The Dark Horse Project (NU Edition) - Page 2

ZandgaiaX · Feb 9th, 2013, 4:33:54 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Checkm@te
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Raichu/(Leafeon/Liepard(own set))
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1613 ± 48

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I should try to get my liepard set to be more popular, it works well to keep forcing those switches, if played well that is. Also, switched my Golurk for Drifblim to give that a try, I'm not really sure it is what I'm looking for though. Despite this, Raichu seems underwhelming in the end.

Also tried a Raichu-support set on a different account, it was suprisingly bad, then again it's bulk leaves much to be desired. But with that kind of movepool it was worth a shot.

I can imagine the OP can be annoyed by my frequent changing of this post and the pokémon I work with, too bad I'm such a theorymonner that I want to give everything a shot.

NaruMon136 · Feb 9th, 2013, 7:37:38 AM

Switching from Machoke to Dunsparce, was not doing well with Machoke

Pokemon Showdown! Username: DunsparceLegend
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dunsparce
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

Ewil · Feb 9th, 2013, 8:21:06 AM

Let's try this !

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Hol Horse
Hall of Fame Standing: - Silver
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Riolu
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

W: 19 L: 5 (DAMN HAX -.-)
Ranking: 1926 ± 98

How did you choose your Dark Horse Pokemon for this project?
I've recently see some discussion about Riolu and i think that this can be a good occasion to try the infamous Prankster set.

How did you go about building a team for your Dark Horse Pokemon? Which kinds of teammates did you consider?
Well...with a pokemon like Riolu that rely on hazards to functions, the first idea is a stall team...and i love stall team :3
So i need an SR setter, a Spike setter and pokemons that can covers all the types (playing with Riolu is like playing with 5 pokemons because Riolu is simply here to do his duty, not to cover types)
I also have to consider wich item is better for Riolu between Focus Sash and Eviolite, but actually i think that Eviolite with 252HP stat has less flaw then Focus Sash (that is basically screwed if SR are on the field since i don't run a spinner ;D)

Do you think it is more difficult or less difficult to ladder with a Dark Horse Pokemon? Why? The surprise factor is always welcome to me.
I love when the opponent goes crazy because he/she can't understand what's going on and what he can do to counter my strategy.
But against a good/pro player, every turn counts, so if you don't have the patience to play stall with pratically 5 mons waiting for the right moment to play Riolu, that's not a strategy for you. (Oh and most players rage quit because i play stall :P)

Ashley11 · Feb 9th, 2013, 8:33:57 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Super Circle
Hall of Fame Standing: None as of yet!
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Camerupt, masquerain, and Sandshrew
Current Ladder Standing: 1730

I changed raichu to sandshrew because raichu is doing absolutely terrible and i thought i might want a rapid spinner and a better answer to rock type attacks.

col49 · Feb 9th, 2013, 9:08:56 AM

Been needing an excuse to NU more :>
Pokemon Showdown! Username: post acid
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mawile and Frillish :)
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: ----

ScraftyIsTheBest · Feb 9th, 2013, 9:29:40 AM

Pokemon Showdown! username: Luxray FTW
Hall of Fame standing: None as of yet
Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Fraxure, Luxray, Articuno
Current Ladder standing on Pokemon Showdown!: None as of yet

celever · Feb 9th, 2013, 10:47:47 AM

I started using Machoke as well, for if you don't notice the edit in my first comment.

JirachiCelebiMew · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:31:57 PM

Ok, for all of you wondering why Gardevoir is prohibited from this challenge: It has been placed S-Rank by the people, but DTC is too lazy to edit (Unless he already did in my sleep).

WhiteDMist · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:33:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat JirachiCelebiMew

Please put all changes within your Registration Form. WhiteDMist will update based on those forms, not individual posts randomly scattered throughout the topic.

NaruMon, put that in your original post.

