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Old Jan 2nd, 2013, 11:48:57 AM   #1
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Old Jan 2nd, 2013, 12:04:01 PM   #2
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Mienshao moving it up into top 5, like the boss it is.

Why is Gligar still so high? It was out of top 30 up until we did the Rock Bottom gen V uu challenge, and it hasn't gone back down since...I realize it can set up stealth rock and walls any non-guts Heracross, but 15th means it is being used on A LOT of teams. (Even more surprising since Hail has been released.)

Mew still isn't getting used enough. Suicune is being wasted. I realize the meta is not particularly kind to it, but 45th seems way too low. Blastoise is still 3rd overall. There's so many better pokemon to be using.

Victini jumped 9 spots, probably because Bolt Strike was released. I wonder if it's actually that useful or not. Bolt Strike is a great move, but is it really good enough to keep Victini top 10? Umbreon also jumped into the top 20, but with Chansey being released, it will probably just drop right back down. They do literally the same exact things, except with Seismic Toss instead of Foul Play. Chansey can also set up Stealth Rock.

I'm wondering how much Abomasnow and Chansey will shake up next month's stats, assuming they don't get banned in a short period of time.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2013, 3:35:10 PM   #3
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Ah yes, more stats to speak on.

My Thoughts on these stats:

| 1 | Heracross | 33437 | 19.681% | 25977 | 18.349% |

Still king are ya?

| 2 | Chandelure | 29641 | 17.447% | 24581 | 17.363% |
| 3 | Blastoise | 28119 | 16.551% | 23935 | 16.906% |
| 4 | Roserade | 25848 | 15.214% | 21268 | 15.022% |

No surprises here. These three are some of the best in this meta.

| 5 | Mienshao | 25371 | 14.933% | 21072 | 14.884% |

Yeah, go get 'em Mienshao. Show 'em you're pro. Good job making it into Top 5 (We should consider S-Ranking this thing because it really is that awesome).

| 10 | Victini | 21573 | 12.698% | 17929 | 12.664% |

Kickin' butt there Victini. Vicky is an awesome CB mon who can definitely do lot's of work out there. Good job.

| 13 | Raikou | 20679 | 12.172% | 16764 | 11.841% |
| 19 | Crobat | 18632 | 10.967% | 16253 | 11.480% |

These two need a Top 10 Spot. Crobat is so anti-meta, and Raikou is an awesome CM sweeper. Needs Moar Usage.

| 16 | Ambipom | 20014 | 11.780% | 17601 | 12.432% |

Seriously fuck off.

| 17 | Hitmontop | 19641 | 11.561% | 16474 | 11.636% |

No. No. Get less usage, please. As far as spinning goes, both Blastoise and Claydol are better than you. Yeah. I just called CLAYDOL a better spinner than you. Get out. Also, Mienshao is a better revenge killer. Now leave.

| 26 | Azelf | 13957 | 8.215% | 12241 | 8.646% |
| 27 | Cofagrigus | 13851 | 8.153% | 11760 | 8.307% |
| 28 | Slowbro | 13823 | 8.136% | 11344 | 8.013% |

We have a serious case of underrated Pokemon right here. Right here are three Pokemon, all viciously underrated, better than Hitmontop and Ambipom.

| 31 | Honchkrow | 13083 | 7.701% | 10129 | 7.155% |
| 32 | Scrafty | 12597 | 7.415% | 10399 | 7.345% |
| 33 | Weavile | 12491 | 7.352% | 10071 | 7.114%

Dark-types be dominatin'. These three are all excellent Pokemon in this meta and deserve the usage. Bisharp and even goddamn Krook deserve to be this high, though. Seriously.

| 35 | Milotic | 12026 | 7.079% | 10030 | 7.085% |

Everyone does your job better. Everyone.

| 40 | Claydol | 10949 | 6.445% | 9416 | 6.651% |

For all of you people out there bashing Claydol, let me tell you that Claydol is a better spinner than Hitmontop. What Claydol lacks in offensive stats, he makes up for in great bulk and a vast support movepool. He can support the team well by spinning and setting up rocks / dual screens. While that does not save Claydol from being rather horrible, Hitmontop can't do squat; Intimidate ain't gonna save him from nothin'.

| 42 | Empoleon | 10841 | 6.381% | 9437 | 6.666% |

Huh what?!

