Moves that would've been awesome in past Gens.

KnivesInAToaster · Dec 2nd, 2012, 9:51:14 AM

I know what we're all thinking of here: what moves would've REALLY had an impact if they were in previous generations? For example, what if Draco Meteor was in ADV? Or what if Psystrike was in DPPt? I think that's a bit of an interesting thing to talk about. So many things in the metagame would be different because the Pokemon would play differently. Everything would become moot when we got to BW, but still.

And yes, this is inspired by Theorymon/Why Game Freak? Why?!

Organization Member XIV · Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:13:03 AM

Psystrike in Gen 1. Mewtwo DGAF that you have Chansey.

KnivesInAToaster · Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:22:18 AM

That's the first thing I thought of honestly. Psystrike would've broken so many things so many generations ago. Hell, even Wonder Room would've had competitive merit if it was introduced a few generations ago.

celever · Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:47:39 AM

~~Trick room in gen 1. Just imagine it, Snorlax, Blissey. They'd be ubers immediately.~~

Nope, far better: Magnet rise in gen 1! Lt. Surge would laugh at Diglett's cave! He'd go in there and KO diglett after dugtrio!

KnivesInAToaster · Dec 2nd, 2012, 11:06:50 AM

Trick Room would be interesting honestly. As for Magnet Rise... YOU ARE SADISTIC, SIR.

Strategywin · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:07:33 PM

v-create rayquaza in third gen
nuff said

TM13IceBeam · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:07:42 PM

RBY Close Combat.

Yay for Fighting moves!

Hulavuta · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:29:34 PM

Since Hyper Beam is actually usable in Generation I, is it fair to say that all of the Hyper Beam variations, (Rock Wrecker, Hydro Cannon, Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, Roar of Time, etc) would be good in Gen I?

Aside from that, any Dragon Move woulda been great, since the only Dragon move did set damage...although the only dragon was the Dragonite family,and Ice did more damage anyway.

rocky505 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:46:42 PM

Quiver dance in gen 1. Since sp def didnt exist back then. It would just raise special and speed and would get crits like crazy.

Organization Member XIV · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:57:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat rocky505

Quiver dance in gen 1. Since sp def didnt exist back then. It would just raise special and speed and would get crits like crazy.

Crits were based on BASE speed, so the crit ratio wouldn't actually rise.

ChaoticaMortis · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:04:31 PM

Would entry hazards have made a difference in Gen I? I've never played competitively, so I don't know if they'd have any real benefits or not.

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:07:23 PM

Tail Glow (with Gen 5 boost). Fuck Amnesia.

Chou Toshio · Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:52:44 PM

Magma Storm gen 1 (Fire Blast + Fire Spin anyone?)

Too bad Fire coverage sucks in gen 1.

Shadow Claw would have been way cool too-- 140 (always crits) base power attack that hits Alakazam/Starmie/etc. for super effective? (assuming the attack didn't get the lick treatment) yes please~!

chuckeroo777 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 3:30:48 PM

Focus blast
Gives the psychics something to hit chansey with. (fighting is physical)

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 4:59:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat chuckeroo777

Focus blast
Gives the psychics something to hit chansey with. (fighting is physical)

And that would accomplish? Every Psychic type in Gen 1 that can learn Focus Blast now has awful Atk.

Alice in Strings · Dec 2nd, 2012, 7:31:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

And that would accomplish? Every Psychic type in Gen 1 that can learn Focus Blast now has awful Atk.

Hypno says hi.

Anyways...

Brave Bird. Sure, recoil makes the glassy Fearow even more glassy, but it's also hitting harder. Dodrio would appreciate it, too.

Sprocket · Dec 2nd, 2012, 7:54:20 PM

Acrobatics in Gen 4.

ThePhalanx · Dec 2nd, 2012, 8:53:56 PM

Without Flying Gems?

Psyshock in any gen before 5 would make Chansey/Blissey be a hard counter to much less, and make a bunch of psychic types more viable in OU.

Hemp Man · Dec 2nd, 2012, 9:37:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

Brave Bird. Sure, recoil makes the glassy Fearow even more glassy, but it's also hitting harder. Dodrio would appreciate it, too.

Brave Bird/Earthquake/Sacred Fire/Recover HoOh in Gen 3...with no Stealth Rock, this will be one hell of an Uber to fight. SR is Special in Gen 3 but it is still gonna hurt Metagross/Skarmory anyway.

Dec 2nd, 2012, 9:51:14 AM	#1
KnivesInAToaster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14	Moves that would've been awesome in past Gens. I know what we're all thinking of here: what moves would've REALLY had an impact if they were in previous generations? For example, what if Draco Meteor was in ADV? Or what if Psystrike was in DPPt? I think that's a bit of an interesting thing to talk about. So many things in the metagame would be different because the Pokemon would play differently. Everything would become moot when we got to BW, but still. And yes, this is inspired by Theorymon/Why Game Freak? Why?! __________________ THE FIGHT IS ON! YOU'RE NOT READY YET!

Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:13:03 AM	#2
Organization Member XIV Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 610 With Xerneas, in the Garden of Eden	Psystrike in Gen 1. Mewtwo DGAF that you have Chansey. __________________ Bearkiller on PS and IRC. May also go by the name of Grima on IRC. I play League of Legends, so there's that. Also free Genesect plz. My LP.

Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:22:18 AM	#3
KnivesInAToaster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14	That's the first thing I thought of honestly. Psystrike would've broken so many things so many generations ago. Hell, even Wonder Room would've had competitive merit if it was introduced a few generations ago. __________________ THE FIGHT IS ON! YOU'RE NOT READY YET!

Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:47:39 AM	#4
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,074 I HATE COD	~~Trick room in gen 1. Just imagine it, Snorlax, Blissey. They'd be ubers immediately.~~ Nope, far better: Magnet rise in gen 1! Lt. Surge would laugh at Diglett's cave! He'd go in there and KO diglett after dugtrio! __________________ "Oh no, we're not lost it's just that we don't know where we are" - Brock 19:59 Darknesscrusher Just watch fucking porn man 19:59 Darknesscrusher Lesbo is better anyway

Dec 2nd, 2012, 11:06:50 AM	#5
KnivesInAToaster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14	Trick Room would be interesting honestly. As for Magnet Rise... YOU ARE SADISTIC, SIR. __________________ THE FIGHT IS ON! YOU'RE NOT READY YET!

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Hulavuta Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 120 Orlando, FL	Since Hyper Beam is actually usable in Generation I, is it fair to say that all of the Hyper Beam variations, (Rock Wrecker, Hydro Cannon, Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, Roar of Time, etc) would be good in Gen I? Aside from that, any Dragon Move woulda been great, since the only Dragon move did set damage...although the only dragon was the Dragonite family,and Ice did more damage anyway. __________________ Avatar by the wonderful Kadew ;D

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ChaoticaMortis Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 519 Texas	Would entry hazards have made a difference in Gen I? I've never played competitively, so I don't know if they'd have any real benefits or not.

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Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,938 Sea Forest	Magma Storm gen 1 (Fire Blast + Fire Spin anyone?) Too bad Fire coverage sucks in gen 1. Shadow Claw would have been way cool too-- 140 (always crits) base power attack that hits Alakazam/Starmie/etc. for super effective? (assuming the attack didn't get the lick treatment) yes please~! __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."

Dec 2nd, 2012, 3:30:48 PM	#14
chuckeroo777 Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 77	Focus blast Gives the psychics something to hit chansey with. (fighting is physical)

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