Set Piece Battles - NEW SPB

Poppy · Dec 9th, 2012, 1:28:07 AM

Team 1
Weather: Sun
Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock

@ Light Clay (32% HP)
Pressure
Timid 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
-Spikes
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Taunt

@ Custap Berry (48% HP)
Sturdy
Sassy 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock
-Toxic Spikes

@ Life Orb (50% HP)
Pressure
Timid 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Psystrike
-Ice Beam
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind

Team 2
Weather: Sun
Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock

@ Choice Scarf (26% HP)
Turboblaze
Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam
-Fusion Flare
-Dragon Pulse

@ Life Orb (24% HP)
Multitype
Adamant 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
-ExtremeSpeed
-Shadow Claw
-Flamethrower
-Swords Dance

@ Life Orb (22.5% HP)
TerraVoltage
Lonely
-Draco Meteor
-Bolt Strike
-Outrage
-Volt Switch

Set Piece Battle #1

jonathanrp · Dec 9th, 2012, 1:55:03 AM

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Poppy · Dec 9th, 2012, 2:16:55 AM

what if surf crits you

**Tobes** · Dec 9th, 2012, 2:17:19 AM

Don't open if you're still working on it

Poppy I hadn't forgotten about this I swear I was definitely going to do it! :(

The path to a victory is Giratina-O's Shadow Sneak. It will OHKO Latios, as well as Mewtwo after Stealth Rock. The only threat to it is Tyranitar's sand, so the strategy we execute should be focused on removing sand from the equation. There is no other viable alternative, as Rayquaza has no set-up opportunities.

We should switch to Rayquaza as our first move.

If Latios Dragon Pulses, Forretress can be brought in after Rayquaza dies with Sturdy intact and not risk the 2HKO from Surf + Thunder (if Forretress is brought in on the Surf and the opponent is aware that sand is their only means of killing Giratina-O, they will go for the 70% chance to give them the best chance of Tyranitar's survival.)
If Latios does anything else, Rayquaza forces it to go for the KO next turn or ~~be killed by Outrage~~ risk Rayquaza setting up Dragon Dance and sweeping. Tyranitar will not come in no matter what due to Stealth Rock, so as long as Forretress's Sturdy is intact the confusion from Outrage is utterly inconsequential.
If the opponent switches to Mewtwo, they probably get swept by +1 Outrage. The only reason they might switch to Mewtwo is to go for the Ice Beam freeze on Forretress as it's statistically their best chance to stop Spikes.
Tyranitar definitely won't switch in, as it can only switch into Stealth Rock once.

Once Rayquaza is dead, Forretress can be brought in on full HP. It should set Spikes.

Latios is inconsequential. Once the Spikes are up, Tyranitar is incapable of setting sand, completing our objective. Cute use of Lum Berry here to ensure we don't get para + full para'd or frozen by Mewtwo's Ice Beam.
A switch to Mewtwo accomplishes nothing.
If they bring in Tyranitar to set up sand, then our primary goal has been achieved. It can no longer survive a switch into Stealth Rock, and rain will be set by Kyogre. Forretress can just sit there spamming Rapid Spin if we don't know Tyranitar's moveset, or Volt Switch if we do. Either by death or by Volt Switch, Kyogre becomes our switch-in. With sand now permanetly removed, it can spam Surf or Ice Beam or Thunder or whatever until it's dead, it really doesn't matter.

Once sand is no longer a factor, Giratina-O cleans up.

Melee Mewtwo · Dec 9th, 2012, 6:34:29 AM

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Faint · Dec 9th, 2012, 1:19:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Melee Mewtwo

Wait..... Tyranitar has a SR resist.

No it doesn't.

jackm · Dec 9th, 2012, 2:28:56 PM

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syrim · Dec 10th, 2012, 2:27:04 AM

just to note unless someone used sunny day or another manual weather move then stalled for 5 turns, having no weather up at this point in the match would be impossible.

Poppy · Dec 10th, 2012, 3:19:07 AM

there was a hail tentacruel but u didnt see it

jackm · Dec 10th, 2012, 9:23:26 PM

^ Good point Syrim. Even better retort.

