Pokemon Storm Silver / Sacred Gold ingame discussion / tiering.

thesynchrohero · Mar 24th, 2013, 3:05:25 PM

There are 2 game names in the title because they are hacks of Soulsilver and Heartgold, and are the same as volt white and blaze black in principle, but actually aren't.

First things first, self-aware Professor Oak / Player's Mom, Early 60Bp Stab moves, and early Lotad / tailow / seedot / wurmple (holder of the 60 bp stab) / eevee rule. Second, Early super effective moves sucks.

I don't think Chikorita will be as good in this as in the regular because there are some really close calls, peck and bug bite to name some.

Jean mi · Mar 24th, 2013, 6:25:53 PM

I did a mono-water run of this game and it was awesome !

My team was :

Lapras
Ludicolo
Poliwrath (with drain punch and belly drum)
Sharpedo (with speed boost)
Swampert
Pelliper (it gets air slash and is a bit stronger)

You get a stone that evolves your eevee very early, at the end of bellsprout tower so you can have a powerful pokemon from the start. You can also use this stone for another pokemon that eeven such as lombre.

Moves are updated like in 5th gen : giga drain and drain punch have 75 BP for example. Some pokemon can have their hidden ability such as technician breloom !

Starters are easy to get : just answer a quizz in pokemon centers ;). You just get one from the 3 of the same region though but they are easy-to-get powerful pokemon ;).

thesynchrohero · Mar 28th, 2013, 5:32:52 AM

I started the game and was blowing through it (OMG EEVEE FOR UBERS) and after chikorita (Or was it Tailow, or Seedot or maybe Lotad) and the player character turned into yellow missingno like squares, I battled a Weedle and afterwords the game went blank.

Jean mi · Mar 28th, 2013, 5:37:26 AM

There are glitches like that in this game due to the original roms being unstable.

As soon as you see a graphical glitch, don't move or anything, save and reset, the glitch is fixed ;). It happens time to time unfortunately. I recommend you to save regularly in case the game freezes so you don't lose much time.

Antihaxxer · Mar 28th, 2013, 12:20:50 PM

I will try a run (I didn't finish the Emerald one, neither the Platinum one :()

What are the changes with HGSS ?

Jean mi · Mar 28th, 2013, 4:08:20 PM

What are the changes with HGSS ?[/QUOTE]

All pokemon from the first 4 generations are available before the Elite 4 (with a few exceptions), most pokemon have been edited : their movesets, abilities or even typing has been changed. When you download the package, you also get the documentation about the changes.
Changes are usually made so weaker pokemon gets stronger. Pokemon like Ledian or Delibird become viable.
You don't need to trade to evolve the pokemon that usually require trading, they evolve from another way.

Some moves have been edited as well and they're updated to the 5th gen (drain punch and giga drain have 75 BP for example).
Some TMs are available sooner, some shops have been edited as well.

ALL important trainers (gym leaders, rocket admins etc) have a team of 6 powerful pokemon, don't underestimate them !

There are some changes in the storyline, some funny new stuff.

I guess that's it, enjoy, it's a very fun hack ^^.

Antihaxxer · Mar 28th, 2013, 5:07:04 PM

Sounds sexy :D

BdB4445 · Mar 29th, 2013, 9:21:25 AM

Awesome, smogon finally gave in to how awesome the pokemon hacks are.

My game fucked up on me at around the 2nd gym (the sprite glitch issue + some issue where the game wouldn't load up for me upon booting), so I couldn't save and reset successfully.

I am considering on starting a new game in light of this thread; it sparks my interest. If it's convenient enough, this is the team I'm considering:

-Gyarados or vaporeon
-Electivire (now has a fighting secondary typing)
-Scizor
-Typhlosion
-Alakazam (Aura Sphere at around 52 I think, or else Espeon)
-Torterra or Leafeon

I haven't gotten to try the Gyaravire combo before, so now sounds like a good time.

I hope a thread gets put up for BB/VW 1 (I unfortunately played the clean version) or even Bloody Platinum, because I could tier my team for both of those.

ALSO, just a hint for the people who use the given AR codes. You can rebattle the trainers that would ordinarily call you on a specific day, using the code, and they'll give you the item they normally promise. I haven't played through the entire game obviously, but the first person you battle gives you an HP up every time you RE-battle, and there should be a couple other trainers along the road that give you a Carbos or a Calcium. I am not quite sure if any trainers give you a Protein. It can all be looked up since it pertains to the normal game.

I'm just throwing it out there because it is great for racking up easy money or more importantly EV's, for those who want to play through the game more conveniently.

Edit: I swear, every thread I touch dies.

