Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 43

Charro · Jan 11th, 2013, 8:01:45 AM

Not reveling their types gives me more hope about a "saint" type, and Xerneas being Steel/Saint

Gokuzbu · Jan 11th, 2013, 8:41:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Count Serperior

Xerneas could end up Steel/Rock.
Gamefreak's idea of steel is blue coloring and he has gems on his antlers that could make him a Rock type : /

I do love how it's antlers intertwine

don't they know that type is one of the worst ever? Yet they keep making more and gave it to one of the coolest looking Pokémon, Aggron. Lol trollfreak

Spork · Jan 11th, 2013, 8:59:08 AM

eek new games!

Froakie and Chespin are adorable, Fennekin is pretty cute but kind of uninteresting.

Xerneas has the edge in terms of legendaries for me, but I'd want to wait for other version exclusives before picking a game.

ETA: Psychic seems good to me for Xerneas. Yvetal is obviously flying, but there's always the chance of Levitate (I expect unique abilities, though).

Yvetal has fist-like adornments reminiscent of Fighting types, and there's also a Dark style color palette and perhaps a smoky, Fire type flavor.

Xerneas has a glowing quality similar to certain Psychic types, and a color palette reminiscent of some Steel types.

PureQuestion · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Xerneas

Am I the only one, who believes that Xerneas is way too light, to be a steel type?

EDIT:
It doesnt have that much body mass, since its thin and everything, meaning it could still be a steel type.

This crossed my mind but then Jirachi is a steel type, and it only weights uh, two pounds? There's a fair bit of leeway.

Aurinko · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:06:19 AM

If you want to take the 2nd type (Dark, Fighting, Psychic) game to another level, we could argue about the 2 legendaries being Dark/Flying and Psychic/Rock, which, once again, would give them a sorta "being equal"-feeling. ;p

**Arcticblast** · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:14:02 AM

According to Serebii, some CoroCoro images have come in.

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Originally Posted by Fat Serebii

The first images of CoroCoro have come. As expected, these don't contain much new informarion but do show the artwork and Japanese details for Xerneas & Yveltal. Xerneas (ゼルネアス) is 3.0m tall and 215kg. Yveltal (イベルタル) is 5.8m tall and 203.0kg. Their types, classification and abilities are still unknown.

Images (hot DAMN that is some good Sugimori art

b2j135 · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:16:03 AM

I swear if Yvetal is Dark/Dragon...-_-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Arcticblast

According to Serebii, some CoroCoro images have come in.

Images (hot DAMN that is some good Sugimori art

already done

**Arcticblast** · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:20:17 AM

Oh god dammit. This page gets too many posts in a couple hours...

With the Sugimori art out, Yveltal looks even less Dragon though.

SMZ · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:20:29 AM

I'm liking how Gen VI looks so far.

Anyway, one thing to rant/hope for in Gen VI is... IV modification. Before you haul on me like some mama's boy. I want to say as a competitive player I hate IVs. IVs are ridiculously hard to get "perfectly" with the exception of RNG and even that takes time getting used to and have the patience to do it. IVs alone have stopped me from playing 5th gen Wifi, and only a little in Gen IV. EVs on the other hand are nice, because A- they are a good part for an RPG and B- they're not hard to finish. My proposition is either eliminating IVs or modifying the mechanics so you can have the desired IVs very easily.

"But my past gens efforts T_T" shouldn't be a problem, because you won't have to make such a long time to get the right IVs. "Hidden Power?" they can modify the mechanics.

I for one would much prefer if I could easily make a team in-game (without using of a cheating device) and play online. I do realize I am not the first to complain about IVs, but I really think they should modify them or eliminate them.

That being said, it doesn't mean I'd be outraged if they still kept IVs; I'd still play, but online less frequently and more frequently on simulators.

Cobraroll · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:58:28 AM

One more point concerning the attacks seen in the trailer. This is the intro movie for Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNjejqT_CE&t=45s
Have a look at the attacks Sharpedo and Duskull are using. Neither of them made it to the final game. Or, they might have, but their animations were drastically changed. Duskull's attack bears some resemblance to Grudge, but Sharpedo has no move matching the one it used in the intro. Also note that the animations of Mudkip's and Torchic's attacks were not used in-game either.

