Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 255

shockwave527 · Mar 3rd, 2013, 8:45:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dark Fallen Angel

I had such sort of idea some time ago. They could introduce hate-based evolutions, that would grow into darker Pokémon (not Dark-type Pokémon, although I was thinking something like Dark Synchro from Yu-Gi-Oh). However, I didn't thougth if they could have a difference from common Pokémon.

Of course this is only a creative idea. Although I still think that this generation will be somewhat Light/Darkness battle-themed, I doubt that they would introduce such sort of evolution.

See:
Shadow Pokemon

Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness

**Mario With Lasers** · Mar 3rd, 2013, 9:42:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat GatoDelFuego

On one section of the pokedex there are 8 water types in a row, of multiple evolutions. Would gamefreak every do something like that? That many pokemon of the same type together?

Clamperl, Huntail, Gorebyss, Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein, Relicanth, Luvdisc.

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Originally Posted by Fat Flaming Piranha

Bulbapedia states otherwise

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While its main concept is based around computer modelling, some of its origin lies in origami too.

And yet, they didn't explain why it's based on origami. Polygon modeling alone is reasonable enough.

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Willing to bet that bulbapedia is actively reaching here for no real reason.
Porygon really doesn't have much in common with origami cranes, namely due to the lack of, like, wings. Aka the central point of the origami crane

e: Like how Bulbapedia states

I read that interview back when sabonea_masukippa translated it. So far as I recall they did not state ANYTHING about "cybernetic" origins, just that their original designs were based around tanks

I can vouch for that, I simply can't recall anything cybernetic at all, only "tank dragon yeaahhhhh".

Infernis · Mar 3rd, 2013, 9:45:52 PM

Yeah, when you start getting into the water routes of Hoenn, practically every new Pokemon is water-type. (And most of the old Pokemon, too!) Even the birds, by jove.

Magistrum · Mar 3rd, 2013, 10:25:21 PM

About the happiness/hate evolution issue, they did reveal a 'bonding' system, so perhaps the idea isn't too farfetched. I could imagine something like golbat being revamped into going to the hate route in order to evolve into crobat.

Lord Jesseus · Mar 3rd, 2013, 10:27:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Yeah, when you start getting into the water routes of Hoenn, practically every new Pokemon is water-type. (And most of the old Pokemon, too!) Even the birds, by jove.

Maybe team magma had the right idea after all

cantab · Mar 3rd, 2013, 10:57:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Magistrum

About the happiness/hate evolution issue, they did reveal a 'bonding' system, so perhaps the idea isn't too farfetched. I could imagine something like golbat being revamped into going to the hate route in order to evolve into crobat.

More likely would seem to be a branch evolution. Considering some of Golbat's Pokemon entries, the hatred evolution would probably be serious nightmare fuel.

Yveltal · Mar 3rd, 2013, 10:58:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Willing to bet that bulbapedia is actively reaching here for no real reason.
Porygon really doesn't have much in common with origami cranes, namely due to the lack of, like, wings. Aka the central point of the origami crane

e: Like how Bulbapedia states

I read that interview back when sabonea_masukippa translated it. So far as I recall they did not state ANYTHING about "cybernetic" origins, just that their original designs were based around tanks

R N, don't be mean to the Bulba editors. They've had that origin entry for months.
Also, there was a mentioning about Pokemon evolving through friendship. When I say methodical evolution, I mean any evolution caused by use of an item/stone, holding an item, holding an item while trading, trading, or location-based evolution. Lavelling up and use of the friendship mechanic are both natural happenings that are bound to occur when a Pokemon is with a trainer long enough. Much of the Pokemon that evolve from methodical evolution are at a third state of being, or in other words, have evolved twice. Game Freaks second rule of evolution that no one Pokemon can evolve more than twice, even though many Pokemon are connected to more than two species by evolution, helps drive home the limits of methodical evolution.
So, I don't think Starmie should be able to evolve by past evidence of unwritten rules of evolution.

**R_N** · Mar 3rd, 2013, 11:16:30 PM

I think the fact that Porygon evolves by trade twice is proof enough that gamefreak probably doesn't care too much if they double up on a method for a line.
The movepools for stone evos, though....

