Pokémon X and Y Discussion

[Dilasc]

Originally Posted by Fat cant say

I think there will be more prevos than evos, some 'mons should not be coming out of eggs (Lapras, Onix, Tropius etc). Gen IV gave as plenty of new evos IMO.
I'd still rather more completely new Pokemon than expanded evolution lines.

All of those and no KANGASKHAN? As in, the thing that hatches with a baby in its pouch!

We could do with some baby Kang... maybe a two gendered thing that evolves into Kang or a male counterpart based on... well, gender!

Hopefully, they's stay thematic to Mongolian warlords and name the baby something clever like Kubliskhan.

[Scorpio]

Originally Posted by Fat Dilasc

All of those and no KANGASKHAN? As in, the thing that hatches with a baby in its pouch!

We could do with some baby Kang... maybe a two gendered thing that evolves into Kang or a male counterpart based on... well, gender!

Hopefully, they's stay thematic to Mongolian warlords and name the baby something clever like Kubliskhan.

Seconding this.

[Darigan]

Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Honestly, I doubt it'll have anything special to it.

Charmander(#4), Gloom(#44), and Gabite(#444) didn't have anything strange about them, and Japan has some pretty major superstitions about the number 4. (Because shi can mean both 'four' and death'.) To the point where some buildings don't have a 4th, 14th, 24th, etc floor. #43 is almost never used in maternity wards because the pronunciation sounds somewhat like a pronunciation for 'still birth'. Oddish ain't no stillborn baby.

If they're completely ignoring Japanese superstitions like that, I seriously doubt that they'll make a devil-mon #666.

Considering the pokedex this generation will start at 650 it's safe to assume pokemon #666 will be a simple bug/bird/rodent.

[The Diverman]

I know I said I was going to wait until they just tell us, but......
I saw someone post this on another forum pertaining to Sylveon name origin:

Sylvanshine- a type of optical phenomenon in which trees reflect rays of light, esp. via water on the leaves.

Well this is going to be fun.

[-NLMRY-]

Originally Posted by Fat The Diverman

I know I said I was going to wait until they just tell us, but......
I saw someone post this on another forum pertaining to Sylveon name origin:

Sylvanshine- a type of optical phenomenon in which trees reflect rays of light, esp. via water on the leaves.

Well this is going to be fun.

syl·van [sil-vuhn] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or inhabiting the woods.
2.
consisting of or abounding in woods or trees; wooded; woody: a shady, sylvan glade.
3.
made of trees, branches, boughs, etc.

Syl·va·ner [sil-vah-ner, -van-er] Show IPA
noun
1.
a white grape grown in the Alsace region of France and in Switzerland, Germany, and Austria.
2.
a mild white wine made from this grape.

syl·van·ite [sil-vuh-nahyt] Show IPA
noun
a mineral, gold silver telluride, (AuAg)Te 2 , silver-white with metallic luster, often occurring in crystals so arranged as to resemble written characters: an ore of gold.

I guess Sylveon will either be Light, Grass, Grape, or Gold type...

[Quickster]

Unlikely. If you look at Sylveon's German or French names, you'll see that they come from either fairy (Fee) or nymph. Sylveon, therefore, should come from the word sylph.

[b2j135]

Originally Posted by Fat Coronis

Will be interesting to see what Pokemon #666 is like.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's Sylveon...calling it NOW!

[skitz0phrenic]

Originally Posted by Fat SmashBrosBrawl

So a rock water becomes a bug after being given cybernetic implants and has a movepool and name change besides losing its preevo. Pretty solid.

So you're saying 300 million years of technological advances can't completely change something? K.

[Lord Jesseus]

Genesect looks nothing like Kabutops, the only similarity is posture and being "vaguely bug-like".

[Ingo]

Originally Posted by Fat skitz0phrenic

So you're saying 300 million years of technological advances can't completely change something? K.

I'd say by a very big stretch, the rock typing could change to steel, like onix and steelix. But someone would have to use a very damn good explanation to tell me how water changes to bug O.O.

If Kabutops had been bug/rock, or bug/water, or bug/steel itself, then we could be having a discussion, but as it is rock/water to Genesect's Bug/Steel....well the rule of thumb is that an evolution/prevo usually shares either one or both of the typing's of the parent.

[b2j135]

Originally Posted by Fat Ingo

I'd say by a very big stretch, the rock typing could change to steel, like onix and steelix. But someone would have to use a very damn good explanation to tell me how water changes to bug O.O.

If Kabutops had been bug/rock, or bug/water, or bug/steel itself, then we could be having a discussion, but as it is rock/water to Genesect's Bug/Steel....well the rule of thumb is that an evolution/prevo usually shares either one or both of the typing's of the parent.

Now that I think about it, the ONLY Pokemon shown to evolve from one type to a whole new type non-related to the previous are the Eeveelutions. None of them are Normal/X but just a new type all together. Is there any other Pokemon with this trait or is it just Eevee?

[Treadshot A1]

Originally Posted by Fat b2j135

Now that I think about it, the ONLY Pokemon shown to evolve from one type to a whole new type non-related to the previous are the Eeveelutions. None of them are Normal/X but just a new type all together. Is there any other Pokemon with this trait or is it just Eevee?

Azurill. Though that's an enigma in itself.

[Deglas]

Originally Posted by Fat Treadshot A1

Azurill. Though that's an enigma in itself.