Considering this, it's really hard to tell what attacks were used in the X/Y trailer. For all we know, all that animation is pre-beta and very likely to change by the time the games are out. And really, does it matter? Duskull or Sharpedo played no big roles in R/S (perhaps apart from being favourites among Team Aqua), and the moves used by/against them did not make much sense typechart-wise. I don't think we should read that much into the usage of moves. Even assuming those are moves we already know, would be stretching it.

Count Serperior · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:22:15 AM

Whatever that is that Sharpedo shot out of it's mouth... it needs to come back.
Then someone needs to give me a DW Sharpedo and we're all good.

Xerneas · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:29:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat SMZ

I'm liking how Gen VI looks so far.

Anyway, one thing to rant/hope for in Gen VI is... IV modification. Before you haul on me like some mama's boy. I want to say as a competitive player I hate IVs. IVs are ridiculously hard to get "perfectly" with the exception of RNG and even that takes time getting used to and have the patience to do it. IVs alone have stopped me from playing 5th gen Wifi, and only a little in Gen IV. EVs on the other hand are nice, because A- they are a good part for an RPG and B- they're not hard to finish. My proposition is either eliminating IVs or modifying the mechanics so you can have the desired IVs very easily.

"But my past gens efforts T_T" shouldn't be a problem, because you won't have to make such a long time to get the right IVs. "Hidden Power?" they can modify the mechanics.

I for one would much prefer if I could easily make a team in-game (without using of a cheating device) and play online. I do realize I am not the first to complain about IVs, but I really think they should modify them or eliminate them.

That being said, it doesn't mean I'd be outraged if they still kept IVs; I'd still play, but online less frequently and more frequently on simulators.

I also hope they make it even easier to get good IVs, maybe a PKMN reaches its full potential, through friendship or a high level.
They have made it a lot easier in b2/w2 to breed, since Everstone now always works and the ability that the non-DW female has, is being passed on to the child with an 80 percent chance.

b2j135 · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:30:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Count Serperior

Whatever that is that Sharpedo shot out of it's mouth... it needs to come back.
Then someone needs to give me a DW Sharpedo and we're all good.

I think that is just a discolored hyper beam:

Cobraroll · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:38:08 AM

^But considering just about every depiction of the move, ever, I don't think they would colour Hyper Beam black and say "Eh, that should be it. Put it in the intro!" Hyper Beam has always been shown as an intense beam, glowing with energy. They wouldn't just convert it to dirty black like that. Whatever the move was, its animation might have based on the Hyper Beam one, but I seriously doubt it was ever meant to be Hyper Beam.

Count Serperior · Jan 11th, 2013, 11:05:35 AM

I remember Solar Beam had a similar animation, but a different color.
Anyways, I doubt the animations they previewed are gonna be changed.

What concerns me is movement! Using the circle pad to play BW sucked; and in the video you can only see the MC moving straight and turning at right angles (except the swinging part, I know, but that's most likely a gym.)
It's about time to evolve and walk diagonally at least, if not in any direction.

**PK Gaming** · Jan 11th, 2013, 11:46:55 AM

also posting this in this thread because it's RELEVANT

Furosuto · Jan 11th, 2013, 11:51:35 AM

^ Was posted a page or so back, but yeah, it's funny. ^.^

Also, here's to betting that pokemon number 666 will be a dark/ghost type.

Present · Jan 11th, 2013, 11:54:48 AM

nah, #666 will be a flying/saint angel based pokemon considering trollfreak and what not.

hehe

it evolves from kirlia upon defeating 50 dark and or ghost pokemon "_"

Furosuto · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:01:15 PM

^ Lol, actually, knowing gamefreak they would probably pull that. Either that or make number 665 or 667 as a dark type.

MLaRF · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Present

nah, #666 will be a flying/saint angel based pokemon considering trollfreak and what not.

No, I'm pretty sure pokemon #666 is going to be representative of satan, so everyone hates it and it has incredible god-like powers

so

this

(I can't remember the source it's some splicing blog on tumblr)

Xerneas · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:06:28 PM

So,
I just took a close look at the new picture of Xerneas...
Look at his back, it looks like you can see reflections of the colored horns and that could indicate that it is part steel.