EsurioXY · Mar 3rd, 2013, 11:24:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat IcyMan28

Not too sure about that, it would be a pretty big oversight. Piloswine, for example, has had access to Ancientpower (via breeding) since its introduction in Gen 2. Lickitung has had access to Rollout since Gen 2, via TM04. So they overlooked half of those evolutions that require a certain move for evolution (Yanma and Tangela being the other two, Aipom's move wasn't introduced until Gen 4 so it doesn't count).

Who is to say that the particular trainer isn't also a serious reason for the pokemon to evolve or not? Why does that one trainer have a level 60 Magikarp?

Consider Red/Blue they were not skilled enough to evolve Eevee through happiness. Likewise Silver/Gold probably were unable to evolve Aipom because they could not even have Aipom learn the proper move.

Beyond all of this who is to say that evolution is a static thing? Consider that pokemon evolve to adapt and that many evolutions are actually the work of man forcing evolution onto the pokemon (all trade/item/stone) evolutions. Licklicky could merely represent man finding a way to force Lickingtounge to evolve.

I really am of the opinion that the games are abstractions of thing that can't simply be made into a balanced RPG. Figure that a twelve year old is always somehow this awesome trainer and everyone else, even people dedicating their lives to it, can not compete to what he can do in a month or more.

Realistically levels don't exist in the pokeworld, its just some useful game abstraction. Likewise evolution methods can't be highly complex and they must be abstracted, this is a great way to handwave inconsistencies...

However nothing hand-waves the incense 'babies'.... other than... once again... man purposefulling forcing a fetal pokemon to be born to early so that its in a completely pointless, but cute, form. Like a toy dog!

shytende · Mar 4th, 2013, 2:50:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dark Fallen Angel

I had such sort of idea some time ago. They could introduce hate-based evolutions, that would grow into darker Pokémon (not Dark-type Pokémon, although I was thinking something like Dark Synchro from Yu-Gi-Oh). However, I didn't thougth if they could have a difference from common Pokémon.

Of course this is only a creative idea. Although I still think that this generation will be somewhat Light/Darkness battle-themed, I doubt that they would introduce such sort of evolution.

I had this idea about a split-evo of Buneary.
But I think it's highly unlikely. Everything in Pokemon is about treating them well.
Frustration is basically useless.

**Taylor** · Mar 4th, 2013, 3:48:50 AM

Pokemon Types

Reliable or not, this is an interesting article.

I noticed there was a Houndoom evolution in that list, though the name leaves little to be desired. Heracross also gets itself a pre-evolution judging from what I've read so far.

There's also a Dragon/Fighting type as well which sounds competitively promising but its name looks legendaryISH so I'd assume it's probably uber.

The long awaited Ghost/Steel-typing has made its way into Pokemon by the looks of this list; hopefully its ability is Levitate.

CJorex · Mar 4th, 2013, 4:09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Taylor

Pokemon Types

Reliable or not, this is an interesting article.

I noticed there was a Houndoom evolution in that list, though the name leaves little to be desired. Heracross also gets itself a pre-evolution judging from what I've read so far.

There's also a Dragon/Fighting type as well which sounds competitively promising but its name looks legendaryISH so I'd assume it's probably uber.

The long awaited Ghost/Steel-typing has made its way into Pokemon by the looks of this list; hopefully its ability is Levitate.

It has already been decided that this is most likely fake

**Taylor** · Mar 4th, 2013, 5:28:55 AM

Yeah, I thought the same when I read the first screenshot in the slideshow because I know Dragon / Fighting & Ghost / Steel are offensively and defensively perfect as far as coverage goes and loads of players want to see these introduced. Houndoomed almost gives it away because all it's doing is adding a tense to the original name.

I'm excited to see some of these new type combinations and was hoping if anyone could confirm or speculate whether some of these dual-types in this article would be reasonably good, real or not. Fighting / Flying would be kind of cool to try out.