Anyways, I know I've already posted my solution but I have a question; is this thread going to be used for multiple set piece challenges and if so, how often will they be posted?

Lunar Fist · Dec 16th, 2012, 1:16:59 PM

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bygbyrd · Jan 9th, 2013, 7:47:10 PM

I would love to see another one of these. If you don't have time, Poppy, maybe someone else could write one ?

**Tobes** · Jan 12th, 2013, 7:50:17 AM

New SPB! How can Team 1 win, guaranteed?

Team 1
Weather: Sun
Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock

@ Light Clay (32% HP) **IS OUT**
Pressure
Timid 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
-Spikes
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Taunt

@ Custap Berry (48% HP)
Sturdy
Sassy 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock
-Toxic Spikes

@ Life Orb (50% HP)
Pressure
Timid 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Psystrike
-Ice Beam
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind

Team 2
Weather: Sun
Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock

@ Choice Scarf (26% HP) **IS OUT**
Turboblaze
Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam
-Fusion Flare
-Dragon Pulse

@ Life Orb (24% HP)
Multitype
Adamant 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
-ExtremeSpeed
-Shadow Claw
-Flamethrower
-Swords Dance

@ Life Orb (22.5% HP)
Teravolt
Naughty 136 Atk / 252 SpA / 120 Spe
Lonely
-Draco Meteor
-Bolt Strike
-Outrage
-Volt Switch

Poppy · Jan 12th, 2013, 8:19:54 AM

to clarify, the leads cannot be decided, as i thought would be obvious from the fact that it isn't the start of the battle.

have another go =]

ClubbingSealCub · Jan 12th, 2013, 8:43:08 AM

Zekrom is missing its EV spread, by the way.

my thoughts

**Furai** · Jan 12th, 2013, 9:15:39 AM

Guys, please submit any of your thoughts and solutions in [HIDE] tags to not ruin the challenge for others!

PT8Sceptile · Jan 12th, 2013, 9:18:32 AM

Let's see if this is correct:

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**trickroom** · Jan 12th, 2013, 9:18:46 AM

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I am dumb and I am not sharing. Man Furry sucks for editing my post.

Organization Member XIV · Jan 12th, 2013, 9:32:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat PT8Sceptile

Let's see if this is correct:

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This is right.

Melee Mewtwo · Jan 12th, 2013, 11:07:54 AM

It's still Team 1 that has to win right?

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ClubbingSealCub · Jan 15th, 2013, 11:52:24 AM

Woah, grats to PST8 Sceptile. That's actually pretty genius.

~~blitzlefan~~ · Jan 15th, 2013, 7:55:56 PM

yeah... damn... good job PT8Sceptile!

Faint · Jan 15th, 2013, 9:01:58 PM

Poppy, out of curiosity, how do you come up with these?

do you have matches similar to this, or do you make them up knowing that there is generally only one chance one of the teams can win? just curious, hopefully you can explain.

relaunched · Jan 16th, 2013, 2:04:56 AM

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Poppy · Jan 16th, 2013, 5:50:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Faint

Poppy, out of curiosity, how do you come up with these?

do you have matches similar to this, or do you make them up knowing that there is generally only one chance one of the teams can win? just curious, hopefully you can explain.

think up of them off the top off my head. i manufacture the win condition then build up from there. fyi tobes' one is based off of my idea =]

Dec 9th, 2012, 1:55:03 AM	#2
jonathanrp I saw the report with her testimony, but who knew that under that helmet... it was the wicked witch of the witness stand!? Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 640 By my hand, I will reveal the precious gem of truth!	... I would switch gira-o out and send out rayquaza. I would allow the latios to KO rayquaza, and then send in forretress. I would set up spikes with forretress. I should only need 2 layers to finish off the rest of the team. 252 SpA Soul Dew Latios Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 153-180 (43.22 - 50.84%) -- guaranteed 3HKO assuming that latios CM's instead of attacking, I could feasibly get 2-3 layers of spikes up. I would allow latios to take out forretress. I would then revenge latios with shadow sneak from giratina-o. I would then allow hazards + shadow sneak to finish off the remainder of his team. If he were to switch out latios, I would not do anything differently. I would set up spikes on either ttar or mewtwo. The only difference with ttar is that I would send in kyogre to remove sand, then finish the job with gira-o. Last edited by jonathanrp; Dec 9th, 2012 at 2:41:54 AM.