Organization Member XIV · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:27:56 PM

I doubt Pokemon #666 will be anything special. Not many Asians are Christian, so not a lot of them would understand there being anything special about the number. Probably gonna be your generic second/third route Pokemon.

tikidude · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:29:33 PM

Froakie is froaking amazing.

inanimate blob · Jan 11th, 2013, 12:31:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Organization Member XIV

I doubt Pokemon #666 will be anything special. Not many Asians are Christian, so not a lot of them would understand there being anything special about the number. Probably gonna be your generic second/third route Pokemon.

Or, you know, they may wuss out and skip the number entirely to avoid imminent controversy.

Ivysaurtrainer · Jan 11th, 2013, 1:06:57 PM

I hope that the type chart gets re balanced and includes more types, and it would be nice to change resisted and super effective attacks to .75X and 1.5 X damage respectively,

And it would be nice if the game mechanics changed to show a decreased focus on item use and stat boosting, seriously Its kind of stupid how I can just be OHKO by any dragon type and have no chance after just one dragon dance or use of choice band.

The choice items need to go.

Oh and there need to be a lot more move effects and options, (more and different field effects, more status...) basically just to vary the game greatly and make Pokemon even more unpredictable.

Jan 11th, 2013, 8:01:45 AM	#1051
Charro Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 385 Argentina	Not reveling their types gives me more hope about a "saint" type, and Xerneas being Steel/Saint __________________ Taste the Rainbow Motherfucker! Black FC: 3611 0758 8565

Jan 11th, 2013, 8:59:08 AM	#1053
Spork Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 381 on the road	eek new games! Froakie and Chespin are adorable, Fennekin is pretty cute but kind of uninteresting. Xerneas has the edge in terms of legendaries for me, but I'd want to wait for other version exclusives before picking a game. ETA: Psychic seems good to me for Xerneas. Yvetal is obviously flying, but there's always the chance of Levitate (I expect unique abilities, though). Yvetal has fist-like adornments reminiscent of Fighting types, and there's also a Dark style color palette and perhaps a smoky, Fire type flavor. Xerneas has a glowing quality similar to certain Psychic types, and a color palette reminiscent of some Steel types. __________________ as if God himself spat like a cornered rat

Jan 11th, 2013, 9:20:17 AM	#1058
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Jan 11th, 2013, 10:22:15 AM	#1061
Count Serperior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Dubai	Whatever that is that Sharpedo shot out of it's mouth... it needs to come back. Then someone needs to give me a DW Sharpedo and we're all good. __________________ Serperior :: Starmie :: Garchomp

Jan 11th, 2013, 11:05:35 AM	#1065
Count Serperior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Dubai	I remember Solar Beam had a similar animation, but a different color. Anyways, I doubt the animations they previewed are gonna be changed. What concerns me is movement! Using the circle pad to play BW sucked; and in the video you can only see the MC moving straight and turning at right angles (except the swinging part, I know, but that's most likely a gym.) It's about time to evolve and walk diagonally at least, if not in any direction. __________________ Serperior :: Starmie :: Garchomp

Jan 11th, 2013, 9:06:19 AM	#1055
Aurinko Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 30	If you want to take the 2nd type (Dark, Fighting, Psychic) game to another level, we could argue about the 2 legendaries being Dark/Flying and Psychic/Rock, which, once again, would give them a sorta "being equal"-feeling. ;p

Jan 11th, 2013, 9:20:29 AM	#1059
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,516 Kingdom of the Two Seas	I'm liking how Gen VI looks so far. Anyway, one thing to rant/hope for in Gen VI is... IV modification. Before you haul on me like some mama's boy. I want to say as a competitive player I hate IVs. IVs are ridiculously hard to get "perfectly" with the exception of RNG and even that takes time getting used to and have the patience to do it. IVs alone have stopped me from playing 5th gen Wifi, and only a little in Gen IV. EVs on the other hand are nice, because A- they are a good part for an RPG and B- they're not hard to finish. My proposition is either eliminating IVs or modifying the mechanics so you can have the desired IVs very easily. "But my past gens efforts T_T" shouldn't be a problem, because you won't have to make such a long time to get the right IVs. "Hidden Power?" they can modify the mechanics. I for one would much prefer if I could easily make a team in-game (without using of a cheating device) and play online. I do realize I am not the first to complain about IVs, but I really think they should modify them or eliminate them. That being said, it doesn't mean I'd be outraged if they still kept IVs; I'd still play, but online less frequently and more frequently on simulators.

