(Ubers) Deoxys-A, Arceus Water, Rayquaza, Kyurem Black, Dialga, Giratina-O

ThisLove · Feb 3rd, 2013, 1:50:54 PM

Hi everyone! I am brand new to competitive pokemon and it would be awesome if you guys could give me tips on my team. I have little idea of what I am doing, but my team attempts to cover all aspects. Thanks!

EKiller (Arceus-Water) @ Splash Plate
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Refresh
- Recover
- Surf
- Calm Mind

Death (Deoxys-Attack) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Mild Nature
- Psycho Boost
- Superpower
- ExtremeSpeed
- Thunderbolt

HeAteZekrom (Kyurem-Black) @ Leftovers
Trait: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Hone Claws
- Freeze Shock
- Fusion Bolt
- Outrage

Toodledoo (Rayquaza) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Air Lock
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage
- V-create
- Draco Meteor

IronMan (Dialga) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 56 SAtk / 200 SDef
Modest Nature
- Flamethrower
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse
- Stealth Rock

CantTouchThis (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 140 SAtk / 12 Spd
Modest Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse

Rate/Hate/Steal please!

Thanks again!

IAmAnHero · Feb 3rd, 2013, 9:49:54 PM

This thread is going to get locked because you didn't give any explanation about your guys which is required. I'll try and help you before that happens though.

I've noticed there are quite a few things wrong with your team. You don't have an Extremekiller Arceus check, you have no phazers, no dragon resists, and Scarf Palkia murders 4 of the people on your team.

First of all I'd change Arceus Water to Kyogre. He brings rain support which really helps your team. It'd allow you to run a Ferrothorn who resists dragon attacks and is also a pretty decent check to Scarf Palkia who is problematic for your team. Since you had a Calm Mind Arceus I don't think Calm Mind Kyogre would be very different.

Kyogre @ Leftovers Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Scald
- Sleep Talk

I think this set would benefit your team because it gives you a bulky boosting attacker that can also act as a sleep absorber because Darkrai is reasonably common.

I'd replace Deoxys A with Ferrothorn because I don't think he brings much to your team. Ferrothorn can check many of the dragon types in ubers.

Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 208 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Spikes
- Thunder Wave/Protect

I'd replace Kyurem B with Skarmory because I was looking for a Pokemon that would give you a pretty solid answer to Extremekiller Arceus because I noticed you had a weakness to him. Skarmory can Toxic Arceus and then phaze him out. Skarmory also gives you another dragon resist which is always good. It also gives you a pretty reliable phazer and it can set up hazards. Skarmory is Taunt bait but since it's relatively uncommon it can catch some people by surprise.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Roost
- Spikes
- Toxic
- Whirlwind

I'd use Palkia instead of Rayquaza because now you have a way to control weather and Palkia has a better typing.

Palkia @ Choice Scarf Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Spacial Rend
- Surf
- Thunder
- Fire Blast

Palkia gives you a good revenge killer because it out speeds all of the common scarfers in ubers besides two (Terrakion and Garchomp). It can also function as an emergency Kyogre check if you need it to.

I think your Dialga set is good but I would run Thunder Wave instead of Aura Sphere because the only threat I can see Aura Sphere hitting harder is Arceus who can just set up on your Dialga anyway. Flamethrower hits Steel types anyway.

I think you should Keep Giratina-O and change its set a little bit because your team needs a physical attacker. It can still function as a spin blocker which would help your team if you use the changes i suggested because you have a lot of hazards. I've been running this set on mine for a while and it's worked better than I expected it to.

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake/Rock Slide

- Outrage
- Shadow Sneak
- Roar

This set gives you another phazer which is always useful. I use it as a defensive pivot/bulky attacker.

These suggestions are probably terrible and someone will probably come in here and tell me I'm a dumbass but hopefully they'll help.

