn
-X-Scissor
-U-turn
-ExtremeSpeed
-Mach Punch
-Drain Punch
-Cross Chop
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Horn Leech
-Return
-Pursuit
-Night Slash

Special
-Surf
-Signal Beam
-Ice Beam
-eh...
-Trust me, you won't care when you see the base stats...

Other
-Swords Dance
-Hone Claws
-Substitute


Suttoma: Strike Forme

Type: Water / Bug
Ability: Compound Eyes
HP: 74
ATK: 110
DEF: 105
SpA: 30
SpD: 95
SPE: 116
Total BST: 530

key thoughts/rationale

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So first, Suttoma Strike forme are fast-prey hunters, and need to be able to catch up and take out its quick, watery prey-- including Starmie. At the very least, Strike Forme has to be faster than Starmie, which puts it at 116. From there, I gave it just enough ATK to be an offensive presence. With Compound Eyes to boost its Accuracy, it will make up for its mediocre ATK by abusing high base power moves like Crab Hammer, Megahorn, Cross Chop, and Stone Edge.

I gave it minimum SpA, and threw the rest into defensive stats. With a total defensive base of 274, it's fairly bulky. I gave it higher DEF/SpD than HP in tradition with other hard-shelled Pokes like Kingler, Metagross, Ferrothorn, etc. A slight emphasis on DEF was used (as it makes more sense flavorwise), which lets Suttoma take advantage of its nice Fighting- and Ground- type resistances thanks to its Bug-type. Water-types generally prefer to be physically bulky anyway.

Sample Set:

Suttoma (Strike)
@Choice Band
-Megahorn
-Crab Hammer
-Stone Edge / Cross Chop / Close Combat
-Extremespeed / U-Turn

Suttoma (Strike)
@Choice Scarf
-Megahorn
-Crab Hammer
-Stone Edge
-U-turn / Cross Chop

Suttoma (Strike)
@Leftovers / Life Orb
-Megahorn
-Crab Hammer
-Stone Edge / Cross Chop / Substitute
-Swords Dance

So in every set, Strike form abuses Compound Eyes to throw around powerful, inaccurate attacks. Even with the boost, Megahorn has only a 91% Accuracy, but its mighty power with STAB will smash through many foes. Crab Hammer jumps up to 135 base power in rain, and will be perfectly accurate with compound eyes. Its added critical hit rate is a nice boon too! Otherwise, strike form can abuse many of its other offensive options in Choice sets, or abuse its decent bulk and Speed to set up Swords Dance and really go to town.



Suttoma: Smash Forme

Type: Water / Bug
Ability: Tinted Lens
HP: 84
ATK: 142
DEF: 110
SpA: 30
SpD: 100
SPE: 64
Total BST: 530

thoughts, rationale

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In nature, smash forme is built to blast through slower-- abusing its ridiculous ATK to rip through tough shellfish like Cloyster. In competitive Pokemon, Smash Forme is THE forme to use when looking to abuse Suttoma's awesome priority movepool. Its 142 ATK makes its priority moves devastatingly powerful. Its improved bulk makes it harder to take down, and easier to set up SD. Finally, Tinted Lens makes walling it an absolute nightmare.

It has just enough Speed to get past Jellicent and Tyranitar (or Starmie and co. with a Choice Scarf-- not that you'd care to do that... just use Strike Forme)

Sample Sets:

Suttoma (Smash)
@Leftovers / Life Orb
-ExtremeSpeed
-Aqua Jet
-Swords Dance
-Horn Leech / Drain Punch / Mach Punch

Best used in rain, this Suttoma set will wreck in the late game. Set up a Swords Dance, and go to town with Tinted Lens ExSpeed + Aqua Jet.

The last move is just for coverage, Horn Leech is just for Jellicent:

+2 252+ Atk (custom) Horn Leech vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Jellicent: 358-422 (88.83 - 104.71%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO

Though it can also be used to fuck up any Rotom-W that try to switch in.

Drain Punch is for Tyranitar and Ferrothorn (though you might just want to use Close Combat for the sure KO's on both). Mach Punch is an interesting option, but not really needed between ExSpeed and Aqua Jet with Tinted Lens.

@Choice Band
-ExtremeSpeed
-Aqua Jet
-Close Combat / Horn Leech
-U-turn / Waterfall / Horn Leech

Great abuse of Suttoma Smash's power, but without needing to set up. Horn Leech is needed for any way to touch Jellicent, but otherwise you have insane power and coverage.


So please give me comments on my mantis shrimp creation :D More fakemons to come!


edit:

So as you can see from this first post / example, we want fakemon posts that have significant content, and can create discussion. If you want to post a partial poke idea, please post some specifics on what kind of advice you'd like. As you can see, I also used hide tags to try to avoid "wall of text" syndrom--

but fakemons are fun by putting together ideas and content; more ideas and contend obviously = more fun to a lot of people, so let's try to forgive the long posts. Obviously, feedback posts need not be so long.

[Fatecrashers]

while i commend you for putting so much thought into a thread, the CAP kitchen thread already exists in CAP and it would be redundant to replicate it here

once again i remind everyone to keep the discussion in orange islands on the pokemon and games that already do exist and not imaginary ones