Leafshield · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:54:23 PM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: MrLeafshield
Hall of Fame Standing: No standing as of yet
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Parasect, Dewgong, Flareon
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: N/A

panamaxis · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:56:29 PM

User: spacial drift
Hall of Fame Standing: Bronze i guess?
Dark Horse pkmn: DODRIO / STUNFISK / RAMPARDOS / DUOSION / VILEPLUME / GOTHORITA
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

Couldn't be bothered screenshotting so i c/ped it
46 Snover 1854 83.6 1925 ± 50
47 spacial drift 1852 85.6 1971 ± 87
48 Jakiro 1851 86.3 1988 ± 97
49 Sakurai 1850 84.6 1947 ± 69
50 Champion Master 1849 84.9 1954 ± 74

sets:

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celever · Feb 9th, 2013, 12:57:53 PM

jcm, do I have to start another alt? I was using gardy on my team as it was not in the ban list in the OP and is not S rank. If I replace him (it is set to always be male :P ) then can I keep my current rating? :(

**Raseri** · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:04:24 PM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: raseriDH
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Butterfree, Lairon, Combusken, Lickitung
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

CatTurtle · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:12:10 PM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: CatTurtle42
Hall of Fame Standing: None Yet
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Swoobat
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

JirachiCelebiMew · Feb 9th, 2013, 1:21:45 PM

Sorry, Celever, you have to restart. ;__;

ZandgaiaX · Feb 9th, 2013, 2:32:51 PM

so I made some changes in my first post there, I think the team is complete, though I'm still working on it, slowely but surely. If anybody has suggestions feel free too (^)

Also I'd like to suggest that Riolu is moved to the list of pokémon not allowed to be used in this project, with proper support (i.e. hazards) it's very easy to rack up wins with it's easy terror-shuffling.

WhiteDMist · Feb 9th, 2013, 2:40:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ZandgaiaX

so I made some changes in my first post there, I think the team is complete, though I'm still working on it, slowely but surely. If anybody has suggestions feel free too (^)

Also I'd like to suggest that Riolu is moved to the list of pokémon not allowed to be used in this project, with proper support (i.e. hazards) it's very easy to rack up wins with it's easy terror-shuffling.

You wold be better off requesting that in the NU Viability Rankings thread, not here. The ban-list is already set. Besides, Riolu isn't that hard to stop if you know what you are doing (priority, protect, Prankster, hazard control, etc). Anything can become threatening with proper team support, so that argument doesn't really help.

Jacobzilla · Feb 9th, 2013, 3:58:56 PM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Darth Meganium
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Meganium, Octillery
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:
User: darthmeganium
Format ACRE GXE Glicko2 W L T
nu 1353 49 1493 ± 99 (provisional) 6 9 0

Meganium is a great cleric and wall for me so far..... octillery is just to slow to be useful outside of a trick room team... might think about making one of those.

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Sweet Jesus · Feb 9th, 2013, 8:38:09 PM

Ok, I'll do it and I'll honor my most gimmicky player nomination with my very boss pokes.

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Jesus Columbus
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Togetic, Golduck
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

(I might add some more since my team is not finished, watch for a possible update)

Punchshroom · Feb 9th, 2013, 11:22:40 PM

Yeah sorry guys. My new alt keeps getting itself kicked out and refuses to let me access it. I'm dropping out.

TheCanadianWifier · Feb 10th, 2013, 12:23:50 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Dark Pony
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dragonair, Glaceon
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

Played some randbat to register, that's ok right?

Glaceon:

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Dragonair:

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Shovel · Feb 10th, 2013, 12:51:27 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Canadia™
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dragonair, Linoone.
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Battling.

celever · Feb 10th, 2013, 4:52:55 AM

I'n using mantine now. I updated my first post yesterday but no one noticed, so I thought I'd give you a quick heads up since it's an easy thing to miss.

To make this post worthwhile, I'll talk about how the pokemon so far are doing and how I have been using them, since I think it should be compulsory.