BKC · Feb 6th, 2013, 9:21:55 AM

please read the rmt rules before posting; you need to describe what each pokemon does for your team in about 4 or so sentences. if you write some, send me a pm and i'll unlock this thread!

sorry to have to do this to a fellow pantera fan :|

Feb 3rd, 2013, 1:50:54 PM	#1
ThisLove Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1	Deoxys-A, Arceus Water, Rayquaza, Kyurem Black, Dialga, Giratina-O Hi everyone! I am brand new to competitive pokemon and it would be awesome if you guys could give me tips on my team. I have little idea of what I am doing, but my team attempts to cover all aspects. Thanks! EKiller (Arceus-Water) @ Splash Plate Trait: Multitype EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Refresh - Recover - Surf - Calm Mind Death (Deoxys-Attack) @ Focus Sash Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Mild Nature - Psycho Boost - Superpower - ExtremeSpeed - Thunderbolt HeAteZekrom (Kyurem-Black) @ Leftovers Trait: Teravolt EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Hasty Nature - Hone Claws - Freeze Shock - Fusion Bolt - Outrage Toodledoo (Rayquaza) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Air Lock Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd Hasty Nature - ExtremeSpeed - Outrage - V-create - Draco Meteor IronMan (Dialga) @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 56 SAtk / 200 SDef Modest Nature - Flamethrower - Aura Sphere - Dragon Pulse - Stealth Rock CantTouchThis (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb Trait: Levitate EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 140 SAtk / 12 Spd Modest Nature - Rest - Sleep Talk - Calm Mind - Dragon Pulse Rate/Hate/Steal please! Thanks again!

Feb 6th, 2013, 9:21:55 AM	#3
BKC Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,217 far away from the sun	please read the rmt rules before posting; you need to describe what each pokemon does for your team in about 4 or so sentences. if you write some, send me a pm and i'll unlock this thread! sorry to have to do this to a fellow pantera fan :\| __________________ RYM

Feb 3rd, 2013, 9:49:54 PM	#2
IAmAnHero Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 58	This thread is going to get locked because you didn't give any explanation about your guys which is required. I'll try and help you before that happens though. I've noticed there are quite a few things wrong with your team. You don't have an Extremekiller Arceus check, you have no phazers, no dragon resists, and Scarf Palkia murders 4 of the people on your team. First of all I'd change Arceus Water to Kyogre. He brings rain support which really helps your team. It'd allow you to run a Ferrothorn who resists dragon attacks and is also a pretty decent check to Scarf Palkia who is problematic for your team. Since you had a Calm Mind Arceus I don't think Calm Mind Kyogre would be very different. Kyogre @ Leftovers Trait: Drizzle EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Rest - Scald - Sleep Talk I think this set would benefit your team because it gives you a bulky boosting attacker that can also act as a sleep absorber because Darkrai is reasonably common. I'd replace Deoxys A with Ferrothorn because I don't think he brings much to your team. Ferrothorn can check many of the dragon types in ubers. Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 208 SDef Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd) - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed - Spikes - Thunder Wave/Protect I'd replace Kyurem B with Skarmory because I was looking for a Pokemon that would give you a pretty solid answer to Extremekiller Arceus because I noticed you had a weakness to him. Skarmory can Toxic Arceus and then phaze him out. Skarmory also gives you another dragon resist which is always good. It also gives you a pretty reliable phazer and it can set up hazards. Skarmory is Taunt bait but since it's relatively uncommon it can catch some people by surprise. Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Roost - Spikes - Toxic - Whirlwind I'd use Palkia instead of Rayquaza because now you have a way to control weather and Palkia has a better typing. Palkia @ Choice Scarf Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Spacial Rend - Surf - Thunder - Fire Blast Palkia gives you a good revenge killer because it out speeds all of the common scarfers in ubers besides two (Terrakion and Garchomp). It can also function as an emergency Kyogre check if you need it to. I think your Dialga set is good but I would run Thunder Wave instead of Aura Sphere because the only threat I can see Aura Sphere hitting harder is Arceus who can just set up on your Dialga anyway. Flamethrower hits Steel types anyway. I think you should Keep Giratina-O and change its set a little bit because your team needs a physical attacker. It can still function as a spin blocker which would help your team if you use the changes i suggested because you have a lot of hazards. I've been running this set on mine for a while and it's worked better than I expected it to. Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb Trait: Levitate EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Earthquake/Rock Slide - Outrage - Shadow Sneak - Roar This set gives you another phazer which is always useful. I use it as a defensive pivot/bulky attacker. These suggestions are probably terrible and someone will probably come in here and tell me I'm a dumbass but hopefully they'll help.