kokoloko
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Hi.
As you may already know, we unbanned Snow Warning from UU a few days back. Here's the situation:
1. Hail was in NU when UU first banned it.
2. Hail is pretty bad in UU at the moment because it lost almost everything it had going for it since we banned it.
3. NU (well, Zeb) doesn't want it because they believe it'll be broken due to the tier having aqcuired all the Hail-"abusing" Pokemon over the past few months.
4. RU (Oglemi) doesn't want it either, but I don't know why since like half the RU playerbase gets a boner at the very mention of Snow Warning...
Now, the problem is that if we list Snover as UU, this will make people use it more than it should be used (if anyone disagrees, take a look at Ambipom's usage in UU, Electivire's usage in DPP OU, etc). This, I fear, could lead to it never dropping into the tier it should really be in.
My proposed solution is to drop it into RU (where I theorize it would end up if people were smart and didn't use Pokemon in UU just because they are listed as such). This evades the problem of lagging the potential (and probable, imo) ascension of the Hail-abusing Pokemon from NU into RU, and to be quite frank makes the most sense from a purely practical point of view.
However, what I think is the "correct" thing to do here is to drop it into NU tbh. That's where it was when we first banned it, and if it proves to be too strong for the tier, then they can ban it. Same for RU. And I'm sure a few of the other NU mods wouldn't mind it (specifically Django, since he's the one I talk to the most).
So... what do?
As you may already know, we unbanned Snow Warning from UU a few days back. Here's the situation:
1. Hail was in NU when UU first banned it.
2. Hail is pretty bad in UU at the moment because it lost almost everything it had going for it since we banned it.
3. NU (well, Zeb) doesn't want it because they believe it'll be broken due to the tier having aqcuired all the Hail-"abusing" Pokemon over the past few months.
4. RU (Oglemi) doesn't want it either, but I don't know why since like half the RU playerbase gets a boner at the very mention of Snow Warning...
Now, the problem is that if we list Snover as UU, this will make people use it more than it should be used (if anyone disagrees, take a look at Ambipom's usage in UU, Electivire's usage in DPP OU, etc). This, I fear, could lead to it never dropping into the tier it should really be in.
My proposed solution is to drop it into RU (where I theorize it would end up if people were smart and didn't use Pokemon in UU just because they are listed as such). This evades the problem of lagging the potential (and probable, imo) ascension of the Hail-abusing Pokemon from NU into RU, and to be quite frank makes the most sense from a purely practical point of view.
However, what I think is the "correct" thing to do here is to drop it into NU tbh. That's where it was when we first banned it, and if it proves to be too strong for the tier, then they can ban it. Same for RU. And I'm sure a few of the other NU mods wouldn't mind it (specifically Django, since he's the one I talk to the most).
So... what do?