| 43 | Machamp | 10839 | 6.380% | 8985 | 6.346% |
| 47 | Registeel | 9004 | 5.300% | 7973 | 5.632% |
| 48 | Dusclops | 8935 | 5.259% | 7740 | 5.467% |
| 54 | Mismagius | 7485 | 4.406% | 6068 | 4.286% |

These four have, as of now, long overstayed their welcome in UU. They might still be meritable, but I honestly don't see any reason to use Machamp anymore, when he's nothing more than a speed bump for speedy threats, namely Azelf and Crobat, and there are also many better Fighting-types out there. Dusclops and Registeel simply cannot compete in this meta, and they have no reason to be used over Cofagrigus and Bronzong, respectively. Mismagius is just silly. I'd love to have it in RU, but a lot of her niches have been taken up by the other Ghost-types. What a shame.

| 60 | Whimsicott | 2906 | 1.710% | 2438 | 1.722% |

No. No. It's not good. Stop using it.

| 121 | Escavalier | 809 | 0.476% | 653 | 0.461% |

The fact that this gets this low of usage is out of my reaches as far as I know. Seriously guys, Escavalier is awesome in UU. If you have time, I recommend you to try this thing out.

That's all I gotta say.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2013, 4:04:54 PM   #4
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oh god chansey's back time for the metagame to revolve around it, the things that can kill it and the things that kill the things that can kill chansey.

evolite chansey was a bitch to kill in OU much less with the lesser overall power of UU.
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| 1 | Heracross | 33437 | 19.681% | 25977 | 18.349% |

Well, obviously.

| 3 | Blastoise | 28119 | 16.551% | 23935 | 16.906% |

Blastoise gets too much hate. He's not as bulky and not nearly as offensive as Suicune, but he can Rapid Spin. Considering some of the hardest hitters in the metagame are weak to rocks (namely the Fire-types: Darmanitan, Victini, and Chandelure), Blastoise is one of the few Pokemon who can reliably Rapid Spin and not be set-up fodder (Roar is awesome). He also synergizes naturally with those hard-hitting Fire-types thanks to his Water-typing, so overall, Blastoise is a good 'mon.

| 10 | Victini | 21573 | 12.698% | 17929 | 12.664% |

Bolt Strike has been kind to you.

| 16 | Ambipom | 20014 | 11.780% | 17601 | 12.432% |

I love watching Ambipom climb the usage statistics. Everyone always complains about it, but he always does it. KEEP DOING THAT THING THAT YOU DO, AMBIPOM

| 46 | Bisharp | 9869 | 5.809% | 8020 | 5.665% |

Bisharp, on the other hand, can just go away. Seriously. Just go to RU, Bisharp. They'd love you down there.

| 49 | Zoroark | 8849 | 5.209% | 4019 | 2.839% |
| 52 | Meloetta | 7896 | 4.648% | 6221 | 4.394% |

Shame these two don't get much usage. They require a lot of effort to fit into a team, and I guess it's just not worth it most of the time. I'd hate to see Meloetta fall to RU, but hey, she'd be a hell of a Nidoqueen check if she did.
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P2 #29. Don't expect that to last with Chansey coming back. Literally no merits over Chansey except offensive presence and MUCH higher Defense.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2013, 11:04:35 PM   #7
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I also think Escavalier is really underrated in UU. If it got gyro ball, I'm sure it'd get more usage. Then again, a lot of people I run into can't even be bothered running gyro ball on their ferro / forre...

Ambipom is really underwhelming. I've never once felt threatened by it. It's annoying, but Bronzong can annoy on top of support the team. Fake out can be useful sometimes but more often it is not. Actually, Weavile does it better yet it's all the way down at 33. I can't really gauge any reason why it's getting that level of usage.
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Now I wanna make a Trick Room team based around Escavalier.

Otherwise, the list is pretty much the same as always.
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No Surprises in the top 10, possibly top 15 even. Flygon will probably drop out of top 10 though, as people trying abomasnow will (or so I would think) be inclined to at least try ice-shard, as STAB priority isn't a bad thing.

As for hitmontop...no. One thing I'd like to add to the comment of Scraftyisthebest is that claydol has good spinning capabilities for another reason; toxic spikes. While not as common, and probably even less so due to nidoroyal/venomoth usage, its still a legitimate threat and it really does hinder both blastoise and hitmontop when their only recovery is now negated. Probably a fair few wins I have gotten from teams that have somehow left themselves weak to the spikes, when I certainly shouldn't be.

Poor arcanine, your time seems to be coming to an end at this rate, becoming outclassed in the coverage department by victini, hindered by SR for defensive sets...