Linoone is definitely the best out of the three I am using (linoone, machoke and mantine) since if weezing mementos a pokemon then linoone can sweep very easily. The main thing linoone has problems with is golem - it easily survives even a fully boosted extremespeed and sucker punches linoone killing it when I try to seed bomb. As such, I try and lead with weezing to burn the golem leads therefore making them a redundancy. Sometimes I just go "what the hell" and have weezing use memento as well to get linoone set up safely really early, since later on in the battle weezing may die and linoone becomes fairly bad.

Machoke is extremely under-rated - especially the set that I am using. It is ResTalk BU set with dynamic punch and no guard (he is holding eviolite) and it can out-stall fierce attackers, hitting them back with massive force. Dynamic punch has disappointingly low PP, but the confusion is very nice. It does make it so that I only tend to bring machoke in when the opponent has 3 or so pokemon left, but sometimes that is needed to get rid of the guy's gardevoir and exeggutor anyway.

Mantine is nice. I have used him only in a few battles, but so far he has been a great switch-in on those choice gardevoir locked into psychic and is a flawless counter to roselia. Mine is another ResTalk set, with surf and air slash as the 2 other attacks, and from what I have seen so far it is great on mantine and I think mantine very under-rated.

ZandgaiaX · Feb 10th, 2013, 11:21:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat celever

I'n using mantine now. I updated my first post yesterday but no one noticed.

To make this post worthwhile, I'll talk about how the pokemon so far are doing and how I have been using them, since I think it should be compulsory.

Linoone is definitely the best out of the three I am using (linoone, machoke and mantine) since if weezing mementos a pokemon then linoone can sweep very easily. The main thing linoone has problems with is golem - it easily survives even a fully boosted extremespeed and sucker punches linoone killing it when I try to seed bomb. As such, I try and lead with weezing to burn the golem leads therefore making them a redundancy. Sometimes I just go "what the hell" and have weezing use memento as well to get linoone set up safely really early, since later on in the battle weezing may die and linoone becomes fairly bad.

Machoke is extremely under-rated - especially the set that I am using. It is ResTalk BU set with dynamic punch and no guard (he is holding eviolite) and it can out-stall fierce attackers, hitting them back with massive force. Dynamic punch has disappointingly low PP, but the confusion is very nice. It does make it so that I only tend to bring machoke in when the opponent has 3 or so pokemon left, but sometimes that is needed to get rid of the guy's gardevoir and exeggutor anyway.

Mantine is nice. I have used him only in a few battles, but so far he has been a great switch-in on those choice gardevoir locked into psychic and is a flawless counter to roselia. Mine is another ResTalk set, with surf and air slash as the 2 other attacks, and from what I have seen so far it is great on mantine and I think mantine very under-rated.

Weezing + Linoone is indeed a good combo, but there is indeed the problem that weezing faints somewhat unexpectably fast sometimes. On the other hand, have you tried Scarf Mr. Mime? With healing wish you can basically suicide it into giving your weezing a second chance at life, combined with Psychic, Thunderbolt and Trick it could work in theory. I don't know your whole team though.

Also, do you have a wishpasser on your team? If so you could try a Substitute Set with Machoke: combining D-punch with Payback, substitute and either bulk-up or Toxic.

God I'm such a theorymonner.

Updated my post again, I'm very happy with Raichu as a revenger/scout and Liepard as a force-switcher, Vileplume has made place for Leafeon and Kecleon for Lickylicky: Kecleon did ok, but it still was too frail for my liking, I think kecleon could work, but it requires a really high skill level of the player to pull him off. I am also working on some of my own sets right now, I like theorymoning so that's a'right. Also, drifblim with sub spamm and D-bond is a b!tch.

Also if anyone is interested who is part of this project, shoot me a PM on Showdown if you see my name on Showdown and see if we can arrange a match between two of these teams.

Edited three times now!: Other pokémon I'm interested in trying are Muk(Instead of Lickylicky) and Grumpig (Instead of Golurk) I'll see what'll happen though.

