Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 160

Basileus · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:41:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Flaming Piranha

Imagine Muk's Curse set, but with a increase to speed instead of a decrease. He'd become wayy better in NU.
Drapion could really benefit from this move too. With already decent Attack, Defence and Speed stats, he's become a monster with that move.

He might get pushed to RU and then become crap though :P

Farrac · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:43:00 PM

Eevee--->Eeveelution--->Third normal type evolution

Basileus · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:45:59 PM

Guys, I wasn't talking about normal type eevee evo at all, lol.

Zabel Zarock · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:47:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

Guys, I wasn't talking about normal type eevee evo at all, lol.

It doesn't help there's convos going here and there. D:

I just wish news would pop up and slap us in the face.

Flaming Piranha · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:50:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

He might get pushed to RU and then become crap though :P

True, but he's not doing that well in NU to be honest, just gets demolished by all the common bulky psychic types :)

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Originally Posted by Fat Zabel Zarock

It doesn't help there's convos going here and there. D:

I just wish news would pop up and slap us in the face.

There will be news soon, Corocoro scans should be released in the next few days.

Basileus · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:50:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zabel Zarock

It doesn't help there's convos going here and there. D:

I just wish news would pop up and slap us in the face.

Corocoro comes out feb. 15th I think. So about a week of waiting but it will come soon, don't worry. Plus, sometimes pages are leaked early ;)

Zabel Zarock · Feb 8th, 2013, 7:54:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

Corocoro comes out feb. 15th I think. So about a week of waiting but it will come soon, don't worry. Plus, sometimes pages are leaked early ;)

That's good to know.

I did see some fake scans but fake scans are bound to happen.

Jabroni · Feb 8th, 2013, 8:07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Practisecactus

And if that froakie line is 10% accurate, there is no chance I'm using that thing. Hell, I doubt I'll even finish the pokedex.

Ha I know what you mean!

I was set on getting froakie. Unfortunately I saw the awesome fan art we all saw ages ago

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And although the real final form will almost certainly be better than that latest example in the vid, it will still never live up to this froakin awesomeness.

Btw, can someone quickly explain where all these water/electric starter theories are coming from? (I know fennekin had a kind of psychic lookin move there in the trailer, but where's all this talk of froakie/thor based on?) if we're going with a norse theme, surely ice powers like that of froakie, sorry, I mean Loki. I guess his bubbles could double as thunder clouds...

**R_N** · Feb 8th, 2013, 8:13:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jabroni

Btw, can someone quickly explain where all these water/electric starter theories are coming from? (I know fennekin had a kind of psychic lookin move there in the trailer, but where's all this talk of froakie/thor based on?) if we're going with a norse theme, surely ice powers like that of froakie, sorry, I mean Loki. I guess his bubbles could double as thunder clouds...

Some people think Froakie resembles Ben Franklin. The whole kite experiment and all.

And then that got transmorfed into viking & thor because internet

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

Corocoro comes out feb. 15th I think. So about a week of waiting but it will come soon, don't worry. Plus, sometimes pages are leaked early ;)

By sometimes he means "Every time"
Usually around the 10th at the earliest, no later than the 12th.
I think August issues usually leak around the 8th for some reason.

Dia · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat LonelyWolf

Hello there, I'm totally new "old man" who just registered here, although I've been reading Smogon Forums for years... I've enjoyed all the speculations, CAP talks and so on from the past. I Hope my 1st post is appropriate quality for this community.

But yeah, it took about 3 weeks to read all those 150+ pages this thread has, and little extra difficulties when I had to translate this all to my son also... Lot of great ideas and discussions. To point out, I find Yveltals way of handle ideas most impressive (,be welcome). Of course there are many other great "thinkers", but you've gotten the edge to jump out from the mass.

Now I'd like to pop out thought of (pre)evos which haven't been discussed yet, and I find it worth to debate. I see people are very excited about the possible totally new mechanics to evolve old pokemon. But I would like to say, that in my opinion it's more likely to presume that GF uses already "used" methods (prove me if I'm wrong). For example, trading with Metal Coat or getting evolution while leveling up with AncientPower attack and so on. And in a way, I find it that way more reliable to discuss which pokemon are possible to get (pre)evo. (Yea, I know, technically "all" of the pokemon can evolve excluding legendary and those which have already 3 stages... or hmmm, can they add 4th stage evos? I see it unlikely, but... Well... Not my point now).

When thinking this way, I find it easier to figure out possible solutions and so on. I introduce couple of examples; you are wise enough to figure out more then.

