Do you guys think Eviolite Jigglypuff could work for the VGC?

Unowninator · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:36:46 PM

I've been thinking about using one for supporting my allies with Friend Guard. I looked through its movepool and I found that it can learn Light Screen, Reflect, Safeguard, Helping Hand, Thunder Wave, and Pain Split. It could even hide behind Protect to keep itself alive if necessary while its ally takes less damage thanks to Friend Guard. What are your thoughts? Could Jigglypuff work?

Stalltaria · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:39:51 PM

Have you thought about Clefairy?
It has a similar, if not a better and more reliable movepool, the same ability, and access to Eviolite.

And 70/48/65 in bulk, instead of 115/20/25

Dusk209 · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:46:17 PM

you're probably better off using a dual screener or a follow me user - they do the same job of helping their teammate survive, but they actually have nice stats and the ability to use good items. If you REALLY want to use this strategy, I would second Stalltaria's suggestion of using Clefairy.

It's a shame no good pokemon get Friend Guard.

Unowninator · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:47:09 PM

Let's see, it has Follow Me, Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Aromatherapy Thunder Wave, Helping Hand, and I suppose Wonder Room. I have a feeling I missed something though.

I'm not sure which one is bulkier though: Jigglypuff w/ its high HP but low defenses, or Clefairy with lower HP, but better defenses.

Stalltaria · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:57:01 PM

Run a few calculations on moves you think you'll be facing on common VCG pokemon.
That's the best advice I can give, and test it online on PO & PS before you justify having it on your team, you may find it doesn't work as well as you would like it to. :)

But who knows? it could have great synergy with your team, that's pokemon, it's more about how you exploit their individual traits as a pose to base stats and numbers.
Good luck with it, Unowninator!

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 15th, 2012, 6:26:40 PM

Simple questions should go in this thread. From some quick damage calcs, it seems that Clefairy is bulkier on both sides than Jigglypuff, so I have to back up that suggestion.

If you want to make a discussion thread for a Pokémon, that's fine, but it would require a more detailed OP to actually get some discussion (see the Thundurus-T thread for what such a post should look like), and you will want to make sure the Pokémon in question is viable first.

Dec 15th, 2012, 5:36:46 PM	#1
Unowninator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 54	Do you guys think Eviolite Jigglypuff could work for the VGC? I've been thinking about using one for supporting my allies with Friend Guard. I looked through its movepool and I found that it can learn Light Screen, Reflect, Safeguard, Helping Hand, Thunder Wave, and Pain Split. It could even hide behind Protect to keep itself alive if necessary while its ally takes less damage thanks to Friend Guard. What are your thoughts? Could Jigglypuff work? __________________ *Please help this game get a greenlight on steam. Thank you. * http://www.nitrome.com/steam/flightless/ "I'm just waiting for a bunch of kids, so excited after getting their shiny new Genesect, to go out and use Shift Gear only to find that they're locked into it because ololol Genesect came with a Choice Scarf" ~ RabidChipmunk

Dec 15th, 2012, 5:39:51 PM	#2
Stalltaria Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 18 Cave	Have you thought about Clefairy? It has a similar, if not a better and more reliable movepool, the same ability, and access to Eviolite. And 70/48/65 in bulk, instead of 115/20/25 __________________ Hibernating, etc.

Dec 15th, 2012, 5:46:17 PM	#3
Dusk209 No relation. Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 149	you're probably better off using a dual screener or a follow me user - they do the same job of helping their teammate survive, but they actually have nice stats and the ability to use good items. If you REALLY want to use this strategy, I would second Stalltaria's suggestion of using Clefairy. It's a shame no good pokemon get Friend Guard. __________________ [15:13:52] <&Zarel> Dusk209, you lied to me so much :( [15:14:47] <%Dusk209> Is there anything I can do to make up for my sins [15:15:42] <&Zarel> Dusk209, I accept blowjobs

Dec 15th, 2012, 5:47:09 PM	#4
Unowninator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 54	Let's see, it has Follow Me, Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Aromatherapy Thunder Wave, Helping Hand, and I suppose Wonder Room. I have a feeling I missed something though. I'm not sure which one is bulkier though: Jigglypuff w/ its high HP but low defenses, or Clefairy with lower HP, but better defenses. __________________ *Please help this game get a greenlight on steam. Thank you. * http://www.nitrome.com/steam/flightless/ "I'm just waiting for a bunch of kids, so excited after getting their shiny new Genesect, to go out and use Shift Gear only to find that they're locked into it because ololol Genesect came with a Choice Scarf" ~ RabidChipmunk

Dec 15th, 2012, 5:57:01 PM	#5
Stalltaria Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 18 Cave	Run a few calculations on moves you think you'll be facing on common VCG pokemon. That's the best advice I can give, and test it online on PO & PS before you justify having it on your team, you may find it doesn't work as well as you would like it to. :) But who knows? it could have great synergy with your team, that's pokemon, it's more about how you exploit their individual traits as a pose to base stats and numbers. Good luck with it, Unowninator! __________________ Hibernating, etc.

Dec 15th, 2012, 6:26:40 PM	#6
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,977	Simple questions should go in this thread. From some quick damage calcs, it seems that Clefairy is bulkier on both sides than Jigglypuff, so I have to back up that suggestion. If you want to make a discussion thread for a Pokémon, that's fine, but it would require a more detailed OP to actually get some discussion (see the Thundurus-T thread for what such a post should look like), and you will want to make sure the Pokémon in question is viable first. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?