Dec 9th, 2012, 2:16:55 AM	#3
Poppy SYMPTOMATIC OF A GREATER ILL Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,420 brisbane	what if surf crits you __________________ erotically erudite Last edited by Furai; Dec 9th, 2012 at 3:09:01 AM. Reason: god poppy no need to shout

Dec 9th, 2012, 2:17:19 AM	#4
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,246 GONER	Don't open if you're still working on it Poppy I hadn't forgotten about this I swear I was definitely going to do it! :( The path to a victory is Giratina-O's Shadow Sneak. It will OHKO Latios, as well as Mewtwo after Stealth Rock. The only threat to it is Tyranitar's sand, so the strategy we execute should be focused on removing sand from the equation. There is no other viable alternative, as Rayquaza has no set-up opportunities. We should switch to Rayquaza as our first move. If Latios Dragon Pulses, Forretress can be brought in after Rayquaza dies with Sturdy intact and not risk the 2HKO from Surf + Thunder (if Forretress is brought in on the Surf and the opponent is aware that sand is their only means of killing Giratina-O, they will go for the 70% chance to give them the best chance of Tyranitar's survival.) If Latios does anything else, Rayquaza forces it to go for the KO next turn or ~~be killed by Outrage~~ risk Rayquaza setting up Dragon Dance and sweeping. Tyranitar will not come in no matter what due to Stealth Rock, so as long as Forretress's Sturdy is intact the confusion from Outrage is utterly inconsequential. If the opponent switches to Mewtwo, they probably get swept by +1 Outrage. The only reason they might switch to Mewtwo is to go for the Ice Beam freeze on Forretress as it's statistically their best chance to stop Spikes. Tyranitar definitely won't switch in, as it can only switch into Stealth Rock once. Once Rayquaza is dead, Forretress can be brought in on full HP. It should set Spikes. Latios is inconsequential. Once the Spikes are up, Tyranitar is incapable of setting sand, completing our objective. Cute use of Lum Berry here to ensure we don't get para + full para'd or frozen by Mewtwo's Ice Beam. A switch to Mewtwo accomplishes nothing. If they bring in Tyranitar to set up sand, then our primary goal has been achieved. It can no longer survive a switch into Stealth Rock, and rain will be set by Kyogre. Forretress can just sit there spamming Rapid Spin if we don't know Tyranitar's moveset, or Volt Switch if we do. Either by death or by Volt Switch, Kyogre becomes our switch-in. With sand now permanetly removed, it can spam Surf or Ice Beam or Thunder or whatever until it's dead, it really doesn't matter. Once sand is no longer a factor, Giratina-O cleans up. __________________ Last edited by Tobes; Dec 10th, 2012 at 8:28:50 AM.

Dec 9th, 2012, 6:34:29 AM	#5
Melee Mewtwo Dat Lugiass Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 645 France	... Okay, so I need to keep Giratina so that I can Shadow Sneak Mewtwo and Latios. However, with Tyranitar around he can be revenge killed by Sandstorm. Luckily, Tyranitar is weakened so if I get hazards up I can take it out before it becomes a threat. Ray is to slow too sweep and can't set up a DD anywhere so he is death fodder. I need to get Forry in so I can start setting up Spikes. Turn 1: Switch to Ray Okay now Latios could have either weakened Ray with Thunder or Surf, OHKO with Dpulse or set up with CM. If Ray is still alive Latios will need to kill me or risk being swept. Just in case I'm playing a stupid OP, I'll go ahead and DD so I can get a sweep in. Most likely Ray will be dead at the end of the turn so I'll take advantage of that to bring in a full health Forry and set up Spikes. Turn 2: Ray dies while DDing I bring in Forry. Worst case scenario, Latios is at +1/+1. Either way, Forry's Sturdy makes sure I get Spikes up so lets do that. Turn 3: Forry spikes Either Latios does something stupid and lets me set up another turn of Spikes or it does the smart thing and Surfs. Either way, I'm going to try to Spike again in case it does something stupid. Turn 4: Forry dies while trying to Spike again. Wait..... Tyranitar has a SR resist. That means I need to force it in at least once on SR before it dies to SR + Spikes otherwise it will just scrap itself on my Shadow Sneak and bring Tina with it. There is nothing that forces Tyranitar in as Latios has no reason to want to switch out as it can only die to Tina's Sneak. I'm not seeing how to beat this...