Antihaxxer · Apr 1st, 2013, 11:00:13 AM

I started the game ... Did you manager to catch Unown ? because I can't manage to tap the pieces in the fossil game (how do you do on an Emulator ? I try to double tap with my mouse, but nothing happens)

Mar 24th, 2013, 3:05:25 PM	#1
thesynchrohero Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 180	Pokemon Storm Silver / Sacred Gold ingame discussion / tiering. There are 2 game names in the title because they are hacks of Soulsilver and Heartgold, and are the same as volt white and blaze black in principle, but actually aren't. First things first, self-aware Professor Oak / Player's Mom, Early 60Bp Stab moves, and early Lotad / tailow / seedot / wurmple (holder of the 60 bp stab) / eevee rule. Second, Early super effective moves sucks. I don't think Chikorita will be as good in this as in the regular because there are some really close calls, peck and bug bite to name some.

Mar 29th, 2013, 9:21:25 AM	#8
BdB4445 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 52	Awesome, smogon finally gave in to how awesome the pokemon hacks are. My game fucked up on me at around the 2nd gym (the sprite glitch issue + some issue where the game wouldn't load up for me upon booting), so I couldn't save and reset successfully. I am considering on starting a new game in light of this thread; it sparks my interest. If it's convenient enough, this is the team I'm considering: -Gyarados or vaporeon -Electivire (now has a fighting secondary typing) -Scizor -Typhlosion -Alakazam (Aura Sphere at around 52 I think, or else Espeon) -Torterra or Leafeon I haven't gotten to try the Gyaravire combo before, so now sounds like a good time. I hope a thread gets put up for BB/VW 1 (I unfortunately played the clean version) or even Bloody Platinum, because I could tier my team for both of those. ALSO, just a hint for the people who use the given AR codes. You can rebattle the trainers that would ordinarily call you on a specific day, using the code, and they'll give you the item they normally promise. I haven't played through the entire game obviously, but the first person you battle gives you an HP up every time you RE-battle, and there should be a couple other trainers along the road that give you a Carbos or a Calcium. I am not quite sure if any trainers give you a Protein. It can all be looked up since it pertains to the normal game. I'm just throwing it out there because it is great for racking up easy money or more importantly EV's, for those who want to play through the game more conveniently. Edit: I swear, every thread I touch dies. Last edited by BdB4445; Mar 31st, 2013 at 11:06:22 PM.

Mar 24th, 2013, 6:25:53 PM	#2
Jean mi Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 131 France, land of X&Y	I did a mono-water run of this game and it was awesome ! My team was : Lapras Ludicolo Poliwrath (with drain punch and belly drum) Sharpedo (with speed boost) Swampert Pelliper (it gets air slash and is a bit stronger) You get a stone that evolves your eevee very early, at the end of bellsprout tower so you can have a powerful pokemon from the start. You can also use this stone for another pokemon that eeven such as lombre. Moves are updated like in 5th gen : giga drain and drain punch have 75 BP for example. Some pokemon can have their hidden ability such as technician breloom ! Starters are easy to get : just answer a quizz in pokemon centers ;). You just get one from the 3 of the same region though but they are easy-to-get powerful pokemon ;).

Mar 28th, 2013, 5:32:52 AM	#3
thesynchrohero Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 180	I started the game and was blowing through it (OMG EEVEE FOR UBERS) and after chikorita (Or was it Tailow, or Seedot or maybe Lotad) and the player character turned into yellow missingno like squares, I battled a Weedle and afterwords the game went blank.

Mar 28th, 2013, 5:37:26 AM	#4
Jean mi Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 131 France, land of X&Y	There are glitches like that in this game due to the original roms being unstable. As soon as you see a graphical glitch, don't move or anything, save and reset, the glitch is fixed ;). It happens time to time unfortunately. I recommend you to save regularly in case the game freezes so you don't lose much time.

Mar 28th, 2013, 12:20:50 PM	#5
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	I will try a run (I didn't finish the Emerald one, neither the Platinum one :() What are the changes with HGSS ?

Mar 28th, 2013, 4:08:20 PM	#6
Jean mi Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 131 France, land of X&Y	What are the changes with HGSS ?[/QUOTE] All pokemon from the first 4 generations are available before the Elite 4 (with a few exceptions), most pokemon have been edited : their movesets, abilities or even typing has been changed. When you download the package, you also get the documentation about the changes. Changes are usually made so weaker pokemon gets stronger. Pokemon like Ledian or Delibird become viable. You don't need to trade to evolve the pokemon that usually require trading, they evolve from another way. Some moves have been edited as well and they're updated to the 5th gen (drain punch and giga drain have 75 BP for example). Some TMs are available sooner, some shops have been edited as well. ALL important trainers (gym leaders, rocket admins etc) have a team of 6 powerful pokemon, don't underestimate them ! There are some changes in the storyline, some funny new stuff. I guess that's it, enjoy, it's a very fun hack ^^.

Mar 28th, 2013, 5:07:04 PM	#7
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	Sounds sexy :D

Apr 1st, 2013, 11:00:13 AM	#9
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	I started the game ... Did you manager to catch Unown ? because I can't manage to tap the pieces in the fossil game (how do you do on an Emulator ? I try to double tap with my mouse, but nothing happens)