The vegetarian snack pokemon! Tropius discussion!

celever · Feb 10th, 2013, 4:15:00 AM

Tropius is often thought to be the bottom of the bottom of NU. This is incredibly saddening, as it couldn't be further from the truth! Tropius is a very versatile pokemon, with many different tactics having the possibility to be great! Yes, maybe in order to use tropius effectively you need to be more experienced and to use your brain more... but then I bid you the question; isn't that what compeitive battling all about?

Tropius is the meaning of a sun abuser - he is made for it. He has 3 amazing abilities - solar power, chlorophyll and harvest - which when used turn into 3 completely different sets! Now, Tropius is almost always forgotten about. Chlorophyll is seemingly out-classed by Jumpluff, Sawsbuck and, if you want a more stally set, vileplume, and then you have harvest exeggutor seemingly out-classing harvest tropius, and even solar power is out-classed by Charizard! Well guess what? This couldn't be farther from the truth! Here is a thread for you guys to discuss tropius facts, sets and other things to do with tropius! (and don't forget to do the poll!)

To start off, I will post a set I have been using on my run stall team, taken from my rmt "I'm stalling on sunshine!"

Tropius @ Sitrus berry
Ability: Harvest
- Toxic
- Protect
- Air slash
- Sunny day
252HP, 220 Special attack, 36 special defense
Nature: Modest

JirachiCelebiMew · Feb 10th, 2013, 1:24:59 PM

Tropius, for me, is outclassed by Exeguttor in a stalling role because Eggy doesn't have a SR weakness and a 4x weakness to a common type (Ice). It's also outclassed by Charizard in the Solar Power role (Hell, I'd prefer Sunflora). It's outclassed by Sawsbuck, Shiftry and also Victreebel in the Chlorophyll role. It's basically a poor man's staller / sweeper, etc.

Qwilphish · Feb 20th, 2013, 11:37:31 AM

Although it may seem that Tropius' roles in sun are outclassed by exeggutor, you can't forget Tropius' flying type can be a blessing especially with a sub seeding set, as now you can hit those dang grass types for a super effective Air Slash!

michael209 · Feb 20th, 2013, 12:55:12 PM

Starf Berry Tropius is so much fun to use. Max HP/Sdef and you're good to go.

On a more serious note, the sub-seed Sitrus set is quite good but in most ways outclassed by Eggs. It has that nasty ice 4x weak as well as SR but it has a more reliable recovery move in Roost.

A side note - In OU, if you B-pass it aqua ring + ingrain with Harvest + Leppa Berry
then give it sub + protect + leech + roar.. Nothing stops you except Mamoswine/Cloyster with Ice spear and Taunters :)

Infernis · Feb 21st, 2013, 2:44:17 PM

You know, I have a battle log of a Tropius team in Ubers doing that exact thing, minus Roar plus Synthesis.

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Not the most exciting battle, but I had a good laugh.

kniteowl · Feb 21st, 2013, 8:21:54 PM

I was thinking maybe a dragon dance set with Harvest Lum Berry but It sadly just isn't strong or fast enough for that role. Although Harvest+Lum+ rest is a nice combo. Doesn't have good coverage either with Leaf blade, Seed bomb, Earthquake, Return, Aerial Ace and Outrage. Outrage works because it gets infinite lum berries with Harvest getting cured from confusion.

View Poll Results: Which do you think is Tropius's best ability?
Solar power	0	0%
Chlorophyll	4	8.33%
Harvest	44	91.67%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

Feb 10th, 2013, 4:15:00 AM	#1
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,062 I HATE COD	The vegetarian snack pokemon! Tropius discussion! Tropius is often thought to be the bottom of the bottom of NU. This is incredibly saddening, as it couldn't be further from the truth! Tropius is a very versatile pokemon, with many different tactics having the possibility to be great! Yes, maybe in order to use tropius effectively you need to be more experienced and to use your brain more... but then I bid you the question; isn't that what compeitive battling all about? Tropius is the meaning of a sun abuser - he is made for it. He has 3 amazing abilities - solar power, chlorophyll and harvest - which when used turn into 3 completely different sets! Now, Tropius is almost always forgotten about. Chlorophyll is seemingly out-classed by Jumpluff, Sawsbuck and, if you want a more stally set, vileplume, and then you have harvest exeggutor seemingly out-classing harvest tropius, and even solar power is out-classed by Charizard! Well guess what? This couldn't be farther from the truth! Here is a thread for you guys to discuss tropius facts, sets and other things to do with tropius! (and don't forget to do the poll!) To start off, I will post a set I have been using on my run stall team, taken from my rmt "I'm stalling on sunshine!" Tropius @ Sitrus berry Ability: Harvest - Toxic - Protect - Air slash - Sunny day 252HP, 220 Special attack, 36 special defense Nature: Modest __________________ "Oh no, we're not lost it's just that we don't know where we are" - Brock 19:59 Darknesscrusher Just watch fucking porn man 19:59 Darknesscrusher Lesbo is better anyway Last edited by celever; Feb 10th, 2013 at 5:48:38 AM.

Feb 10th, 2013, 1:24:59 PM	#2
JirachiCelebiMew Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 245 The Great Big Sea (Montreal)	Tropius, for me, is outclassed by Exeguttor in a stalling role because Eggy doesn't have a SR weakness and a 4x weakness to a common type (Ice). It's also outclassed by Charizard in the Solar Power role (Hell, I'd prefer Sunflora). It's outclassed by Sawsbuck, Shiftry and also Victreebel in the Chlorophyll role. It's basically a poor man's staller / sweeper, etc. __________________ Shedinja sez: ''Enigma Berry sucks.''