WhiteDMist · Feb 10th, 2013, 11:46:27 AM

Before this occurs, let's make this clear: it's fine if you change your Dark Horses, but at least ONE of your Dark Horses MUST REMAIN THE SAME or else you will have to restart the challenge with a NEW alt. Also, you should indicate in your application what Pokemon were changed, since otherwise they all look the same to me.

Edit: Thanks JCM! And yes, I don't memorize everyone's Dark Horses instantly, so if you don't indicate that it's been changed in your application, then I'll assume that nothings different.

Feb 9th, 2013, 4:33:54 AM	#26
ZandgaiaX Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Gender Unknown	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Checkm@te Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Raichu/(Leafeon/Liepard(own set)) Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1613 ± 48 ... Raichu @ Expert Belt Trait: Static EVs: 6 HP/252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed Timid Nature - Thunderbolt - Focus Blast - Hidden Power Ice - Nasty Plot Drifblim @ Flying Gem Trait: Unburden EVs: 252 Atk/56 Def/200 Spe Adamant Nature -Acrobatics -Destiny Bond -Will-o-Wisp -Memento Seismitoad @ Lefties Trait: Water Absorb EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 SpD Calm Nature - Surf - Earth Power - Toxic - Stealth Rock LickyLicky @ Lefties Trait: Own Tempo EVs: 252 HP/112 Def/144 SpD Careful Nature - Dragon Tail - Heal Bell - Protect - Wish Leafeon @ Lefties Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/128 Def/4 Spe Impish Nature - Leaf Blade - X-scissor - Wish - Protect Liepard @ Choice Specs Trait: Prankster EVs: 80 HP/8 Def/252 Sp. Def/168 Spe Timed Nature - Dark Pulse - Encore - Yawn - Trick I should try to get my liepard set to be more popular, it works well to keep forcing those switches, if played well that is. Also, switched my Golurk for Drifblim to give that a try, I'm not really sure it is what I'm looking for though. Despite this, Raichu seems underwhelming in the end. Also tried a Raichu-support set on a different account, it was suprisingly bad, then again it's bulk leaves much to be desired. But with that kind of movepool it was worth a shot. I can imagine the OP can be annoyed by my frequent changing of this post and the pokémon I work with, too bad I'm such a theorymonner that I want to give everything a shot. __________________ (16:40:14) @HAL9000: Your rank in DPP NU is 1/9. Last edited by ZandgaiaX; Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:34:46 AM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 7:37:38 AM	#27
NaruMon136 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1	Switching from Machoke to Dunsparce, was not doing well with Machoke Pokemon Showdown! Username: DunsparceLegend Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dunsparce Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Last edited by NaruMon136; Feb 9th, 2013 at 1:52:15 PM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 8:21:06 AM	#28
Ewil Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 429 Italy	Let's try this ! Pokemon Showdown! Username: Hol Horse Hall of Fame Standing: - Silver Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Riolu Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: W: 19 L: 5 (DAMN HAX -.-) Ranking: 1926 ± 98 How did you choose your Dark Horse Pokemon for this project? I've recently see some discussion about Riolu and i think that this can be a good occasion to try the infamous Prankster set. How did you go about building a team for your Dark Horse Pokemon? Which kinds of teammates did you consider? Well...with a pokemon like Riolu that rely on hazards to functions, the first idea is a stall team...and i love stall team :3 So i need an SR setter, a Spike setter and pokemons that can covers all the types (playing with Riolu is like playing with 5 pokemons because Riolu is simply here to do his duty, not to cover types) I also have to consider wich item is better for Riolu between Focus Sash and Eviolite, but actually i think that Eviolite with 252HP stat has less flaw then Focus Sash (that is basically screwed if SR are on the field since i don't run a spinner ;D) Do you think it is more difficult or less difficult to ladder with a Dark Horse Pokemon? Why? The surprise factor is always welcome to me. I love when the opponent goes crazy because he/she can't understand what's going on and what he can do to counter my strategy. But against a good/pro player, every turn counts, so if you don't have the patience to play stall with pratically 5 mons waiting for the right moment to play Riolu, that's not a strategy for you. (Oh and most players rage quit because i play stall :P) __________________ My Italian Page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/EwilsReview Manga and Comics Review (edited in Italy) IF ANYONE COLLECTS STAMPS AND WANT TO EXCHANGE WITH ME, JUST CONTACT ME VIA PM (I principally have italian stamps, but i have even foreign ones too) Last edited by Ewil; Mar 3rd, 2013 at 6:30:16 PM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 8:33:57 AM	#29
Ashley11 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 149	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Super Circle Hall of Fame Standing: None as of yet! Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Camerupt, masquerain, and Sandshrew Current Ladder Standing: 1730 I changed raichu to sandshrew because raichu is doing absolutely terrible and i thought i might want a rapid spinner and a better answer to rock type attacks. __________________ My dog is named after me. <(-_-<) (>-_-)> Last edited by Ashley11; Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:50:29 PM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 9:08:56 AM	#30
col49 the Jack Black Pokemon Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 763 planet fickle	Been needing an excuse to NU more :> Pokemon Showdown! Username: post acid Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mawile and Frillish :) Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: ---- __________________ Tehy: like i get the feeling you're pro or something Tehy: but Tehy: on this ladder Tehy: it's so fucking hard to tell Last edited by col49; Feb 9th, 2013 at 9:15:40 AM. Reason: turns out I have two =)