Dec 9th, 2012, 2:28:56 PM	#7
jackm Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 330 Seattle	... Turn 1: Giratina-O (4%) vs. Latios (56%). Move: Switch to Rayquaza. The most probable (by a longshot) move of the opponent on Turn 1 is to use Dagon Pulse to OHKO Rayquaza. You then bring in Forretress off of the KO. Turn 2: Forretress (100%) vs. Latios (56%). Move: Use Spikes. The opponent will almost guaranteedly make one of three moves: Use Surf. There's a slim chance that Surf will 2HKO, but it's irrelevant. You have the Spikes up that you need. If it doesn't 2HKO, you need to burn a turn with Forretress out; setting up more Spikes is pointless (no pun intended) because Giratina-O can OHKO Mewtwo and Latios with ease now that Tyranitar is dead weight. Use Calm Mind. For the reasons stated above, let em' set up. It doesn't really matter how many boosts they get, because as soon as they decide to KO Forretress Giratina-O can pick them off with Shadow Sneak. Switch to Tyranitar to get sand up. Gyro Ball as they attack with Fire Blast, then sack Forretress against the next thing they bring in. This enables you to switch in Kyogre with impunity, allowing you to change the weather back to rain. Turns 3 and onward: Follow the instructions pertaining to each scenario in turn 2. Once you have Stealth Rock and Spikes up (assuming you have control of the weather), Giratina-O can be brought in off of either Kyogre's or Forretress's death to KO Mewtwo and Latias with Shadow Sneak; because you have enough hazards to deal 25% to Tyranitar upon switching in, your opponent can no longer change the weather.

Dec 9th, 2012, 1:28:07 AM	#1
Poppy SYMPTOMATIC OF A GREATER ILL Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,420 brisbane	Set Piece Battles - NEW SPB Team 1 Weather: Sun Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock @ Light Clay (32% HP) Pressure Timid 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe -Spikes -Reflect -Light Screen -Taunt @ Custap Berry (48% HP) Sturdy Sassy 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD -Gyro Ball -Rapid Spin -Stealth Rock -Toxic Spikes @ Life Orb (50% HP) Pressure Timid 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Psystrike -Ice Beam -Aura Sphere -Calm Mind Team 2 Weather: Sun Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock @ Choice Scarf (26% HP) Turboblaze Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Draco Meteor -Ice Beam -Fusion Flare -Dragon Pulse @ Life Orb (24% HP) Multitype Adamant 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe -ExtremeSpeed -Shadow Claw -Flamethrower -Swords Dance @ Life Orb (22.5% HP) TerraVoltage Lonely -Draco Meteor -Bolt Strike -Outrage -Volt Switch Set Piece Battle #1 Team 1 Weather: None Entry hazards affecting team: None @ Griseous Orb - 4% HP Levitate Naughty 248 Atk / 252 SpA / 8 Spe - Draco Meteor - Shadow Sneak - Dragon Tail - Outrage @ Lum Berry - 100% HP Sturdy Sassy 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD - Spikes - Rapid Spin - Volt Switch - Toxic @ Life Orb – 84% HP Air Lock Mild 40 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe - Draco Meteor - Outrage - Fire Blast - Dragon Dance @ Choice Specs – 2% HP Drizzle Modest 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA - Water Spout - Ice Beam - Thunder - Surf Team 2 Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock @ Soul Dew – 56% HP Levitate Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe - Calm Mind - Dragon Pulse - Thunder - Surf @ Life Orb - 70% HP Pressure Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe - Psystrike - Ice Beam - Aura Sphere - Calm Mind @ Lum Berry – 22% HP Sand Stream Sassy 252 HP / 76 Atk / 180 SpD - Crunch - Stone Edge - Pursuit - Fire Blast Scenario: No current weather. Giratina-O is out vs Latios, Stealth Rock is on your opponent's field. Latios is Calm Mind + Dragon Pulse + Thunder + Surf / Mewtwo is standard LO + CM with Ice Beam, Psystrike, and Aura Sphere / Tyranitar is 0 Speed Lum Berry with Fire Blast / Crunch / Stone Edge / Pursuit Giratina-O is standard mixed attacker with Draco Meteor + Shadow Sneak + Dragon Tail + Outrage / Rayquaza is mixed DD with Draco / Outrage / Fire Blast / DD / Forretress is Lum Berry with Spikes / Rapid Spin / Volt Switch / Toxic. Kyogre is 0 speed Choice Specs with Max HP Water Spout / Surf / Thunder Ice Beam. How can team Giratina-O win for certain? Have fun. __________________ erotically erudite Last edited by Tobes; Jan 12th, 2013 at 7:48:40 AM.