Pinsir/Marowak/Farfetch'd... (so on)
I'd see it likely to get evo in a way I gave example earlier on. I find it hard to see those mons evolve "naturally" while just leveling up. I can in a contrary figure them quite clearly to evolve with help of Metal Coat to something which is... Well... Coated in metal! Then also I can imagine them having some ancient-form evo with help of AncientPower, although Marowak is only one of those I mentioned which have possibility to learn it...

Also, knowing GF they love to introduce "side-evolutions" for already existing Pokemon (dissapointing community usually, for not giving evo for mons which should've deserved it). Talking one's like Bellossom/Frosslas and so on. Is there pokemon you think could fit in this category that GF could consider using for new side-evolutions?

And I'm just saying an idea about the Relicanth evo discussion which took place earlier on... I found it years ago very plausible that it'd evolve. Not naturally of course because of its whole idea. As a young man, I thought that "Maybe in next generation they'd have some scientists which have been studying this extraordinary creature, and found out that in some special way (Read: aforementioned Metal Coat, AncientPower and so on...) it'd evolve!" I thought Relicanth evolving into some Water/Steel would be awesome. Empeleon sort of satisfied my thoughts in IV Gen at that time, but oh well...

I hope you get my idea. I'm trying to say, that when we think that how'd GF let some Pokemon evolve after many generations, I see it very unlikely it'd do it "naturally". Why would them suddenly evolve without any assistance in a way? Evolution in real life isn't so terribly fast you know... In certain aspects, yes. But oh well. Nowadays it is we humans which speed it up artificially, directly or in-directly.

This way we can figure out easier which are more likely to evolve, although those might not be those Pokemon which community anticipate to evolve... Does some certain suggested Pokemon have in their real life counterparts some ancient, well-known, "stronger" versions? Or are there some pokemon which seem very appropriate and kind of "cool" (In childrens eyes at least) with new armour-like thing?

And yeah, I know all the other stone/happiness/place based methods... I just don't mention examples about them, to keep this simple. Do you find some older pokemon "very likely" to evolve to darker form with Dusk Stone or more divine form with Shiny Stone? I've discussed a lot about this matter also with my son. I'd love to see some fan art about this matter, I'm not good enough to produce anything as awesome what I've seen...

And yeah, sorry if my text is illogical or something. Although I have a quite high degree education (I'm Physician here in Finland... Yea, even physicians can play pokemon, if u didn't know..) I'm more capable of understanding written/spoken English than producing it myself. Part of the reason I ended up register here and write this was that I could share mine and my sons ideas and get our imaginations about new (pre)evos even more vivid!

Hope speculation will keep the pace up, even there's so much time until the release.

You must be a pretty cool father.
Yeah, the normal type eevelution could be part of a three-stage line. It would actually be pretty neat to see a fully evolved Eevee without changing types. Here is a fakemon I found
http://nueva-paz.deviantart.com/art/...-evo-115560379

As for the flying type evo:
http://jadedhyrt.deviantart.com/art/...tion-284881664

Narutendo3 · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:21:33 PM

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I think these are among the better looking and more likely starter evos. This is basically the only Fennekin evo fan art that isn't too generic and actually fits the whole desert fox thing.

Jimera0 · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:27:47 PM

Just a reminder to everyone speculating Eeveeolutions, I'd like to point out that all 7 eeveeolutions so far have the same set of Base stats, just rearanged. Any future evolutions will almost certainly have 1 base stat of 60, 2 of 65, 1 of 95, 1 of 110 and 1 of 130. So something like the balanced stats suggested for a normal eeveelution would be highly unlikely under the current model, unless they make it clear somehow that the normal type eeveeolution is special in some way.

Anyway, as others have said before, it's unlikely that the new Coro Coro will reveal too much, considering that we still have 8 more months until release.

My advice is to expect nothing at all, because then anything that appears will seem more than you expected :P

Basileus · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:44:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Narutendo3

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I think these are among the better looking and more likely starter evos. This is basically the only Fennekin evo fan art that isn't too generic and actually fits the whole desert fox thing.

I freaking love this! who is the artist???

**R_N** · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:47:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jimera0

Just a reminder to everyone speculating Eeveeolutions, I'd like to point out that all 7 eeveeolutions so far have the same set of Base stats, just rearanged. Any future evolutions will almost certainly have 1 base stat of 60, 2 of 65, 1 of 95, 1 of 110 and 1 of 130. So something like the balanced stats suggested for a normal eeveelution would be highly unlikely under the current model, unless they make it clear somehow that the normal type eeveeolution is special in some way.

