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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 3:55:01 AM   #1
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What pokemon have been given the wrong typing by GF.
e.g GYRADOS:Water/Flying
Should be Water/dragon because it looks like a dragon, learns dragon moves and can't fly because it has no wings.
FLYGON:Dragon/Ground
Obviously a prime candidate for the first Dragon/Bug type.Its a DRAGONfly! Ground wtf

Gardevoir: psychic
should be psychic/grass you just have to read its name

Great ideas
Also dragon/fighting haxorus
and water/rock blastoise

water/electric eelectross
steel/fighting bisharp
steel/bug shelmet
rock/dragon druddigon
grass/water maractus
fighting/rock conkeldurr
fighting/steel gurdurr

grass/flying cottonee
ghost/dark banette
grass/poison cacnea
electric/normal minun/plusle
grass/flying grovyle
water/flying lugia
water/poison octillery or water/dark octillery

grass/fire sunflora
rock/grass sudowoodo
dark/water feraligator
poison/dragon arbok

thats all i can think of any one else have ideas?

Thanks for the advice.

I agree that thread is similar but it is discussing an idea for a new metagame which this thread is not.

Oops accidently forgot the most obvious typing change in the game.
Fire/Dragon Charizard

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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:07:41 AM   #2
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water/dragon gyarados would've been too strong for gen 1

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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:10:41 AM   #3
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I don't think Water/Dragon would have been too broken. Even with no weakness, you'd still be able to overwhelm Gyarados with something like Gengar or Snorlax.
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Where is Grass/Dragon Serperior? Ghost/Fighting Gengar?
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 5:41:18 AM   #5
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Water/steel crawdaunt. He looks as if he's coated in steel!
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 6:25:55 AM   #6
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Water/Dragon Lapras. Good riddance to the Stealth Rock weakness, or the vulnerability to Rock/Fighting moves. May see more usage with its awesome movepool. Besides, Lapras looks more Dragon-y than Icy.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 6:33:30 AM   #7
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Didn't we have this exact same thread less than two weeks ago?

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4477984

Sure, it's in another subforum, but I'd expect that at least somebody would take notice and move discussion over there.

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Improve your spelling, punctuation and grammar and little. You'll come across as a lot more sophisticated if only you put a tiny effort into writing properly.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 7:17:42 AM   #8
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Also, take note of the "Edit" button at the bottom right of your posts. If you have anything more to add to your last statement, and nobody have posted after you, edit your last post instead of making a new one. As you notice by scrolling through a topic, a post takes up a lot more space than the words in it. It's annoying to read several posts with very little content in a row, especially if they are by the same member.

Sorry if it seems like I'm bashing you, but I'd also like to see a reasoning for your suggestion for retypes. Don't just throw them out, write a sentence or two on why you want, for instance, Sunflora to be part Fire type. It makes the post a lot more interesting to read, and a proper discussion attracts more replies.

For instance (shamelessly copying from the thread I posted):



Luxray - Electric/Dark.

It's a carnivore. It's mostly black. It's repeatedly stated to be extremely vicious when fighting. It learns Crunch, Thief and Snarl, and can be bred for Night Slash. And it's an extremely cool 'mon. Being Dark wouldn't help it much competitively, but it would certainly help its reputation.

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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 7:57:32 AM   #9
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Aerodactyl should have been Rock / Dragon for me .... Keeps Ice weakness, but lose Rock, Electric & Water weaknesses

Yanmega or Flygon should have Dragon / Bug Pokemon ... And Tinted Lens for the win !

Serperior should obviously get Dragon type too.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 11:28:59 AM   #10
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rock/dragon druddigon

I made this a while ago, but I must say that Druddigon looks much better as a rock type...

Anyway, Porygon Line would make a lot more sense as Electric, Steel, or Psychic types.
Cofagrigus as Ghost/Ground or Ghost/Steel to be more coffinlike.
Pyschic/Dark on the Gothita line for a much more gothic feel.
Water/Steel Blastoise to compliment those massive cannons.
Bug/Dark on Accelgor and Ninjask to reflect the ninja themed designs.
Water/Rock Cloyster line, it's much more shell-like.
Poison/Fire Weezing, it is a bomb after all...
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Bug/Steel Shelmet does make some sense considering the same armor is what makes Escavalier a steel-type.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 12:50:22 PM   #12
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I think...
should be Rock/fire or psychic/fire, wichcever you guys think suits it best! :D
Lunatone should be either Dark/Psychic, or Dark/Rock, with the type that isn't Dark on Lunatone or Fire on Solrock the same.