Dec 10th, 2012, 2:27:04 AM	#8
syrim 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 Mentor	just to note unless someone used sunny day or another manual weather move then stalled for 5 turns, having no weather up at this point in the match would be impossible. __________________ x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 x1x1x1x1

Dec 10th, 2012, 3:19:07 AM	#9
Poppy SYMPTOMATIC OF A GREATER ILL Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,420 brisbane	there was a hail tentacruel but u didnt see it __________________ erotically erudite

Dec 10th, 2012, 9:23:26 PM	#10
jackm Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 330 Seattle	^ Good point Syrim. Even better retort. Anyways, I know I've already posted my solution but I have a question; is this thread going to be used for multiple set piece challenges and if so, how often will they be posted?

Dec 16th, 2012, 1:16:59 PM	#11
Lunar Fist Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 76 Out There	... I would: 1. Switch to Rayquaza, sac it to Latios or Mewtwo 2. Send in Forretress w/Sturdy, I can get at least one layer of spikes. All pokemon die to shadow sneak after SR+Spikes and T-tar can't change the weather since it dies to SR+Spikes. 3. Attempt to volt switch after 1 layer. Send in Kyogre to stop sand (if necessary) or just send in Giratina-o and clean with shadow sneak. When Kyogre dies, send in Giratina-o.

Jan 9th, 2013, 7:47:10 PM	#12
bygbyrd Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 44 Ubers all day	I would love to see another one of these. If you don't have time, Poppy, maybe someone else could write one ? __________________ If you embrace the hax, you can control it. -PokeaimMD

Jan 12th, 2013, 7:50:17 AM	#13
Tobes Woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,246 GONER	New SPB! How can Team 1 win, guaranteed? Team 1 Weather: Sun Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock @ Light Clay (32% HP) IS OUT Pressure Timid 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe -Spikes -Reflect -Light Screen -Taunt @ Custap Berry (48% HP) Sturdy Sassy 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD -Gyro Ball -Rapid Spin -Stealth Rock -Toxic Spikes @ Life Orb (50% HP) Pressure Timid 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Psystrike -Ice Beam -Aura Sphere -Calm Mind Team 2 Weather: Sun Entry Hazards affecting team: Stealth Rock @ Choice Scarf (26% HP) IS OUT Turboblaze Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe -Draco Meteor -Ice Beam -Fusion Flare -Dragon Pulse @ Life Orb (24% HP) Multitype Adamant 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe -ExtremeSpeed -Shadow Claw -Flamethrower -Swords Dance @ Life Orb (22.5% HP) Teravolt Naughty 136 Atk / 252 SpA / 120 Spe Lonely -Draco Meteor -Bolt Strike -Outrage -Volt Switch __________________ Last edited by Poppy; Jan 12th, 2013 at 8:44:56 AM.