Soul Fly · Mar 4th, 2013, 6:37:39 AM

This list was leaked today on 4chan. We all know how much trust we can place in 4chan but still looks legit enough for speculation:

I do know that this has partially leaked and shared here before, this is the complete comprehensive list along with the pokedex numbers and typings.

Cobraroll · Mar 4th, 2013, 7:26:46 AM

^That exact list has been thoroughly discussed for TWO DAYS now...

Soul Fly · Mar 4th, 2013, 7:59:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cobraroll

^That exact list has been thoroughly discussed for TWO DAYS now...

Oh really? I was under the impression that the first one was incomplete since I can across this on 4chan today only.

Anyways no big deal. Will save some back linking I guess.

Rayquaza_ · Mar 4th, 2013, 8:02:31 AM

I have to admit some of these are pretty clever.
Fore example, Darumaka's hypotetical split evo is based on a Yukidaruma (i.e. Japanese snowman), which makes complete sense.

And yes, they actually are snowmen with a heat/light source inside them, which explains the fire/ice type: http://babelhut.com/languages/japane...anese-snowmen/

Blazi · Mar 4th, 2013, 8:04:32 AM

I hope the list is fake to be honest. While some typings are awesome (Flying/Fighting and Ghost/Steel), the names of the pokemon are very fake-ish. I mean, Cocojoe, Jacoq, Flyby'Nyte, Toilelite? I know the last few generations had some weird names, but this is a bit too much, even after the new legendaries. Thank god we'll know soon if he's trolling or not.

Menorka · Mar 4th, 2013, 8:19:04 AM

Have been looking for poke rumors for a while now, and had to say that Jacoq makes perfect sense for a cardgame based legendary, (being Jack+Coq obvoiusly), they seem to follow the jack - ace formula for all the legendary name. I hope these rumors are true as there seems to be some really well thought out names and designs, still they seem almost too good to be true.

Rayquaza_ · Mar 4th, 2013, 8:31:21 AM

Yeah the legendary quartet is another clever one, considering it's also loosely based on the Shijin (bird, turtle/snake, tiger and dragon).
It wouldn't be the first time a legendary group of pokemon is based on more than one concept (the Regi quartet is based on Hebrew golems as well as ice/stone/iron/mesozoic ages).

The idea of an ice/dark tiger pokemon with an "Ace" theme is really intriguing (especially if it has a stats layout similiar to Raikou), which is why I'm going to be really disappointed once this is confirmed to be fake.

Cobraroll · Mar 4th, 2013, 9:29:49 AM

If the list turns out to be fake, I kind of hope the creator will step forward, because as stated, it's a very well crafted "leak".

I'm no experienced Fakédex-er, but it appears he's been working on the material for a while. It seems like the list of Pokémon, Gym Leaders, etc, was created well beforehand. That really isn't the hard part, there are many people who have made something similar.
However, the way it was presented is rather well done. Instead of going all-out with everything, and have it written off as another wishlist, he first presented it as if he had very limited access to the stuff, recited from memory or brief info sheets. Quick descriptions from artwork, small overview of game features, some interface, etc. He refers to specific points in the trailer, having explanations for minute details, and so on. He has all the designs ready, all names and so on. However, to avoid inconsistencies, he pretends not to know much, instead portioning out his stuff little by little. This way, nothing he says goes against anyhting he will say later.
Later on, he appears to correct a misconception from his earlier post (the part of the trainers being non-customisable), as well as presenting a little more of his stuff. Still no names and no definites on the Pokémon side, but he's suspiciously specific when it comes to Gym Leaders, Elite Four, and place names.

The third update, he appears to have gutsed. Many people have pretended to work for GameFreak, posting tidbits of information that don't line up with each other. Eventually, people write off every new "leak" as just wishful thinking camouflaged as official leaks to generate discussion. Mr. XY could either keep feeding us more and more information until GameFreak decidedly blows his cover (by disproving stuff he said), creating a long-wided but low-intensity discussion, or go all out with his entire Pokémon list, using the momentum of his two other "leaks" to spur a super-intense discussion with a LOT higher risk of being disproven. Once GameFreak releases a single name that isn't in accordance with the list, the game would be over. However, until that happens, the discussion goes back and forth, generating more attention than all the other alleged "leaks" combined. It's a near-perfect trolling, its consistency and quality managing to even sway some sceptics. The names sound very much like something GameFreak would do. The types and designs are in accordance. Some names are very clever, seeming random at first but making sense if you know what they are referring to. New type combos are abundant, and many of them figure high on the "want list" of enthusiasts and competitive players. Old fan-favourite Pokémon receive evolutions. The list has lots of stuff the players want to see, lots of stuff we would expect to see from GameFreak, but it doesn't overdo it completely.