After rank 40, its a pity to see arguably good pokemon so low down, but at the end of the day, its pretty much clear between having to counter certain threats and the sheer quality of said threats (especially chandelure and heracross), you just can't get all of them to be used like you think they should be. I wouldn't mind using mismagius myself (and I did during the rock bottom challenge), but the rise of snorlax as the only safe switch to chandelure just kills any remaining viability given it will now simply kill missy outright rather than more commonly phaze in the past.

Not sure if I'd use chansey myself. I can see why it will be good, but snorlax can still offer competition for a special wall, if not be better for eliminating certain key threats (only a SubCM chandelure set comes to mind at present, but I'm sure there are other good reasons for snorlax to be used over chansey).

Abomasnow I think I'd like to try, if only for the novelty of a weather team in UU (to clarify, I was not around when pre-evolutions of OU weathermons were allowed in UU).
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Houndoom at the last spot scares me. Houndoom is such a good 'mon at what it does and is a perfect Chandelure check/counter. Fire immunity and resistance to Shadow Ball (and energy ball for some Lures) make it one of the best switch-ins. Seriously, please don't let him fall to RU, he deserves to stay here! If anything let Mismagius fall to RU, it's only mediocre in this UU meta.
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If Chancey's drop causes Umbreon useage to fall as well (likely). Then missy may have a reason to exist. I used the sub nasty plot set past one Chancey was around and it was pretty effective. While is lacks sub/CM chandalure's immediate power, missy is faster and has fewer weaknesses.
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Ah yes, more stats to speak on.

My Thoughts on these stats:

| 1 | Heracross | 33437 | 19.681% | 25977 | 18.349% |

Still king are ya?

| 2 | Chandelure | 29641 | 17.447% | 24581 | 17.363% |
| 3 | Blastoise | 28119 | 16.551% | 23935 | 16.906% |
| 4 | Roserade | 25848 | 15.214% | 21268 | 15.022% |

No surprises here. These three are some of the best in this meta.

| 5 | Mienshao | 25371 | 14.933% | 21072 | 14.884% |

Yeah, go get 'em Mienshao. Show 'em you're pro. Good job making it into Top 5 (We should consider S-Ranking this thing because it really is that awesome).

| 10 | Victini | 21573 | 12.698% | 17929 | 12.664% |

Kickin' butt there Victini. Vicky is an awesome CB mon who can definitely do lot's of work out there. Good job.

| 13 | Raikou | 20679 | 12.172% | 16764 | 11.841% |
| 19 | Crobat | 18632 | 10.967% | 16253 | 11.480% |

These two need a Top 10 Spot. Crobat is so anti-meta, and Raikou is an awesome CM sweeper. Needs Moar Usage. Raikou is overrated and will never get to be top 10 because of chansey. Crobat, I can understand.

| 16 | Ambipom | 20014 | 11.780% | 17601 | 12.432% |

Seriously fuck off.

| 17 | Hitmontop | 19641 | 11.561% | 16474 | 11.636% |

No. No. Get less usage, please. As far as spinning goes, both Blastoise and Claydol are better than you. Yeah. I just called CLAYDOL a better spinner than you. Get out. Also, Mienshao is a better revenge killer. since when?
Now leave.

| 26 | Azelf | 13957 | 8.215% | 12241 | 8.646% |
| 27 | Cofagrigus | 13851 | 8.153% | 11760 | 8.307% |
| 28 | Slowbro | 13823 | 8.136% | 11344 | 8.013% |

We have a serious case of underrated Pokemon right here. Right here are three Pokemon, all viciously underrated, better than Hitmontop and Ambipom.

| 31 | Honchkrow | 13083 | 7.701% | 10129 | 7.155% |
| 32 | Scrafty | 12597 | 7.415% | 10399 | 7.345% |
| 33 | Weavile | 12491 | 7.352% | 10071 | 7.114%

Dark-types be dominatin'. These three are all excellent Pokemon in this meta and deserve the usage. Bisharp and even goddamn Krook deserve to be this high, though. Seriously.
what I don't understand is why weavile is lower than honchkrow.
| 40 | Claydol | 10949 | 6.445% | 9416 | 6.651% |

