Pokémon X and Y Discussion

[Preved Medved]

Originally Posted by Fat Ivysaurtrainer

I want a panda, koala, cuddle fish, gorilla, a better elephant, komodo dragon,

and I want scyther to have a pre evo. that evolves into scyther and scizor

Komodo dragon is a type of monitor lizard,and we already have one of those

[R_N]

a proper komodo dragon would be fantastic for Poison/Dragon typing

[TheKAM1993]

Salamence is NOT a Komodo Dragon.

[IcyMan28]

Salamence is just a basic dragon. And I agree with R_N; a Komodo dragon would be perfect for Poison/Dragon.

Here's what I'm thinking.

80/110/95/90/95/80 stats, which would be far from broken and let it take advantage of the resistances it's typing offers. Much like Komodo Dragons have toxic bites, it would have the Poison Touch ability (which I'd like to see upgraded to cause Toxic poisoning).

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat IcyMan28

Salamence is just a basic dragon. And I agree with R_N; a Komodo dragon would be perfect for Poison/Dragon.

Here's what I'm thinking.

80/110/95/90/95/80 stats, which would be far from broken and let it take advantage of the resistances it's typing offers. Much like Komodo Dragons have toxic bites, it would have the Poison Touch ability (which I'd like to see upgraded to cause Toxic poisoning).

I think a komodo dragon would have higher speed than 80. They're pretty fast in real life. Maybe switch it with special defense

[Lord Jesseus]

Wait... since when are Komodo dragons poisonous?

So a couple of people have mentioned animals that have yet to have Pokemon equivelants. I've personally noticed that there are some conspicuously absent insects; flies, mosquitoes and cockroaches are all quite common and could easily be Pokemonified. But maybe its their stigma as pests that has caused them to be overlooked...

As far as I know there's no goat either. Some of the Musketeers are sort of goat-like but otherwise more similar to deer or antelope.

[BigZac]

Salamence is based off of a Salamander, isn't it?

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Lord Jesseus

Wait... since when are Komodo dragons poisonous?

So a couple of people have mentioned animals that have yet to have Pokemon equivelants. I've personally noticed that there are some conspicuously absent insects; flies, mosquitoes and cockroaches are all quite common and could easily be Pokemonified. But maybe its their stigma as pests that has caused them to be overlooked...

As far as I know there's no goat either. Some of the Musketeers are sort of goat-like but otherwise more similar to deer or antelope.

While not specifically poisonous, their mouths have nasty bacteria that make their bites equally nasty

[Lord Jesseus]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

While not specifically poisonous, their mouths have nasty bacteria that make their bites equally nasty

Oh I see

But I think a better candidate for the typing would be the actually poisonous Gila Monster.

edit: relevant maybe?

[jones115]

So should we be getting more news next month or maybe this month.

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat Lord Jesseus

Oh I see

But I think a better candidate for the typing would be the actually poisonous Gila Monster.

Gila Monster pokemon can evolve into it
best of both worlds

Originally Posted by Fat jones115

So should we be getting more news next month or maybe this month.

Most likely next month
The only "big" thing I can see happening this month is the official Japanese site going up and even then that might be delayed until more info is ready

[Jimera0]

Originally Posted by Fat Lord Jesseus

Oh I see

But I think a better candidate for the typing would be the actually poisonous Gila Monster.

edit: relevant maybe?

Honestly aside from colouration, I imagine that a Pokemon based on either one would look more or less the same. While they do have very different appearances in real life, those details would be malleable when Pokemonified to the point where determining which one is which would be difficult... unless they give it the distinctive patterning of a gila monster anyway.

[Basileus]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

I think a komodo dragon would have higher speed than 80. They're pretty fast in real life. Maybe switch it with special defense

They can run about 12 MPH if I remember correctly, so about twice times as fast as the average human.

[Infernis]

I would be so happy if Tropius evolved. It was one of my favorite thematic Pokemon from Hoenn. If any one Pokemon represented that region, it would be a Tropius. Chill, covered in flora, and unique. (As far as Pokemon designs go.)

That list of 8 animals Pokemon hasn't done yet forgets that Raikou is already a saber-toothed tiger. (Or at least similar enough to count.)

[jones115]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Gila Monster pokemon can evolve into it
best of both worlds


Most likely next month
The only "big" thing I can see happening this month is the official Japanese site going up and even then that might be delayed until more info is ready

I figured as much,well lets hope pokemon smash reveals something :)

[R_N]

Originally Posted by Fat jones115

I figured as much,well lets hope pokemon smash reveals something :)

I wish people wouldn't hope for that because all it leads to is going "GOD DAMN POKEMON SMASH YOU ARE JUST A WORTHLESS WASTE OF TIME" every single week

[Lord Jesseus]

Originally Posted by Fat Jimera0

Honestly aside from colouration, I imagine that a Pokemon based on either one would look more or less the same. While they do have very different appearances in real life, those details would be malleable when Pokemonified to the point where determining which one is which would be difficult... unless they give it the distinctive patterning of a gila monster anyway.