If this is fake, it has accomplished its objective. Every Pokémon fan site has a thread or two discussing it. Many fans have swallowed the bait completely. Many are sceptical (myself included), but even they agree this is very well crafted. Any news from GameFreak refusing what we've been presented could blow the list completely. On the other hand, any news from GameFreak not refusing it would just cause the debate to stir even higher.

If it's legit, however, Mr. XY should either be looking for a new job soon, or he has done his job well and generated a fantastic amount of PR. Whether or not his bosses wanted this to happen is uncertain, but either way it has got the fans pumped for the game.

Magcargo 2 · Mar 4th, 2013, 9:35:56 AM

Garbarge? What kind of a name is that? If this is true, gamefreak is running out of ideas here.

keys2tkingdom · Mar 4th, 2013, 9:37:20 AM

There is evidence for this list to be real and for it to be fake. And not enough evidence out there to make it a proper judgement. So I'll be putting my money is on a little bit of both. (i.e. Some but not all of the pokes on this list are real - and not just the ones we know about - and/or there are pokes NOT on this list)

Though I will say if it does end up that we get us only ONE new Eevee-lution this gen, it will be on my list of Troll Freak's ultimate trolls.

EDIT: I mean seriously, why just give us one of the remaining Eevee-lutions when they know we want all the other 10? Oh yeah, they're Troll Freak.

Cobraroll · Mar 4th, 2013, 9:55:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Magcargo 2

Garbarge? What kind of a name is that? If this is true, gamefreak is running out of ideas here.

Conceptually, it's not at all different from Trubbish. It follows a pattern that has been present since practically forever. Common word + a couple of extra characters to create a double meaning. See for instance Cloyster or Haunter.
However, last time I checked, a barge was a sort of boat, whereas this 'mon is supposedly Poison/Steel and based on some sort of dumpster. If true, it's not the cleverest of names. That is, there might be a second meaning to it that would make more sense thematically.

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I mean seriously, why just give us one of the remaining Eevee-lutions when they know we want all the other 10? Oh yeah, they're Troll Freak.

Now you're being greedy. They are obviously saving them for generations 7-11. They don't want to use up the entire supply of Eevee types in a single generation, when they can stretch it to at least five. Keep in mind that there will most likely be even more generations of Pokémon in the future, and we could need an Eeveelution or two for them too.

Narutendo3 · Mar 4th, 2013, 10:07:23 AM

You give the creator of "Houndoomed" and the helicopter chespin evo way too much credit. All he's done is slap together concepts people had already speculated about and supported, mixed them in with terrible ideas of his own, and released the mess in chunks. A few of the "leaked" pokemon concepts mentioned earlier were rather creative and original, but the percentage is far too small for GF standards.

Mar 3rd, 2013, 10:25:21 PM	#6354
Magistrum Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 172 Philippines	About the happiness/hate evolution issue, they did reveal a 'bonding' system, so perhaps the idea isn't too farfetched. I could imagine something like golbat being revamped into going to the hate route in order to evolve into crobat. __________________ My deviantART \(ಠ益ಠ)/ My Art Thread \(ಠ益ಠ)/ Fakemon Game Project

Mar 4th, 2013, 3:48:50 AM	#6361
Taylor no.... no i do not look like psyduck Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,988 play?	Pokemon Types Reliable or not, this is an interesting article. I noticed there was a Houndoom evolution in that list, though the name leaves little to be desired. Heracross also gets itself a pre-evolution judging from what I've read so far. There's also a Dragon/Fighting type as well which sounds competitively promising but its name looks legendaryISH so I'd assume it's probably uber. The long awaited Ghost/Steel-typing has made its way into Pokemon by the looks of this list; hopefully its ability is Levitate. __________________