Anyway, as others have said before, it's unlikely that the new Coro Coro will reveal too much, considering that we still have 8 more months until release.

My advice is to expect nothing at all, because then anything that appears will seem more than you expected :P

Remember that they did not even acknowledge the starters last issue

If anything I expect them to get a proper feature (of stuff we already knew) and maybe artwork for our player

Yveltal · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:55:58 PM

this is for all of you who feel that you need it:

Narutendo3 · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:56:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jimera0

Anyway, as others have said before, it's unlikely that the new Coro Coro will reveal too much, considering that we still have 8 more months until release.

My advice is to expect nothing at all, because then anything that appears will seem more than you expected :P

Didn't we get a steady stream of new pokemon from corocoro each month with 5th gen? I don't entirely remember because I didn't pay as much attention back then, but I definitely remember checking serebii and seeing 2-3 new pokemon every month or so for a while before the japanese release.

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Originally Posted by Fat Basileus

I freaking love this! who is the artist???

I couldn't find who made it. It was just a google images result that took me to a thread where somebody who wasn't the creator posted it.

reaverz · Feb 8th, 2013, 10:58:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jimera0

Anyway, as others have said before, it's unlikely that the new Coro Coro will reveal too much, considering that we still have 8 more months until release.

My advice is to expect nothing at all, because then anything that appears will seem more than you expected :P

Actually, we're due for a "movie coverage" issue. I think February is almost always the month that the Coro Coro issue focuses on the upcoming movie. It usually reveals the complete and final title of the movie, any new forms for existing Pokemon starring in the movie, has the first excerpt of major plot details, and reveals any new Pokemon that play a big role in the movie.

My guess is that we will get one new Gen VI Pokemon revealed in this issue of Coro Coro. The new Pokemon will have a starring role in the movie opposite Genesect, will be of the Lucario sort, and have its name in the title. Incidentally, does anyone remember this?

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This was an advertisement for the movie shown back in December that showcased merchandise for the movie (in the form of tassels and watches). See the silhouetted watch at the very right, above Pikachu? Well, Serebii said that the ad states that there are two "mystery merchandise." Could these be featuring Gen VI Pokemon?

shadowclaw191 · Feb 8th, 2013, 11:22:41 PM

Can we have male gothorita to evolve to a dark/psychic? To be like male kirlia who evolved to psychic. Using the dusk stone on it cause its dark.

And the chespin evolvin into a kangaroo shape looks like a good last stage for him. And he grows 6 arms with boxing gloves like a quirk from the miscrits Game.

And based on wat i see in previous fire Starters, the last evo WILL always have a visible Fire pattern. Like charizard tail, typhlosion back and so on. So fennekin becomes a will-o-wisp that is Shaped like A werewolf And becomes a fire ghost Type. (A werewolf idea is seriously cool though. If the ghost doesnt make it, fire/fightin werewolf?)

Water pokemon normally have a either a Singnature move or A singnature 'weapon' on it. Blastoise guns(hydro cannon), feraligatr tail or TEETH(waterfall or aqua tail?)., swampert with its earthquake detection stuff(muddy water), empoleon with is large metal claws(dunno its singnature move Brine? Aqua jet?) Samurott with its large horn( razor shelll) or froakie evolves into a mass of bubbles that float around an washes ppl to death. Or a thundercloud that goes boom each time it farts. Water/poison type for both options.

Wishy · Feb 8th, 2013, 11:59:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Flaming Piranha

Rotom W? But I like your ideas, hahah

Ah, right. Missed that one. But that's only 1 more! Therefore, we still need more Water/Electric.

The Froakie evo Jabroni posted is pretty great. Add some flavour text about it's beard being able to generation electricity and BAM, we have a winner.

Zabel Zarock · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:22:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat shadowclaw191

Can we have male gothorita to evolve to a dark/psychic? To be like male kirlia who evolved to psychic. Using the dusk stone on it cause its dark.

Honestly while I really like this idea I do feel that male Gothitelles are a giant shout out to...

...Mana of Malice Mizer which is probably the point. Mana helped popularized the Gothic Lolita fashion and coined the term Elegant Gothic Lolita. And yes that's a guy. You know Japan. But if your idea does happen Gothitelle's new form would look more like...

In any case. Make it happen Game Freak! And I wanted to get that out of the way.