Jan 12th, 2013, 8:19:54 AM	#14
Poppy SYMPTOMATIC OF A GREATER ILL Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,420 brisbane	to clarify, the leads cannot be decided, as i thought would be obvious from the fact that it isn't the start of the battle. have another go =] __________________ erotically erudite

Jan 12th, 2013, 8:43:08 AM	#15
ClubbingSealCub Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 385 Spheal @ Thick Club	Zekrom is missing its EV spread, by the way. my thoughts Team 2 only has to spam Fusion Flare since it OHKOes every member of Team 1. If Team 1 sets up spikes instead of LS, then the entirety of T2 will die to hazards (and LO recoil in the case of arceus) but then you'd have no way to force Kyu-W out. The only thing that can kill Kyw-W is Mewtwo behind a Light Screen, but if Kyu-W stays in and attacks, Mewtwo will die to LO recoil and there's no way Foretress can take both Zekrom and Arceus alone. Pretty tough nut to crack, IMO. I don't see how T1 can possibly win aside from a big fuck up on T2's side. __________________ RMT: Dune Walkers - Featuring Sandslash Tobes: Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me. Last edited by Furai; Jan 12th, 2013 at 9:15:12 AM.

Jan 12th, 2013, 9:15:39 AM	#16
Furai standing in the eye of the hurricane Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,079	Guys, please submit any of your thoughts and solutions in [HIDE] tags to not ruin the challenge for others! __________________ *#gohard* \| Wolfpack (Ubers RMT)

Jan 12th, 2013, 9:18:32 AM	#17
PT8Sceptile Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 21	Let's see if this is correct: ... Deoxys is faster than Scarf KyuW, so it gets to spike on turn one. Once spikes are down, SR+spikes will instantly KO everything Team 2 has upon switching in (KyuW takes 37,5% due to SR weak, others 25%). In addition, if the opponent switches in Zekrom or Arceus, they will be left with less than 20% after SR, so their own life orb will KO them before they get 3 KOs. So the only relevant case is that KyuW stays in. Fusion flare, however, OHKOes everything on Team 1, so T1 has to: - Sac Deoxys-S. This probably happens on the spiking turn. - Bring Forry in on the KO, taking 12,5% from SR. - Switch to Mewtwo and sac it. - Bring Forry back in on the KO to take 12,5% from SR - Now Forry is at around 23%, so Custap activates and you can SE Gyro Ball for the KO.

Jan 12th, 2013, 11:07:54 AM	#20
Melee Mewtwo Dat Lugiass Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 645 France	It's still Team 1 that has to win right? ... With SR + Spikes done nothing on Team 2 can switch in without fainting so that is definitely the move to make. Depending on the Pokemon chosen by Team 2 to be kept alive by bringing it in before Spikes (or keeping in Kyruem) Mewtwo or Forry (Forry tanks Choice locked dragon attacks) can revenge kill while Deo makes sure that a EKiller switch in doesn't set up a sweep by taunting it before it can SD.

Jan 15th, 2013, 11:52:24 AM	#21
ClubbingSealCub Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 385 Spheal @ Thick Club	Woah, grats to PST8 Sceptile. That's actually pretty genius. __________________ RMT: Dune Walkers - Featuring Sandslash Tobes: Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me.

Jan 15th, 2013, 7:55:56 PM	#22
~~blitzlefan~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 549 Texas	yeah... damn... good job PT8Sceptile!

Jan 15th, 2013, 9:01:58 PM	#23
Faint Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 922 Boston, MA	Poppy, out of curiosity, how do you come up with these? do you have matches similar to this, or do you make them up knowing that there is generally only one chance one of the teams can win? just curious, hopefully you can explain.

Jan 16th, 2013, 2:04:56 AM	#24
relaunched Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 203	... Deoxys-S outspeeds Kyurem-W and sets up spikes. Now if any of Player 2's Pokemon hits the battlefield, they die instantly, meaning Player 2's will only be able to attack with one Pokémon. If Kyurem-W stays in and kills Deoxys-S, go to Forretress. Immediately double switch and sac Mewtwo. Bring in Forretress, activating Custap Berry upon second exposure to Stealth Rock. Gyro Ball Kyurem-W for the win. If Player 2 switches out, neither Arceus nor Zekrom has enough juice to take out three pokes with the Life Orb. __________________ It's not me, it's my bad body double. GP team, message me for a check.