This is quite simply because Solrock, is the sun, and the sun is a ball of fire. (Burning gases creating fire.) I always used to get confused in Colosseum and XD about Solrock.

Lunatone is the moon, which is visible at night, night is when darkness comes. Simple.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 3:18:38 PM   #13
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Glalie should be Dark type. I've been talking about this since before we ever knew about Froslass, so it's not just a counterparts thing.

The japanese name likely puns on: onigiri (riceballs, which it does resemble in colorscheme and vague shape) and more importantly Oni (you know...demons and junk) thus the horns.
Its disposition is mean
Its design is based around mean
The behavior of "leisurely eating" its still-alive-but-frozen foe is kinda jerkish

Adding a dark type on it wouldn't help it much but I think it'd fit well enough.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:02:45 PM   #14
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I don't know why, But I always thought Dratini/Dragonair should be dragon/water. Maybe it's because they remind me a bit of sea serepents.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:18:13 PM   #15
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There's a few new generation Pokčmon I was disappointed by.


Why wasn't this thing Psychic/Dark or Psychic/Ghost? Really seems like a waste.


This thing really should have been Bug/Dark to fit with the ninja theme


With all it's Special Electric moves, I don't see why this thing isn't Steel/Electric.


It specializes in healing things...why not Water/Psychic? Or even Water/Normal?
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I always figured that Groudon should be a Fire-type (or Fire/Ground) back when I played Ruby. It's much better as a Ground-type, but something that summons permanent sun should at least be able to use it to boost STAB moves.

Azumarill should be Water/Fighting. It has Huge Power, but it's a Water-type, which is usually something synonymous with bulky instead of powerful. There are occasions where something is solely Water-type and has offensive capabilities that generally work better than defensive play (Kyogre, Samurott, the useless-in-Ubers Manaphy) many common mono-Water monsters work better either walling or supporting. Most powerful offensive Water-types have a secondary typing (Keldeo, Cloyster, Palkia, Rotom-W) that helps them with their offensive capabilities. On top of that, Huge Power boosts regular Attack, which is something that's commonly associated with Fighting-types.
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i always thought it was a bug type. Dragons without wings never really made sense to me. @_@
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Old Dec 4th, 2012, 3:21:34 PM   #18
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What pokemon have been given the wrong typing by GF.
e.g GYRADOS:Water/Flying
Should be Water/dragon because it looks like a dragon, learns dragon moves and can't fly because it has no wings.
FLYGON:Dragon/Ground
Obviously a prime candidate for the first Dragon/Bug type.Its a DRAGONfly! Ground wtf

Gardevoir: psychic
should be psychic/grass you just have to read its name


Great ideas
Also dragon/fighting haxorus
and water/rock blastoise

water/electric eelectross
steel/fighting bisharp
steel/bug shelmet
rock/dragon druddigon
grass/water maractus
fighting/rock conkeldurr
fighting/steel gurdurr


grass/flying cottonee
ghost/dark banette
grass/poison cacnea

electric/normal minun/plusle
grass/flying grovyle
water/flying lugia
water/poison octillery or water/dark octillery

grass/fire sunflora
rock/grass sudowoodo
dark/water feraligator
poison/dragon arbok

thats all i can think of any one else have ideas?

Thanks for the advice.

I agree that thread is similar but it is discussing an idea for a new metagame which this thread is not.

Oops accidently forgot the most obvious typing change in the game.
Fire/Dragon Charizard
I bolded the ones that make the least sense to me. Why does Grovyle need a flying type? It doesn't fly. And the two cactus Pokemon you listed have different types. What is more Water-like about Maractus? What's poisonous about Cacnea?

Arbok is a snake. There is nothing Dragon-like about Arbok.
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I made this a while ago, but I must say that Druddigon looks much better as a rock type...