Sorry for any large images. I couldn't find anything better. D:

shockwave527 · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:25:02 AM

Here's my opinion on possible Secondary starter types. This is just my thoughts on what it could be (not based off designs or anything, but any possible types from anywhere and which are extremely unlikely.

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(If you just read what's below this and don't understand why, my reasoning is hidden because, well, it's REALLY long.)

FINAL VERDICT:

Possible secondary types (Rated 1-10 on likeliness)
Ground (7)
Rock (3)
Dark (7)
Psychic (7)
Fighting (8)
Poison (4)
Steel (3)
Ice (2) [Only possible with Water]

And, of course, it's still possible for any to just stay monotype too.

EDIT: I have added reasonings for the likelinesses for each pokemon to gain any of the types I did not count out, and possibilities relating to those types in future forms, so if you missed that, that is there now.

Quark · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:21:22 AM

@shockwave527
I understand your reasoning for electric, but I don't feel as though that rules out electric as a secondary type. Even if the developers are concerned with how the new starters will mesh with the anime, the electric type probably wouldn't come about until an evolution or two, and Ash's Pokemon in the anime have a habit of not evolving. They could just treat it like Totodile and not have Froakie evolve, keeping Pikachu as the electric on the team.

That being said, I don't think it is too likely unless those bubbles become a cloud or something. I just don't think we can rule it out yet.

HabibsHotDogs · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:22:02 AM

Interesting extrapolations you have there but the only types I see as completely out of the question are fire/water/grass/dragon as secondary types.

Even ghost seems reasonable and I will not at all be surprised if Chespin becomes the Grass/Ghost a lot of people want!

The reason why fire/water/grass will not work are obvious. As for dragon it is simply because in order for the triangle to exist, you can not have a dragon secondary typing! The exception is exclusively for the grass type (Chespin) to have the dragon typing as a secondary as the water type can easily get a poison/flying/bug/ice secondary and still hit it for SE damage.

If the water had dragon as a secondary typing... the grass would NEED dragon or at the very worst steel as its secondary typing.

If the fire type had dragon as a secondary typing.. then water would NEED dragon/rock/ground and as rock is highly unlikely given Froakie's model and ground just doesn't fit (inb4 it is part ground)..

Zabel Zarock · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:29:57 AM

Judging by their appearance and coloring alone I'd say Chespin will become a Grass/Ground, Fennekin would be pure Fire, and Froakie might be Water/Ice in the end.

But as we learned they could become anything at this point.

Wazzup360 · Feb 9th, 2013, 5:27:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TheMrBassdude

Yeah haha. And then, of course, the inverse. If Gallade could give itself +1 Attack, Defense and Speed in one turn. Or Infernape. Hell, even Emboar could get use out of it. That's why I'm praying we don't get physical Fighting Quiver Dance

Maybe low distribution for only few pokes so it won't get too OP for pokemon like, you know, sawk.

I want sawk for OU ok D:

Feb 8th, 2013, 7:45:59 PM	#3978
Basileus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 267 The ice kingdom	Guys, I wasn't talking about normal type eevee evo at all, lol. __________________ ~Arguing with a fool proves there are two~

Feb 8th, 2013, 10:27:47 PM	#3987
Jimera0 I have to get to GOLDENROD for myEnemy ??????? Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,464 Canada Mentor	Just a reminder to everyone speculating Eeveeolutions, I'd like to point out that all 7 eeveeolutions so far have the same set of Base stats, just rearanged. Any future evolutions will almost certainly have 1 base stat of 60, 2 of 65, 1 of 95, 1 of 110 and 1 of 130. So something like the balanced stats suggested for a normal eeveelution would be highly unlikely under the current model, unless they make it clear somehow that the normal type eeveeolution is special in some way. Anyway, as others have said before, it's unlikely that the new Coro Coro will reveal too much, considering that we still have 8 more months until release. My advice is to expect nothing at all, because then anything that appears will seem more than you expected :P __________________ Credits for avatar go to my friend Seraphinu! My Scramble Challanges: Found here Current Challange: Hard Emerald Scramble No more video updates, sorry! The Gauntlet Challenge! Need help learning how to battle or getting into the Smogon community? Use the Mentorship Program!

Feb 8th, 2013, 10:55:58 PM	#3990
Yveltal Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 724 From the House of Precious	this is for all of you who feel that you need it: __________________ Serving up shade since it was relevant. Nothing ever breaks except for my spirit, and even that much is self-inflicted.