Jan 11th, 2013, 9:58:28 AM	#1060
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 750	One more point concerning the attacks seen in the trailer. This is the intro movie for Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNjejqT_CE&t=45s Have a look at the attacks Sharpedo and Duskull are using. Neither of them made it to the final game. Or, they might have, but their animations were drastically changed. Duskull's attack bears some resemblance to Grudge, but Sharpedo has no move matching the one it used in the intro. Also note that the animations of Mudkip's and Torchic's attacks were not used in-game either. Considering this, it's really hard to tell what attacks were used in the X/Y trailer. For all we know, all that animation is pre-beta and very likely to change by the time the games are out. And really, does it matter? Duskull or Sharpedo played no big roles in R/S (perhaps apart from being favourites among Team Aqua), and the moves used by/against them did not make much sense typechart-wise. I don't think we should read that much into the usage of moves. Even assuming those are moves we already know, would be stretching it.

Jan 11th, 2013, 10:38:08 AM	#1064
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 750	^But considering just about every depiction of the move, ever, I don't think they would colour Hyper Beam black and say "Eh, that should be it. Put it in the intro!" Hyper Beam has always been shown as an intense beam, glowing with energy. They wouldn't just convert it to dirty black like that. Whatever the move was, its animation might have based on the Hyper Beam one, but I seriously doubt it was ever meant to be Hyper Beam.

Jan 11th, 2013, 11:46:55 AM	#1066
PK Gaming Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,562 Sumuru city	also posting this in this thread because it's RELEVANT __________________

Jan 11th, 2013, 11:51:35 AM	#1067
Furosuto Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Currently fighting dragons.	^ Was posted a page or so back, but yeah, it's funny. ^.^ Also, here's to betting that pokemon number 666 will be a dark/ghost type. __________________ Minecraft Username: jamster1297 Check out my art thread guys, and give me a pokemon request if you want! ~Furosuto's Chaotic Art~ Also, don't forget to check out my Youtube channel! SUBSCRIBE. TheFurosuto To help me out, check this out too.

Jan 11th, 2013, 11:54:48 AM	#1068
Present Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 340 By choice or chance, you cannot control what you are not aware of.	nah, #666 will be a flying/saint angel based pokemon considering trollfreak and what not. hehe it evolves from kirlia upon defeating 50 dark and or ghost pokemon "_" __________________ Emerald Hard Scramble Brother's Platinum Scramble

Jan 11th, 2013, 12:01:15 PM	#1069
Furosuto Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Currently fighting dragons.	^ Lol, actually, knowing gamefreak they would probably pull that. Either that or make number 665 or 667 as a dark type. __________________ Minecraft Username: jamster1297 Check out my art thread guys, and give me a pokemon request if you want! ~Furosuto's Chaotic Art~ Also, don't forget to check out my Youtube channel! SUBSCRIBE. TheFurosuto To help me out, check this out too.

Jan 11th, 2013, 12:06:28 PM	#1071
Xerneas Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 8	So, I just took a close look at the new picture of Xerneas... Look at his back, it looks like you can see reflections of the colored horns and that could indicate that it is part steel.

Jan 11th, 2013, 12:27:56 PM	#1072
Organization Member XIV Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 624 On top of a giant dragon's back.	I doubt Pokemon #666 will be anything special. Not many Asians are Christian, so not a lot of them would understand there being anything special about the number. Probably gonna be your generic second/third route Pokemon. __________________ Bearkiller on PS, and bearhugger on IRC. I play League of Legends, so there's that. Also free Genesect plz. Me in real life.

Jan 11th, 2013, 12:29:33 PM	#1073
tikidude Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 151 The Land of Ooo	Froakie is froaking amazing.

Jan 11th, 2013, 1:06:57 PM	#1075
Ivysaurtrainer Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 69	I hope that the type chart gets re balanced and includes more types, and it would be nice to change resisted and super effective attacks to .75X and 1.5 X damage respectively, And it would be nice if the game mechanics changed to show a decreased focus on item use and stat boosting, seriously Its kind of stupid how I can just be OHKO by any dragon type and have no chance after just one dragon dance or use of choice band. The choice items need to go. Oh and there need to be a lot more move effects and options, (more and different field effects, more status...) basically just to vary the game greatly and make Pokemon even more unpredictable.