Anyway, Porygon Line would make a lot more sense as Electric, Steel, or Psychic types.
Cofagrigus as Ghost/Ground or Ghost/Steel to be more coffinlike.
Pyschic/Dark on the Gothita line for a much more gothic feel.
Water/Steel Blastoise to compliment those massive cannons.
Bug/Dark on Accelgor and Ninjask to reflect the ninja themed designs.
Water/Rock Cloyster line, it's much more shell-like.
Poison/Fire Weezing, it is a bomb after all...
I approve the dragon/rock Drud, and a few of the other things said.
But really, I just wanted to say how great it is that someone else things Weezing should be poison/fire(or at least have a +fire evo).
I've also always thought Tropius should lose those wings and be Grass/Fire, because if nothing else, there REALLY needs to be a grass/fire type already.
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I bolded the ones that make the least sense to me. Why does Grovyle need a flying type? It doesn't fly. And the two cactus Pokemon you listed have different types. What is more Water-like about Maractus? What's poisonous about Cacnea?

Arbok is a snake. There is nothing Dragon-like about Arbok.
Grovyle's description"This pokemon flies from branch to branch in trees"Maractus has the abilities water absorb and storm drain.Cacnea learns five poison type moves.Arbok is in the dragon egg group and learns dragon tail.it would probably be better as a Poison/Dark type the 10 dark moves it learns
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While sometimes it would be good to change the type for proper reasons, you were really "scraping the barrel" for those typings. Girafarig learns sap sipper, he shouldn't be grass! Neither should miltank! I could do a very, very long thing about abilities and egg groups (armaldo needs to be water btw) but I'm frankly not bothered. Shiftry flies from branch to branch as well. Turtwig learns a water type move. Another thing that was annoying though was how you would regularly change typing within one evolutionary line. Say gurdurr is fight/steel, and conkeldurr fight/rock. Fight/steel is more appealing to me than fight/rock (You got the bulk and the brawn, whereas conkeldurr would be all out attacking) but gurdurr misses out on the typing for the extra power! D: Also, Octillery intrigues me. Nothing about being an octopus screams poison or dark, and he has such amazing coverage that it can't be moves, and it isn't ability. Why did you pick those 2 types?
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While sometimes it would be good to change the type for proper reasons, you were really "scraping the barrel" for those typings. Girafarig learns sap sipper, he shouldn't be grass! Neither should miltank! I could do a very, very long thing about abilities and egg groups (armaldo needs to be water btw) but I'm frankly not bothered. Shiftry flies from branch to branch as well. Turtwig learns a water type move. Another thing that was annoying though was how you would regularly change typing within one evolutionary line. Say gurdurr is fight/steel, and conkeldurr fight/rock. Fight/steel is more appealing to me than fight/rock (You got the bulk and the brawn, whereas conkeldurr would be all out attacking) but gurdurr misses out on the typing for the extra power! D: Also, Octillery intrigues me. Nothing about being an octopus screams poison or dark, and he has such amazing coverage that it can't be moves, and it isn't ability. Why did you pick those 2 types?
Because of the ink it sprays at its foes. Poison is more relevant than dark as Octillery learns some poison moves that obviously relate to its ability to spray ink. Dark is less viable but Octillery is known to steal the nests of other octillery which would make sense if it was a dark type.
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Seriously, upon seeing Tepig for the first time I was strongly expecting that its evolutions would be Fire/Ground. It makes perfect sense flavour-wise given that it's a pig after all, and it's even fairly interesting competitively as well. I thought two Fire/Fighting starters would was quite sufficient, but oh no...
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Yanmega: Bug/Dragon (with dragon pulse, draco, etc)
Staraptor: Flying/Fighting
Braviary: Flying/Fighting
Pinsir: Bug/Dark (sucker punch, pursuit, night slash, etc)
Vespiquen: Bug/Dark with Levitate (sucker punch, taunt, memento, etc)
Meganium: Grass/Psychic (Psychic/shock, etc)


And one more that doesn't make much sense flavor wise but would be awesome competitively:
Arcanine: Fire/Normal (because of Extremespeed)
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Yanmega: Bug/Dragon (with dragon pulse, draco, etc)
Staraptor: Flying/Fighting
Braviary: Flying/Fighting
Pinsir: Bug/Dark (sucker punch, pursuit, night slash, etc)
Vespiquen: Bug/Dark with Levitate (sucker punch, taunt, memento, etc)
Meganium: Grass/Psychic (Psychic/shock, etc)


And one more that doesn't make much sense flavor wise but would be awesome competitively:
Arcanine: Fire/Normal (because of Extremespeed)
The best solution for Yanmega would be to give it a tertiary dragon typing making it a Bug/Flying/Dragon
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