Feb 9th, 2013, 12:25:02 AM	#3996
shockwave527 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 469	Here's my opinion on possible Secondary starter types. This is just my thoughts on what it could be (not based off designs or anything, but any possible types from anywhere and which are extremely unlikely. ... Let's list the types: Normal, Fire, Water, Grass, Electric, Flying, Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice, Dragon, Ghost I will remove these in groups. Let's start with the first set: Fire, Water, and Grass These are unlikely secondary types, as they ARE the starting types, and adding them, unless for all three, seems confusing and HIGHLY unlikely. Left: Normal, Electric, Flying, Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice, Dragon, Ghost Next: Normal Normal is an incredibly rare second type to have, unless you are also flying. Few pokemon have gotten it before, and they have it right from the start. To have a pokemon gain a normal typing is just strange, unlikely for starters, and if they wanted something to be "normal" they'd probably just leave it as a (much more likely) monotype. Left: Electric, Flying, Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice, Dragon, Ghost Next: Dragon and Ghost These are two of the end-game power types. They are extremely rare, and few pokemon have these typings. To give this to a starter just seems far off and overpowered. It's a slight possibility, but doesn't really sit well with any other of the possibilities. Given Dragon has resistance against all starting types, I just can't see this at all. Then again, I would have probably said steel too, but: Empoleon. I'm leaving steel in for now. Left: Electric, Flying, Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice Next: Flying This may seem weird, but listen. I find this on the same vane as Dragon and Ghost. While this HAS been done before, I don't see them doing it again. Flying just doesn't sit as a starting type, as it's main purpose is usually just that: to fly. Charizard couldn't, so he was somewhat balanced in that respect, but it just doesn't really fit. Charizard was also gen 1 when they were still trying things out, and they haven't gone back to that typing. While flying isn't OP like Dragon and Ghost, it's more of a useful type (useful in one of the types you NEED for HMs, pretty much) and doesn't fit with being a starter. Left: Electric, Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice Next: Electric I've seen people speculating Froakie as electric. Here's why not. Electric is GF's "pet type", so to speak. If there were to be a fourth starter, it'd be electric. See: Pikachu. With Pikachu still ever-present in the anime, always having an electric rodent and that being more of a bonus starter type, it wouldn't work for them to add that to a starter. Left: Ground, Rock, Bug, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice Next: Bug Bug is a weak, beginning type. Perfect for a starter, right? Wrong. Bugs seem to ALWAYS be based off of a bug. They are weaker beginning pokemon and don't fit with the eventual power of the starters. I know there are powerful bug types, but most evolve early and are EXTREMELY bug-like. Seeing as we have a fox, a rodent, and a frog, bug is out. This could still happen in the future with a more prevalently bug pokemon, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Left: Ground, Rock, Dark, Psychic, Fighting, Poison, Steel, Ice Okay, now for a little divvying up. These are the types I see as POSSIBLE. Yet, there is one type here that stands out to me from all the others which I'd like to set aside. Next: Ice Ice is a possible starter type. But one thing to say: only for Froakie. Ice doesn't work well with grass or fire, especially in starters and THESE starters. None of them would really work with ice, and, while I don't see Froakie as an ice man, I'm not ruling out the possibility. EDIT: Now, I'll go over the rest, rated by how likely I think they'll be: Ground (7) VERY likely, probably the most likely outside Dark/Psychic/Fighting. Most likely on Fennekin (as a desert fox) and Chespin (as a possibly digging mammal), but unlikely for Froakie. Rock (3) Somewhat likely, but not too much. COULD happen to Fennekin, but not very likely. Most likely, if anything, to happen to Chespin. Dark (7) Likely. Works in the reverse type triangle idea. Assumed to be paired with Chespin and could work, yet could also work if paired with Fennekin as well, depending on the final form. Psychic (7) Likely. Works in the reverse type triangle idea. Assumed to be paired with Fennekin and could work, yet could also work if paired with Froakie as well (wise frog look), depending on the final form. Fighting (8) VERY likely, as fighting is the most common starter type aside from water, fire and grass. Works in the reverse type triangle idea. Assumed to be paired with Froakie and could work, yet could also work if paired with Chespin as well, depending on the final form (giant bear or ninja-like-thing). Poison (4) Somewhat likely. Could work with Froakie as he seems poison-dart-frog-ish, however it seems possible for fennekin to gain poison although unlikely. Unless there is a drastic change in design (which is not impossible), I do not see this happening to Chespin. Steel (3) Once again, an unlikely type yet could be repeated. Highly unlikely with Fennekin (once again, barring major change), but slighlty possible with Chespin (say, if it gains a shell or something). Could also, in theory, work with Froakie. Ice (2) [Only possible with Water] Not very likely and not seeable in froakies future, however, curveballes have been thrown before and the option is still there. But he definately seems much more tropical to me, so I'd just count ice out. (If you just read what's below this and don't understand why, my reasoning is hidden because, well, it's REALLY long.) FINAL VERDICT: *Possible secondary types (Rated 1-10 on likeliness)* Ground (7) Rock (3) Dark (7) Psychic (7) Fighting (8) Poison (4) Steel (3) Ice (2) [Only possible with Water] And, of course, it's still possible for any to just stay monotype too. EDIT: I have added reasonings for the likelinesses for each pokemon to gain any of the types I did not count out, and possibilities relating to those types in future forms, so if you missed that, that is there now. __________________ TEAM CHESPIN TEAM VELOCIRAPTOR Last edited by shockwave527; Feb 9th, 2013 at 4:42:10 AM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:21:22 AM	#3997
Quark Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 48 In my secret base, it's a secret.	@shockwave527 I understand your reasoning for electric, but I don't feel as though that rules out electric as a secondary type. Even if the developers are concerned with how the new starters will mesh with the anime, the electric type probably wouldn't come about until an evolution or two, and Ash's Pokemon in the anime have a habit of not evolving. They could just treat it like Totodile and not have Froakie evolve, keeping Pikachu as the electric on the team. That being said, I don't think it is too likely unless those bubbles become a cloud or something. I just don't think we can rule it out yet. __________________ I am not sure what to use for an avatar, so I think I'll use a quark. They're small, so you may not see it.