Idk... Komodos are pretty distinctive.


Gila Monsters have an overall fat and stumpy appearance while Komodos have longer necks and limbs, walk with their belly off the ground, and look more muscly than fat. The way the Komodo raises its head like that isn't really possible for a Gila monster, which barely has a neck to speak of.

I'd say they are quite different, and I think Game Freak would do a better job of showing that then you give them credit for.

edit: Another Lizard that I think could be Pokemonified:

Frilled Lizard.

Maybe Gen 7 could be based on Australia, there's a few critters down here that would make good mons. :P

[Quark]

I support super-tropius, if that wasn't clear before.

Anyway, a Gila monster into a Komodo dragon could work pretty well. I always thought that a Gila monster would work well as a fire/poison type, but I could see a Komodo dragon being dragon/poison. maybe they could start with a fire or Chinese salamander and you could have your pseudo-legendary poke for the region.
maybe not, but it could be a cool three stage evolution line.

[Uncanny Luck]

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

While not specifically poisonous, their mouths have nasty bacteria that make their bites equally nasty

Actually, they are venomous.

[Lord Jesseus]

Originally Posted by Fat Uncanny Luck

Actually, they are venomous.

Oh cool.
Did you read the whole thing though? There's some doubt towards the end.
It's not really a confirmed fact that they are venomous, just a possibility.

[TehGreyCyanide]

In my wishlist for Gen VI there is:

Hidden power to have a permanent Attack base. 70 would be great.
A Physical version of Hidden Power, just because.
IVs should completely dissapear, please.

[b2j135]

Originally Posted by Fat Uncanny Luck

Actually, they are venomous.

Well after reading all of that I REALLY want a Komodo dragon for a pseudo-legendary! The gilla monster can be a another Druddigon for all I care :p
Hell I even came up with a new signature move for the Komodomon
Chomp, a dragon...or a poison type move...I dunno
80 power
100% accuracy
effect is similar to yawn, the opponent takes damage but doesn't get badly poisoned until a turn later

[IcyMan28]

A frilled lizard is also something I'd like for a Poison/Dragon. Including it in a 3-stage line could also justify higher stats.

Poison/Fire Gila Monster Baby -> Poison/Dragon Komodo Dragon Intermediate -> Poison/Dragon Frilled Lizard Final

I could also see the Gila Monster Baby being Poison/Ground or Poison/Rock to begin with, and then subsequently picking up the Dragon-typing.

[Jimera0]

I think it's pretty irrelevant whether Komodo Dragons are actually venemous or not; it's pretty clear by now that the poison type in Pokemon applies for ANY type of poison, be it chemical, venom, infectious or any other type of sickness causing agent you can imagine.

And while yes I'm sure gamefreak could make a Pokemon based off one and include those features, it wouldn't be like gamefreak to do so with something as ultimately generic as "big poisonous lizard". Just look at those pictures for a second, block out the patterning, and tell me that someone who isn't into animals and the like would distinguish the two. To them, they'd just be plain old lizards. So if Gamefreak was to make a Pokemon based on either one, we wouldn't be able to tell which they based it on without confirmation from them, between how similar they are and the fact that details like length of neck, relative girth, height off the ground and all that can easily be argued to be a result of the transformation into a Pokemon. The only feature that would allow us, the players to tell definitively between the two would be Gila Monster like patterning.

Anyway, my ultimate point is I'd see no reason for there to be one Pokemon for both; Gamefreak is much more likely to take the general idea of "lizard with a poisonous bite" and run off that rather than meticulously base a Pokemon off one rather than the other.

Totally agree they need a frilled lizard though. Shit, the frilled lizard is practically a real life Pokemon already!

[Yveltal]

Originally Posted by Fat Flareon

+1 for SuperTropius.

Provided I get Flare Blitz, of course.

What about a Capybara pokemon? Raticate/Bibarel Evo?

Or a Sea Butterfly Water/Bug?

Here's something I'd like to happen, but probably won't: Introduce an additional Rotom Forme, a "TV" forme, where it has the same Base Stats as the other appliance forms, but it keeps it's Ghost/Electric typing, like in Platinum.

Flareon, I will cry with you if you're not granted Flare Blitz.
A capybara that comes from route 1 has had some support in that past in hopes that it would become useful later in the game. Because capybaras rock super hard.

Originally Posted by Fat iKinkajou

No doubt that this has been said before, but Froakie looks a lot like Benjamin Franklin. The game also happens to look like Pariz, a city Benjamin Franklin often visited in the American revolution. He also discovered the LIGHTning was not FIRE but rather a form of ELECTRICITY. He also part of the Americans FIGHTING the British.

Froakie confirmed water/light/electric type.

Pokemon confirmed trytypes

Kinkajou, that's totally your post from page 62, you nutter XP
Trolling with tri-types. I see you've caught the nasty rumor fever