For all of you people out there bashing Claydol, let me tell you that Claydol is a better spinner than Hitmontop. What Claydol lacks in offensive stats, he makes up for in great bulk and a vast support movepool. He can support the team well by spinning and setting up rocks / dual screens. While that does not save Claydol from being rather horrible, Hitmontop can't do squat; Intimidate ain't gonna save him from nothin'.
Can you tell me something that allows it to set up dual screens? he does nothing on your team other than be target practice for bulky waters and dark-types.
| 42 | Empoleon | 10841 | 6.381% | 9437 | 6.666% |

Huh what?!

| 43 | Machamp | 10839 | 6.380% | 8985 | 6.346% |
| 47 | Registeel | 9004 | 5.300% | 7973 | 5.632% |
| 48 | Dusclops | 8935 | 5.259% | 7740 | 5.467% |
| 54 | Mismagius | 7485 | 4.406% | 6068 | 4.286% |

These four have, as of now, long overstayed their welcome in UU. They might still be meritable, but I honestly don't see any reason to use Machamp anymore, when he's nothing more than a speed bump for speedy threats, namely Azelf and Crobat, and there are also many better Fighting-types out there. Dusclops and Registeel simply cannot compete in this meta, and they have no reason to be used over Cofagrigus and Bronzong, respectively. Mismagius is just silly. I'd love to have it in RU, but a lot of her niches have been taken up by the other Ghost-types. What a shame.
The fighting-types you say Machamp is outclassed by are actually outclassed by machamp. The latter seriously needs more love and nobody realizes ScarfChamp's potential. dusclops is a piece of crap, yes.
| 60 | Whimsicott | 2906 | 1.710% | 2438 | 1.722% |

No. No. It's not good. Stop using it.

| 121 | Escavalier | 809 | 0.476% | 653 | 0.461% |

The fact that this gets this low of usage is out of my reaches as far as I know. Seriously guys, Escavalier is awesome in UU. If you have time, I recommend you to try this thing out.

That's all I gotta say.

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| 35 | Milotic | 12026 | 7.079% | 10030 | 7.085% |

Everyone does your job better. Everyone.
lol no

Also, why is tornadus so underrated? nothing likes stab-boosted hurricane and it also has prankster to set up Rain Dance. Though it will probably fall to ru now that chansey is here.
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Also, why is tornadus so underrated? nothing likes stab-boosted hurricane and it also has prankster to set up Rain Dance. Though it will probably fall to ru now that chansey is here.
That's exactly the problem. The very fact that you need to spend a turn setting up Rain Dance means that it will be hit hard with a SE attack while it does so. There is a huge difference between manually setting RD and Drizzle and Tornadus-I being UU really shows that.

If Tornadus-T gets banned from OU, Tornadus-I will once again raise to that tier.
Kind of sad that its entire existance is all about being a poor man's replacement for a genie that has been banished to ubers.
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That's exactly the problem. The very fact that you need to spend a turn setting up Rain Dance means that it will be hit hard with a SE attack while it does so. There is a huge difference between manually setting RD and Drizzle and Tornadus-I being UU really shows that.

If Tornadus-T gets banned from OU, Tornadus-I will once again raise to that tier.
Kind of sad that its entire existance is all about being a poor man's replacement for a genie that has been banished to ubers.
Tornadus-I does not actually need rain to be consistent, sure, his special sets do for dem Hurricanes, but there's also AcroNadus. Tornadus-I has priority Bulk Up to power up some real good Acrobatics and actually make for an alright Heraboss and Roserade check.

Also, on Claydol's part, Claydol could set up Dual Screens on Scarf Heraboss. While that doesn't make Claydol good, I think at least it's more useful than Top.

And perhaps Raikou could see use now that Chansey's quickbanned.

That aside, there are some other stats to note here:

| 34 | Porygon-Z | 12053 | 7.094% | 9582 | 6.768% |

This is rather impressive for a Pokemon who is competing in a Fighting infested meta. Then again, it deserves the usage because P-Z is one hell of a powerhouse in the tier (lol, it only gets slightly less usage than P2)

| 41 | Froslass | 10872 | 6.399% | 9763 | 6.896% |

You've got to be kidding me. What is one of the best Spikers in UU doing this low in usage?

| 45 | Suicune | 9964 | 5.865% | 8421 | 5.948% |

I seriously do not understand why Suicune is THIS low in usage. This is some wasted lack of usage. I do understand that this meta is not exactly kind to Suicune, but seriously, CroCune is a boss set and deserves to be used more.