Feb 8th, 2013, 7:43:00 PM	#3977
Farrac Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 80 Alcalá de Henares, Spain	Eevee--->Eeveelution--->Third normal type evolution

Feb 8th, 2013, 10:21:33 PM	#3986
Narutendo3 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 261	... I think these are among the better looking and more likely starter evos. This is basically the only Fennekin evo fan art that isn't too generic and actually fits the whole desert fox thing.

Feb 8th, 2013, 11:22:41 PM	#3993
shadowclaw191 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 46	Can we have male gothorita to evolve to a dark/psychic? To be like male kirlia who evolved to psychic. Using the dusk stone on it cause its dark. And the chespin evolvin into a kangaroo shape looks like a good last stage for him. And he grows 6 arms with boxing gloves like a quirk from the miscrits Game. And based on wat i see in previous fire Starters, the last evo WILL always have a visible Fire pattern. Like charizard tail, typhlosion back and so on. So fennekin becomes a will-o-wisp that is Shaped like A werewolf And becomes a fire ghost Type. (A werewolf idea is seriously cool though. If the ghost doesnt make it, fire/fightin werewolf?) Water pokemon normally have a either a Singnature move or A singnature 'weapon' on it. Blastoise guns(hydro cannon), feraligatr tail or TEETH(waterfall or aqua tail?)., swampert with its earthquake detection stuff(muddy water), empoleon with is large metal claws(dunno its singnature move Brine? Aqua jet?) Samurott with its large horn( razor shelll) or froakie evolves into a mass of bubbles that float around an washes ppl to death. Or a thundercloud that goes boom each time it farts. Water/poison type for both options.

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:22:02 AM	#3998
HabibsHotDogs Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 246	Interesting extrapolations you have there but the only types I see as completely out of the question are fire/water/grass/dragon as secondary types. Even ghost seems reasonable and I will not at all be surprised if Chespin becomes the Grass/Ghost a lot of people want! The reason why fire/water/grass will not work are obvious. As for dragon it is simply because in order for the triangle to exist, you can not have a dragon secondary typing! The exception is exclusively for the grass type (Chespin) to have the dragon typing as a secondary as the water type can easily get a poison/flying/bug/ice secondary and still hit it for SE damage. If the water had dragon as a secondary typing... the grass would NEED dragon or at the very worst steel as its secondary typing. If the fire type had dragon as a secondary typing.. then water would NEED dragon/rock/ground and as rock is highly unlikely given Froakie's model and ground just doesn't fit (inb4 it is part ground)..

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:29:57 AM	#3999
Zabel Zarock Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 109 Zombie World	Judging by their appearance and coloring alone I'd say Chespin will become a Grass/Ground, Fennekin would be pure Fire, and Froakie might be Water/Ice in the end. But as we learned they could become anything at this point. __________________ "I'm dead and lively today as usual!!"