Feb 9th, 2013, 9:29:40 AM	#31
ScraftyIsTheBest Floatin' Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 555 Lake Verity	Pokemon Showdown! username: Luxray FTW Hall of Fame standing: None as of yet Dark Horse Pokemon currently working with: Fraxure, Luxray, Articuno Current Ladder standing on Pokemon Showdown!: None as of yet __________________ <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang C&C Work VM or PM me for a UU / RU rate!

Feb 9th, 2013, 10:47:47 AM	#32
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,091 On holiday right now	I started using Machoke as well, for if you don't notice the edit in my first comment.

Feb 9th, 2013, 12:31:57 PM	#33
JirachiCelebiMew Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 257 The Great Big Sea (Montreal)	Ok, for all of you wondering why Gardevoir is prohibited from this challenge: It has been placed S-Rank by the people, but DTC is too lazy to edit (Unless he already did in my sleep). __________________ Shedinja sez: ''Enigma Berry sucks.''

Feb 9th, 2013, 12:54:23 PM	#35
Leafshield Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 115 Toledo, OH	Pokemon Showdown! Username: MrLeafshield Hall of Fame Standing: No standing as of yet Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Parasect, Dewgong, Flareon Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: N/A Last edited by Leafshield; Feb 10th, 2013 at 7:12:25 PM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 12:56:29 PM	#36
panamaxis Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,695	User: spacial drift Hall of Fame Standing: Bronze i guess? Dark Horse pkmn: DODRIO / STUNFISK / RAMPARDOS / DUOSION / VILEPLUME / GOTHORITA Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Couldn't be bothered screenshotting so i c/ped it 46 Snover 1854 83.6 1925 ± 50 47 spacial drift 1852 85.6 1971 ± 87 48 Jakiro 1851 86.3 1988 ± 97 49 Sakurai 1850 84.6 1947 ± 69 50 Champion Master 1849 84.9 1954 ± 74 sets: ... Splash (Stunfisk) @ Leftovers Trait: Static Shiny: Yes EVs: 64 SDef / 252 HP / 192 Def Bold Nature - Stealth Rock - Discharge - Earth Power - Protect Rampardos @ Life Orb Trait: Sheer Force EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk Naughty Nature - Rock Slide - Crunch - Earthquake - Fire Blast Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SDef Bold Nature - Sleep Powder - Leech Seed - Sludge Bomb - Synthesis Duosion @ Eviolite Trait: Magic Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature - Psychic - Thunder Wave - Recover - Hidden Power [Ground] Gothorita @ Choice Specs Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 96 Spd / 252 SAtk / 160 HP Modest Nature - Psychic - Trick - Thunderbolt - Signal Beam Dodrio @ Choice Band Trait: Early Bird EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def Jolly Nature - Brave Bird - Return - Quick Attack - Pursuit __________________ <am> shes p. hot not gonna lie <am> kinda reminds me of my mum fsr ------------------------------------- <am> if its for money its not gay