| 46 | Bisharp | 9869 | 5.809% | 8020 | 5.665% |

This thing also deserves to be used more. Bisharp is one hell of a vicious sweeper, and after an SD boost it can shred teams to pieces. Substitute can also help ease prediction and also be able to fire two Sucker Punches at Heraboss, so that's nice too. Seriously, Bisharp is awesome in UU. Needs more usage.

| 52 | Meloetta | 7896 | 4.648% | 6221 | 4.394% |
| 53 | Krookodile | 7787 | 4.583% | 6188 | 4.371% |

That said, I am kinda sad to see these two this low in usage. Both are otherwise great Pokemon in UU, but I guess the competition they get is not warranting them much more usage. Meloetta really is good, and the CM sets are quite good, but Mew really gives it a hard time in UU. Krook is amazing and is a boss Moxie sweeper, but Heraboss and Honchkrow just seem to do it better. If these two do fall to RU though, they'd be cool additions to the tier.

| 55 | Tornadus | 7074 | 4.164% | 5908 | 4.173% |

It is a shame to see Tornadus so low as well. He's a good rain sweeper and can wreck shit real hard. Also, AcroNadus is pretty awesome too. That said, he'd be a strong addition to RU if he did fall.

| 56 | Houndoom | 6527 | 3.842% | 5282 | 3.731% |

Firedog is pretty good in UU, but it'd be really fucking cool to have in RU.

| 57 | Nidoqueen | 4395 | 2.587% | 3773 | 2.665% |

This needs to be used more. To be honest, it's better than Nidoking in this meta.
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Tornadus-I does not actually need rain to be consistent, sure, his special sets do for dem Hurricanes, but there's also AcroNadus. Tornadus-I has priority Bulk Up to power up some real good Acrobatics and actually make for an alright Heraboss and Roserade check.

Also, on Claydol's part, Claydol could set up Dual Screens on Scarf Heraboss. While that doesn't make Claydol good, I think at least it's more useful than Top.

And perhaps Raikou could see use now that Chansey's quickbanned.

That aside, there are some other stats to note here:

| 34 | Porygon-Z | 12053 | 7.094% | 9582 | 6.768% |

This is rather impressive for a Pokemon who is competing in a Fighting infested meta. Then again, it deserves the usage because P-Z is one hell of a powerhouse in the tier (lol, it only gets slightly less usage than P2)

That is because its Fighting weakness is not really that important, seeing as P-Z is not meant to take hits but rather dish them out. It has just enough bulk to survive most unboosted neutral moves and threaten to hit back with Adaptability boosted STAB Tri Attack or Download boosted Coverage moves.

| 41 | Froslass | 10872 | 6.399% | 9763 | 6.896% |

You've got to be kidding me. What is one of the best Spikers in UU doing this low in usage?

I think it's because Froslass is a weird mix between offensive Ice type and support spiker / spinblocker. IMO it doesn't fare that well as a spinblocker, because of its frailty, which is why most other ghost types are used over or even in addition to Froslass.


| 45 | Suicune | 9964 | 5.865% | 8421 | 5.948% |

I seriously do not understand why Suicune is THIS low in usage. This is some wasted lack of usage. I do understand that this meta is not exactly kind to Suicune, but seriously, CroCune is a boss set and deserves to be used more.

Simple: You should not have more than 1 Water Pokémon your team, seeing as both Shaymin and especially Roserade are everywhere to check them. And because there are so many viable Water Pokés in UU (ahem Blastoise), it is only natural that some of them are used less than others.

| 46 | Bisharp | 9869 | 5.809% | 8020 | 5.665% |

This thing also deserves to be used more. Bisharp is one hell of a vicious sweeper, and after an SD boost it can shred teams to pieces. Substitute can also help ease prediction and also be able to fire two Sucker Punches at Heraboss, so that's nice too. Seriously, Bisharp is awesome in UU. Needs more usage.

| 52 | Meloetta | 7896 | 4.648% | 6221 | 4.394% |
| 53 | Krookodile | 7787 | 4.583% | 6188 | 4.371% |

That said, I am kinda sad to see these two this low in usage. Both are otherwise great Pokemon in UU, but I guess the competition they get is not warranting them much more usage. Meloetta really is good, and the CM sets are quite good, but Mew really gives it a hard time in UU. Krook is amazing and is a boss Moxie sweeper, but Heraboss and Honchkrow just seem to do it better. If these two do fall to RU though, they'd be cool additions to the tier.

| 55 | Tornadus | 7074 | 4.164% | 5908 | 4.173% |

It is a shame to see Tornadus so low as well. He's a good rain sweeper and can wreck shit real hard. Also, AcroNadus is pretty awesome too. That said, he'd be a strong addition to RU if he did fall.