Mar 4th, 2013, 5:28:55 AM	#6363
Taylor no.... no i do not look like psyduck Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,988 play?	Yeah, I thought the same when I read the first screenshot in the slideshow because I know Dragon / Fighting & Ghost / Steel are offensively and defensively perfect as far as coverage goes and loads of players want to see these introduced. Houndoomed almost gives it away because all it's doing is adding a tense to the original name. I'm excited to see some of these new type combinations and was hoping if anyone could confirm or speculate whether some of these dual-types in this article would be reasonably good, real or not. Fighting / Flying would be kind of cool to try out. __________________

Mar 4th, 2013, 6:37:39 AM	#6364
Soul Fly Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 249 Heil calculus!	This list was leaked today on 4chan. We all know how much trust we can place in 4chan but still looks legit enough for speculation: I do know that this has partially leaked and shared here before, this is the complete comprehensive list along with the pokedex numbers and typings. __________________ Birkal: NO ONE ESCAPES THE SWIRLIE Last edited by Soul Fly; Mar 4th, 2013 at 6:56:18 AM.

Mar 4th, 2013, 9:35:56 AM	#6372
Magcargo 2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 499 Skarmory Sands	Garbarge? What kind of a name is that? If this is true, gamefreak is running out of ideas here. __________________ MY SHINY TEETH AND ME MY SHINY TEETH AND ME MY SHINY TEETH AND ME

Mar 3rd, 2013, 9:45:52 PM	#6353
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 477	Yeah, when you start getting into the water routes of Hoenn, practically every new Pokemon is water-type. (And most of the old Pokemon, too!) Even the birds, by jove.

Mar 3rd, 2013, 11:16:30 PM	#6358
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,301	I think the fact that Porygon evolves by trade twice is proof enough that gamefreak probably doesn't care too much if they double up on a method for a line. The movepools for stone evos, though....

Mar 4th, 2013, 7:26:46 AM	#6365
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 698	^That exact list has been thoroughly discussed for TWO DAYS now...

Mar 4th, 2013, 8:02:31 AM	#6367
Rayquaza_ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 694	I have to admit some of these are pretty clever. Fore example, Darumaka's hypotetical split evo is based on a Yukidaruma (i.e. Japanese snowman), which makes complete sense. And yes, they actually are snowmen with a heat/light source inside them, which explains the fire/ice type: http://babelhut.com/languages/japane...anese-snowmen/

Mar 4th, 2013, 8:04:32 AM	#6368
Blazi Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 76	I hope the list is fake to be honest. While some typings are awesome (Flying/Fighting and Ghost/Steel), the names of the pokemon are very fake-ish. I mean, Cocojoe, Jacoq, Flyby'Nyte, Toilelite? I know the last few generations had some weird names, but this is a bit too much, even after the new legendaries. Thank god we'll know soon if he's trolling or not.

Mar 4th, 2013, 8:19:04 AM	#6369
Menorka Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 9	Have been looking for poke rumors for a while now, and had to say that Jacoq makes perfect sense for a cardgame based legendary, (being Jack+Coq obvoiusly), they seem to follow the jack - ace formula for all the legendary name. I hope these rumors are true as there seems to be some really well thought out names and designs, still they seem almost too good to be true.

Mar 4th, 2013, 8:31:21 AM	#6370
Rayquaza_ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 694	Yeah the legendary quartet is another clever one, considering it's also loosely based on the Shijin (bird, turtle/snake, tiger and dragon). It wouldn't be the first time a legendary group of pokemon is based on more than one concept (the Regi quartet is based on Hebrew golems as well as ice/stone/iron/mesozoic ages). The idea of an ice/dark tiger pokemon with an "Ace" theme is really intriguing (especially if it has a stats layout similiar to Raikou), which is why I'm going to be really disappointed once this is confirmed to be fake.