Feb 9th, 2013, 12:57:53 PM	#37
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,091 On holiday right now	jcm, do I have to start another alt? I was using gardy on my team as it was not in the ban list in the OP and is not S rank. If I replace him (it is set to always be male :P ) then can I keep my current rating? :(

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:04:24 PM	#38
Raseri I'm a leaf on the wind; watch how i soar Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,722 Mentor	Pokemon Showdown! Username: raseriDH Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Butterfree, Lairon, Combusken, Lickitung Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Last edited by Raseri; Feb 9th, 2013 at 1:27:22 PM.

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:12:10 PM	#39
CatTurtle Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 15	Pokemon Showdown! Username: CatTurtle42 Hall of Fame Standing: None Yet Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Swoobat Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!:

Feb 9th, 2013, 1:21:45 PM	#40
JirachiCelebiMew Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 257 The Great Big Sea (Montreal)	Sorry, Celever, you have to restart. ;__; __________________ Shedinja sez: ''Enigma Berry sucks.'' Last edited by Zebraiken; Feb 9th, 2013 at 1:35:03 PM. Reason: a mistake in the op =/= someone else's fault for enforcing rules

Feb 9th, 2013, 2:32:51 PM	#41
ZandgaiaX Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Gender Unknown	so I made some changes in my first post there, I think the team is complete, though I'm still working on it, slowely but surely. If anybody has suggestions feel free too (^) Also I'd like to suggest that Riolu is moved to the list of pokémon not allowed to be used in this project, with proper support (i.e. hazards) it's very easy to rack up wins with it's easy terror-shuffling. __________________ (16:40:14) @HAL9000: Your rank in DPP NU is 1/9.

Feb 9th, 2013, 3:58:56 PM	#43
Jacobzilla Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 57 Michigan	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Darth Meganium Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Meganium, Octillery Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: User: darthmeganium Format ACRE GXE Glicko2 W L T nu 1353 49 1493 ± 99 (provisional) 6 9 0 Meganium is a great cleric and wall for me so far..... octillery is just to slow to be useful outside of a trick room team... might think about making one of those. ... Meganium@Leftovers Ability: Overgrow Calm Nature 252 Hp/4 SpA/252 SpD -Leech Seed -Toxic -Giga Drain -Aromatherapy ... Octillery@Choice Specs Ability: Sniper Modest Nature 4 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spe -Water Spout -Surf -Energy Ball -Ice Beam Last edited by Jacobzilla; Feb 10th, 2013 at 12:05:49 PM. Reason: Dark Horse Sets

Feb 9th, 2013, 8:38:09 PM	#44
Sweet Jesus Neal and Jack and me, absent lovers... Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 406 Montreal	Ok, I'll do it and I'll honor my most gimmicky player nomination with my very boss pokes. Pokemon Showdown! Username: Jesus Columbus Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Togetic, Golduck Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: (I might add some more since my team is not finished, watch for a possible update) __________________

Feb 9th, 2013, 11:22:40 PM	#45
Punchshroom Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 459	Yeah sorry guys. My new alt keeps getting itself kicked out and refuses to let me access it. I'm dropping out. __________________ Warstories: Risk or Reward? Riolu be Shufflin' Serving them HOT!! Playtime's Over! Double Commentary for Double Battle?! Double Feature! Deluged Dimensions! Hazards Matter! Shorts: Beating Whitney at her own game! Challenge Cup Status Shenanigans Punchshroom: disagreement leads to resistance, which leads to conflict, which leads to battle, which leads to WARSTORIIEEESSSS!!!