Good Pokémon that are low on the usage list are most of the time those that needs a very specific team composition to work properly. Tornadus is one of them. You can't just slap a Tornadus, a Kingdra and maybe another rain setter onto a team and expect it to work wonders. Those kinds of offensive stategies often fail at a synergetic level between its team members, because people tend to focus on that one strategy more than on proper team balance. In the long run, these kind of teams don't come really far so they get scrapped again.

| 56 | Houndoom | 6527 | 3.842% | 5282 | 3.731% |

Firedog is pretty good in UU, but it'd be really fucking cool to have in RU.

I have seen a few more Houndooms running around on the ladder lately, no idea why people suddenly want to try it out though. Maybe cause of Chandelure, seeing as Houndoom is listed as no. 1 check / counter to Chandy (although most of the time, those Houndooms are handled pretty badly and they die without having done much).
As with Tornadus, Houndoom needs a specific team compotition in order to work, and offensively speaking, it is not as intimidating as the other Fire-types in the tier because of its comparably lower offensive stats (Victini doesn't count LOL180BPSTABMOVELOL)


| 57 | Nidoqueen | 4395 | 2.587% | 3773 | 2.665% |

This needs to be used more. To be honest, it's better than Nidoking in this meta.

Yes it is, and while many people already have caught onto that fact, the number of people oblivious to Nidoqueen's presence still surpasses the former and still use Nidoking. But seeing as how Nidoking's usage went down significantly compared to last month, it is safe to say that more and more people are "discovering" Nidoqueen as a viable UU Pokémon.
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3 | Blastoise | 28119 | 16.551% | 23935 | 16.906%

I don't get what Blastoise does that Claydol doesn't. Don't get me wrong I love Blastoise, but in UU, it kinda seems outclassed by Claydol.

26 | Azelf | 13957 | 8.215% | 12241 | 8.646%

Azelf needs more love. It is a really good Nasty Plot sweeper and an excellent revenge killer. It needs to at least be top 15
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Blastoise beats all the spin-blockers bar rotom, and claydol is weak to ghost so loses to cofagrigus, mismagius and froslass as well as pretty much every other spin blocker. Blastoise also is able to counter the vast majority of fire types pretty well, such as Scarf Victini and Scarf Darmanitan, while Claydol doesn't counter much at all due to it's terrible typing. Fighting types have either a secondary STAB that hits claydol super effectively, or a coverage move, and the same goes for electric types such as HP Ice for Raikou and Zapdos. Although fire types often have a secondary move to hit Blastoise hard, it doesn't hit blastoise hard enough to kill(unless you are Chandelure with Specs Energy Ball), and Blastoise can retaliate with a Scald and kill the fire type, unlike claydol who is 2HKO'd. Blastoise can also work well as a check to Scarf Flygon, unlike Claydol who is hit super-effectively by U-turn and is hit hard by Outrage, and there is a good chance that Outrage 2HKO's claydol after rocks.
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| 42 | Empoleon | 10841 | 6.381% | 9437 | 6.666% |

Really? And things like Milotic are used more?! It is official...Empoleon is seriously underrated.
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3 | Blastoise | 28119 | 16.551% | 23935 | 16.906%

I don't get what Blastoise does that Claydol doesn't. Don't get me wrong I love Blastoise, but in UU, it kinda seems outclassed by Claydol.
claydol looks okay on paper (ooh look, a spinner mostly immune to hazards with screens!) but that awful typing and total lack of offensive power or reasonable bulk really takes it down a notch. blastoise isn't stellar, but it's both a rapid spinner and a reasonable Bulky Water that handles spinblockers 1 on 1 very well.

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26 | Azelf | 13957 | 8.215% | 12241 | 8.646%

Azelf needs more love. It is a really good Nasty Plot sweeper and an excellent revenge killer. It needs to at least be top 15
it's competing with Mew, who while slower is still in a pretty good speed tier for UU and has significantly more bulk + a stronger Fighting attack. They can both 2HKO stuff after a boost, but Mew can actually take the hit. In terms of "Base 115 Speed Special Attackers", Raikou is different but generally more effective. When you consider that Azelf is checkmated by Pursuit from Scarf Hera, CB Snorlax, and Weavile, you can see why it gets a decent amount of usage but isn't leading the tier.
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