Feb 21st, 2013, 2:44:17 PM	#5
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 476	You know, I have a battle log of a Tropius team in Ubers doing that exact thing, minus Roar plus Synthesis. ... Battle between Citrus Surprise and Bender started! Tier: Wifi Ubers Mode: Singles Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Variation: +12, -20 Your team: Sawk / Gorebyss / Smeargle / Relicanth / Groudon / Tropius Opponent's team: Jirachi / Rayquaza / Dialga / Palkia / Salamence / Mewtwo Citrus Surprise sent out Groudon! Bender sent out Jirachi! Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays! Start of turn 1 The foe's Jirachi used Draco Meteor! Groudon lost 122 HP! (31% of its health) The foe's Jirachi's Sp. Att. sharply fell! Groudon used Thunder Wave! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The sunlight is strong. Groudon restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 2 Citrus Surprise called Groudon back! Citrus Surprise sent out Francois! (Smeargle) The foe's Jirachi used Thunder! Francois lost 75 HP! (29% of its health) Francois is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The sunlight is strong. Start of turn 3 Francois is paralyzed! It can't move! The foe's Jirachi used Drain Punch! It's super effective! Francois lost 177 HP! (70% of its health) Francois fainted! Francois had its energy drained! The sunlight is strong. Citrus Surprise: agh Citrus Surprise sent out Gorebyss! Bender: lol Start of turn 4 Gorebyss used Aqua Ring! Gorebyss surrounded itself with a veil of water! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. Start of turn 5 Gorebyss used Agility! Gorebyss's Speed sharply rose! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. Start of turn 6 Gorebyss used Baton Pass! Citrus Surprise called Gorebyss back! Citrus Surprise sent out Tropius! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. Bender: not fair Citrus Surprise: eh, happened to me with a paralyze from thunder. Start of turn 7 Tropius used Leech Seed! The foe's Jirachi was seeded! The foe's Jirachi used Thunder! The attack of the foe's Jirachi missed! The sunlight is strong. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Citrus Surprise: Which hit during sunlight. Citrus Surprise: So our luck is pretty similar. Start of turn 8 Bender called Jirachi back! Bender sent out Salamence! The foe's Salamence intimidates Tropius! Tropius's Attack fell! Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Bender: yea Start of turn 9 Tropius used Leech Seed! The foe's Salamence was seeded! The foe's Salamence used Dragon Claw! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 10 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 11 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! It's super effective! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Bender: omg Start of turn 12 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 13 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! It's super effective! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 14 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 15 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Salamence used Flamethrower! It's super effective! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Salamence's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 16 Bender called Salamence back! Bender sent out Jirachi! Tropius used Protect! But it failed! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Start of turn 17 Tropius used Leech Seed! The foe's Jirachi was seeded! The foe's Jirachi used Thunder! A critical hit! Tropius lost 174 HP! (51% of its health) The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 18 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Jirachi used Drain Punch! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 19 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 20 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Jirachi used Drain Punch! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Bender: thats annoying Start of turn 21 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius already has a substitute. The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 22 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Jirachi is paralyzed! It can't move! The sunlight is strong. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 23 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius already has a substitute. The foe's Jirachi used Shadow Ball! Tropius's substitute took the damage! The sunlight is strong. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 24 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Jirachi used Drain Punch! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. The foe's Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed. The foe's Jirachi fainted! Bender sent out Dialga! The foe's Dialga is exerting its Pressure! Start of turn 25 Tropius used Protect! But it failed! The foe's Dialga used Roar of Time! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Start of turn 26 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Dialga must recharge! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Start of turn 27 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Dialga used Draco Meteor! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Start of turn 28 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius already has a substitute. The foe's Dialga used Fire Blast! It's super effective! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Start of turn 29 Tropius used Protect! Tropius protected itself! The foe's Dialga used Draco Meteor! Tropius protected itself! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Start of turn 30 Tropius used Substitute! Tropius made a substitute! The foe's Dialga used Iron Head! Tropius's substitute faded! The sunlight is strong. Aqua ring restored Tropius's HP. Bender forfeited against Citrus Surprise! The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window. Not the most exciting battle, but I had a good laugh.

Feb 20th, 2013, 11:37:31 AM	#3
Qwilphish Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 124 -1 Attack	Although it may seem that Tropius' roles in sun are outclassed by exeggutor, you can't forget Tropius' flying type can be a blessing especially with a sub seeding set, as now you can hit those dang grass types for a super effective Air Slash!

Feb 20th, 2013, 12:55:12 PM	#4
michael209 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 97	Starf Berry Tropius is so much fun to use. Max HP/Sdef and you're good to go. On a more serious note, the sub-seed Sitrus set is quite good but in most ways outclassed by Eggs. It has that nasty ice 4x weak as well as SR but it has a more reliable recovery move in Roost. A side note - In OU, if you B-pass it aqua ring + ingrain with Harvest + Leppa Berry then give it sub + protect + leech + roar.. Nothing stops you except Mamoswine/Cloyster with Ice spear and Taunters :)

Feb 21st, 2013, 8:21:54 PM	#6
kniteowl Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 322	I was thinking maybe a dragon dance set with Harvest Lum Berry but It sadly just isn't strong or fast enough for that role. Although Harvest+Lum+ rest is a nice combo. Doesn't have good coverage either with Leaf blade, Seed bomb, Earthquake, Return, Aerial Ace and Outrage. Outrage works because it gets infinite lum berries with Harvest getting cured from confusion.