Feb 10th, 2013, 12:23:50 AM	#46
TheCanadianWifier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 39 Near Toronto, Canada	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Dark Pony Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dragonair, Glaceon Current Ladder Standing: 1000 Played some randbat to register, that's ok right? Glaceon: ... My Love ♥ (Glaceon) (F) @ Leftovers Trait: Ice Body EVs: 196 HP / 104 Def / 80 SAtk / 104 SDef / 24 Spd Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Ice Beam - Substitute - Wish - Work Up Dragonair: ... Dragonitrogen (Dragonair) @ Eviolite Trait: Marvel Scale EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SDef Careful Nature - Dragon Dance - Rest - Sleep Talk - Outrage __________________ NU is where I excel (SubBU Brav = GG), however I'm pretty competitive in OU/UU as well. RU is just a mystery to me, I'm horrible at it.. Hackmons is fun too :] I'm TheCanadianWifier on Youtube and Showdown, and TCWER just about everywhere else.

Feb 10th, 2013, 12:51:27 AM	#47
Shovel Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 119 Life	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Canadia™ Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Dragonair, Linoone. Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: Battling. __________________ .::Tai' shar Manetheren!::. Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin Last edited by Shovel; Feb 10th, 2013 at 12:53:38 AM. Reason: Battling.

Feb 10th, 2013, 4:52:55 AM	#48
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,091 On holiday right now	I'n using mantine now. I updated my first post yesterday but no one noticed, so I thought I'd give you a quick heads up since it's an easy thing to miss. To make this post worthwhile, I'll talk about how the pokemon so far are doing and how I have been using them, since I think it should be compulsory. Linoone is definitely the best out of the three I am using (linoone, machoke and mantine) since if weezing mementos a pokemon then linoone can sweep very easily. The main thing linoone has problems with is golem - it easily survives even a fully boosted extremespeed and sucker punches linoone killing it when I try to seed bomb. As such, I try and lead with weezing to burn the golem leads therefore making them a redundancy. Sometimes I just go "what the hell" and have weezing use memento as well to get linoone set up safely really early, since later on in the battle weezing may die and linoone becomes fairly bad. Machoke is extremely under-rated - especially the set that I am using. It is ResTalk BU set with dynamic punch and no guard (he is holding eviolite) and it can out-stall fierce attackers, hitting them back with massive force. Dynamic punch has disappointingly low PP, but the confusion is very nice. It does make it so that I only tend to bring machoke in when the opponent has 3 or so pokemon left, but sometimes that is needed to get rid of the guy's gardevoir and exeggutor anyway. Mantine is nice. I have used him only in a few battles, but so far he has been a great switch-in on those choice gardevoir locked into psychic and is a flawless counter to roselia. Mine is another ResTalk set, with surf and air slash as the 2 other attacks, and from what I have seen so far it is great on mantine and I think mantine very under-rated. Last edited by celever; Feb 10th, 2013 at 12:26:36 PM.

Feb 10th, 2013, 11:46:27 AM	#50
WhiteDMist If happy ever after did exist Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 523 I'm at a payphone!	Before this occurs, let's make this clear: it's fine if you change your Dark Horses, but at least ONE of your Dark Horses MUST REMAIN THE SAME or else you will have to restart the challenge with a NEW alt. Also, you should indicate in your application what Pokemon were changed, since otherwise they all look the same to me. Edit: Thanks JCM! And yes, I don't memorize everyone's Dark Horses instantly, so if you don't indicate that it's been changed in your application, then I'll assume that nothings different. __________________ Message me for NU RMT rates! PU: Pokemon Database The PU Viability Rankings PU- NU in NU PU Research Week Project PU Last edited by WhiteDMist; Feb 10th, 2013 at 12:44:57 PM.