There is a reason for Azurill's bizzareness. It is a modified Cleffa clone. Many of the strange things (type, gender ratio, catch rate [harder to catch than Marill]) are the same as Cleffa's, and it has the same evolution method, as well as Egg Group and Experience curve. Also, they are both Baby Pokemon. At least this is the best theory I know of

[TM13IceBeam]

Originally Posted by Fat Darigan

Considering the pokedex this generation will start at 650 it's safe to assume pokemon #666 will be a simple bug/bird/rodent.

it can be a toss-up, i guess. assuming that gamefreak doesn't pull off a victini again and stick it in the middle of nowhere, the starters will run up to 658, leaving 7 guys in the middle from 659 to 665.

honestly we don't really have a clue as to what the earlygame pokemon are like, it could even be that 666 is a standalone by itself without an evolution family

[Ingo]

Originally Posted by Fat Treadshot A1

Azurill. Though that's an enigma in itself.

I remembered eevee, but eevee is an obviously special case.
However Azurill......
It also can change genders so it too is a special case???

[TM13IceBeam]

Originally Posted by Fat Ingo

I remembered eevee, but eevee is an obviously special case.
However Azurill......
It also can change genders so it too is a special case???

probably a leftover from the cleffa clone, they forgot to change gender ratio and decided not to give three shits about it anymore

[Alice in Strings]

Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

probably a leftover from the cleffa clone, they forgot to change gender ratio and decided not to give three shits about it anymore

I guess it's a special case in laziness?

I'm actually very skeptical about the 3-D battle system; I'm concerned it'll end up being a Stadium clone, and I want it to be a Pokemon game like we've grown up with.

[Ingo]

Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

I guess it's a special case in laziness?

I'm actually very skeptical about the 3-D battle system; I'm concerned it'll end up being a Stadium clone, and I want it to be a Pokemon game like we've grown up with.

Copying stadium is bad
But keeping it the same is even worse!
Change has to happen, gen 5 started the trend, and I'd like it to continue
Although (I didn't have a problem with it, but it seems to be a big gripe) Unova was admittedly linear, and if they can change that, it will be good.
If anything, this game should take notes from Colliseum (misspelled excuse me)

[Basileus]

Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

it can be a toss-up, i guess. assuming that gamefreak doesn't pull off a victini again and stick it in the middle of nowhere, the starters will run up to 658, leaving 7 guys in the middle from 659 to 665.

honestly we don't really have a clue as to what the earlygame pokemon are like, it could even be that 666 is a standalone by itself without an evolution family

The only thing I will garuntee you is that the entire fan base will make endless jokes about it, regardless of design and playability of the Pokemon itself.

[Zabel Zarock]

Originally Posted by Fat Lord Jesseus

Genesect looks nothing like Kabutops, the only similarity is posture and being "vaguely bug-like".

Originally Posted by Fat Ingo

I'd say by a very big stretch, the rock typing could change to steel, like onix and steelix. But someone would have to use a very damn good explanation to tell me how water changes to bug O.O.

If Kabutops had been bug/rock, or bug/water, or bug/steel itself, then we could be having a discussion, but as it is rock/water to Genesect's Bug/Steel....well the rule of thumb is that an evolution/prevo usually shares either one or both of the typing's of the parent.

I might be adding more fire to this but since I missed what I started I might as well.

Genesect and Kabutops don't exactly share the same body types at all. It doesn't have Kabutops' scythe claws which was its main use of attack and relies on the cannon on the back, as the pokedex implies that it had the cannon at the start and Team Plasma upgraded it.

While the trilobite is an early arthropod, its not exactly a bug either. Its a broad term with trilobites since they can be more related to crabs than anything. Genesect is based on a prehistoric cockroach and it was resurrected by Team Plasma so its not consistent with Kabutops since they would be in very different time periods but I digress.

We'll never know with Game Freak's inconsistency. But it would be nice to have the unmodified Genesect though. It might be weaker and lacking of a steel type but it would be interesting never the less.

[b2j135]

Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

I guess it's a special case in laziness?

I'm actually very skeptical about the 3-D battle system; I'm concerned it'll end up being a Stadium clone, and I want it to be a Pokemon game like we've grown up with.

If I'm reading this corretly, your just talking about how the battles playout in 3D, like on Pokemon Stadium?
Well from what we've seen so far it looks as if the battles are going to be similar to Stadium series more so than the Colosseum series. I think hope we will still see Pokemon come up to one another and then attack like as shown here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...KwfN-DI#t=117s

[EsurioXY]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Ideally, babies would allow for earlier access of Pokemon, rather than finding their now-evolved forms.
see: Elekid/Magby in Virbank, Bonsly/Mime Jr. in DP

But it's fairly inconsistent (platinum used Sudowoodo & Mr. Mime; DPt all used Chansey over Happiny; etc).

Superflous they may be, but I would find it interesting if Rufflet, Vullaby & Pawniard all got pre-evos if only to stave off the long wait. I'd also like it if they would just retcon the need for incense away.

I agree. Though I'd think it'd be more likely to see a Bisharp evolution and I'd rather see that as yay chess! Queen evolution would be the sweeper at a decreased defense and a King evolution would be more bulky.

[TM13IceBeam]

Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

I guess it's a special case in laziness?

sterile nidoqueens say hi

[GeeZee]

Originally Posted by Fat Zabel Zarock

I might be adding more fire to this but since I missed what I started I might as well.

...the pokedex implies that it had the cannon at the start and Team Plasma upgraded it.

The BW2 Pokédex says something else...

Also, I hope gen VI evens things out, like the base stats of some Pokémon. Look at Nidoking, he's huge but his base stats are so mediocre, and he's not the only one...

[Flaming Piranha]

To change the subject from this Genesect/Kabutops argument (which I started by accident :p ), I want to see mass trades implemented. For example, 3 pokemon from your party for 3 pokemon in another persons party. My brother wanted me to teach all his Pokémon good TM moves (because I'd completed the whole game and he was halfway through) and it took ages and just got tedious after I had to trade 12 times (there and back). I think it'd be a pretty cool feature.