Mar 4th, 2013, 9:29:49 AM	#6371
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 698	If the list turns out to be fake, I kind of hope the creator will step forward, because as stated, it's a very well crafted "leak". I'm no experienced Fakédex-er, but it appears he's been working on the material for a while. It seems like the list of Pokémon, Gym Leaders, etc, was created well beforehand. That really isn't the hard part, there are many people who have made something similar. However, the way it was presented is rather well done. Instead of going all-out with everything, and have it written off as another wishlist, he first presented it as if he had very limited access to the stuff, recited from memory or brief info sheets. Quick descriptions from artwork, small overview of game features, some interface, etc. He refers to specific points in the trailer, having explanations for minute details, and so on. He has all the designs ready, all names and so on. However, to avoid inconsistencies, he pretends not to know much, instead portioning out his stuff little by little. This way, nothing he says goes against anyhting he will say later. Later on, he appears to correct a misconception from his earlier post (the part of the trainers being non-customisable), as well as presenting a little more of his stuff. Still no names and no definites on the Pokémon side, but he's suspiciously specific when it comes to Gym Leaders, Elite Four, and place names. The third update, he appears to have gutsed. Many people have pretended to work for GameFreak, posting tidbits of information that don't line up with each other. Eventually, people write off every new "leak" as just wishful thinking camouflaged as official leaks to generate discussion. Mr. XY could either keep feeding us more and more information until GameFreak decidedly blows his cover (by disproving stuff he said), creating a long-wided but low-intensity discussion, or go all out with his entire Pokémon list, using the momentum of his two other "leaks" to spur a super-intense discussion with a LOT higher risk of being disproven. Once GameFreak releases a single name that isn't in accordance with the list, the game would be over. However, until that happens, the discussion goes back and forth, generating more attention than all the other alleged "leaks" combined. It's a near-perfect trolling, its consistency and quality managing to even sway some sceptics. The names sound very much like something GameFreak would do. The types and designs are in accordance. Some names are very clever, seeming random at first but making sense if you know what they are referring to. New type combos are abundant, and many of them figure high on the "want list" of enthusiasts and competitive players. Old fan-favourite Pokémon receive evolutions. The list has lots of stuff the players want to see, lots of stuff we would expect to see from GameFreak, but it doesn't overdo it completely. If this is fake, it has accomplished its objective. Every Pokémon fan site has a thread or two discussing it. Many fans have swallowed the bait completely. Many are sceptical (myself included), but even they agree this is very well crafted. Any news from GameFreak refusing what we've been presented could blow the list completely. On the other hand, any news from GameFreak not refusing it would just cause the debate to stir even higher. If it's legit, however, Mr. XY should either be looking for a new job soon, or he has done his job well and generated a fantastic amount of PR. Whether or not his bosses wanted this to happen is uncertain, but either way it has got the fans pumped for the game.

Mar 4th, 2013, 9:37:20 AM	#6373
keys2tkingdom Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 32 In the Looking Glass House	There is evidence for this list to be real and for it to be fake. And not enough evidence out there to make it a proper judgement. So I'll be putting my money is on a little bit of both. (i.e. Some but not all of the pokes on this list are real - and not just the ones we know about - and/or there are pokes NOT on this list) Though I will say if it does end up that we get us only ONE new Eevee-lution this gen, it will be on my list of Troll Freak's ultimate trolls. EDIT: I mean seriously, why just give us one of the remaining Eevee-lutions when they know we want all the other 10? Oh yeah, they're Troll Freak. __________________ How a triple battle can destroy a small town: Jolteon, Thunder! Flareon, Fire blast! Vaporeon, Hydro Pump! Electricity, plus fire, plus water... electricity separates water into hydrogen and oxygen, which is then recombined using fire which means—Everybody blasts off—permanently! Last edited by keys2tkingdom; Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:55:08 AM.

Mar 4th, 2013, 10:07:23 AM	#6375
Narutendo3 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 259	You give the creator of "Houndoomed" and the helicopter chespin evo way too much credit. All he's done is slap together concepts people had already speculated about and supported, mixed them in with terrible ideas of his own, and released the mess in chunks. A few of the "leaked" pokemon concepts mentioned earlier were rather creative and original, but the percentage is far too small for GF standards.