CAP 5 - Part 2 - Typing Poll 1

***Birkal**** · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:29:32 AM

Hiya! We'll be voting on the typing of CAP5 in the following series of polls. The result of these threads will have a significant influence on how the rest of the process operates, so choose wisely.

Typing Polls are run with IRV voting, the details of which are outlined here. This means that you can upvote your favorite typing and downvote your least favorite. Be aware that order does matter in your votes! The first line is your favorite, the last line is your least favorite. Make sure you vote properly. Make sure that you bold your votes and nothing else! A typical vote might look like the following:

Quote:

Most Preferred
Second Most Preferred
Third Most Preferred

Any comments that the voter has would go below the votes in non-bold text. Bold text is used to determine what the user's votes are, so none of the supplementary text should be in bold.

Please post only your votes in this thread. Do not respond to other posts, or your posts will be moderated and you may be warned. You are allowed to say whatever you like in relation to your vote at the bottom of your post, but please do not look to begin a discussion. Keep those comments to #cap on IRC.

This poll will be open for 24 hours.

When voting, use only the typing! The list of possible votes include:

Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Dark
Grass/Dragon
Grass/Fighting

Make sure there are no spaces in between your slashes for dual types.

Below is CAP 5 so far:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Base Speed

Name: Type Equalizer

Description: A pokemon whose presence in the metagame increases the usage of one or more underused types and simultaneously decreases the usage of one or more overused types.

Justification: Take a look at the OU usage statistics for January and you'll see that 9 out of the top 10 pokemon have either steel, water, dragon or fighting as one of their types, and extending it to the top 20 shows 16/20 with those types. We should also be asking ourselves why these trends exist so strongly and what can be done about them. In creating this CAP, we'd have to discuss in depth many different aspects of what makes a type and opinions can ultimately being tested in the playtest.

Questions To Be Answered:

Is a types usefulness relative to the metagame or is it intrinsic? (Ie. Can any type be the "best" type given the right circumstances or do type match-ups, available STAB moves etc mean some types will always be better than others?)
What exploitable weaknesses do "good" types in OU have? Are their currently pokemon that can exploit them and if so, how do they function differently to CAP5?
How (if at all) will the targeted types adapt to the situation created? Will people choose different movesets, abilities, etc or will they just use them more/less? How is this linked to the way CAP5 functions strategically?
What effects will the changes on certain types' presence have on the metagame?
Which members of the targeted types will benefit and suffer from this most and why?
By creating CAP5, have we learnt any new ways to counter good types or use bad types?

Quanyails · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:30:45 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass

Nyktos · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:31:23 AM

Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Dragon

Yilx · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:32:35 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass

Base Speed · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:33:12 AM

Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

I think I'll cry if this ends up being a dragon...

**jas61292** · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:34:07 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

I really like the potential for both Electric and Dark types here. Both together would be great, though either of the other typings with one of the two would still be fantastic.

***Birkal**** · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:36:32 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass

I fear what lies ahead if we lack a Water-type resistance.

iamdanielcruces · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:36:49 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass

Todd · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:37:00 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon
Electric/Grass

WebsterVanCooney · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:38:09 AM

Grass/Fighting
Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Dragon

reachzero · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:38:12 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

That silly wombat Deck Knight, how dare he make it Grass/Dark instead of Dark/Grass.

Fanal · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:38:57 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Fighting

Juicy · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:39:01 AM

Electric/Grass
Electric/Dark

***DougJustDoug***** · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:40:01 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

ganj4lF · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:48:57 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Electric/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

I'm fine with all the first three typings, not-so-much with the fourth, but it's still workable, and absolutely don't want the fifth, it just looks worse than everything else by a fairly large margin.

andalite191 · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:51:35 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass

Since I'm not really much of an expert at the actual playing aspect, my stance is that these three would be much better design-wise than the other typing choices. I've really wanted to design an Elec/Dark 'mon for a while, and now I have a chance to do it!

srk1214 · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:51:54 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark

alexwolf · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:52:12 AM

Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass

Lol at the people who think that Grass/Dark can make for an effective pivot, and lol at the people who think Sun teams will be able to stack on Grass-types with lots of same weaknesses.

Weebos · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:52:28 AM

Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass
Grass/Dark

erisia · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:55:49 AM

Electric/Dark
Grass/Dark
Grass/Dragon

DarkSlay · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:57:48 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark

Redjar · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:58:25 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass
Electric/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Grass/Dragon

Himanattsu · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:58:26 AM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Dark

psykokitty · Feb 19th, 2013, 12:00:09 PM

Grass/Dark
Grass/Fighting
Electric/Dark
Electric/Grass

Spork · Feb 19th, 2013, 12:04:19 PM

Grass/Dark
Electric/Grass

eek

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:30:45 AM	#2
Quanyails Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 354	Grass/Dark Electric/Dark Electric/Grass __________________ .

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:31:23 AM	#3
Nyktos Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 314 Looking For You	Grass/Fighting Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Dragon Last edited by Nyktos; Feb 19th, 2013 at 11:46:00 AM.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:32:35 AM	#4
Yilx Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Singapore	Electric/Dark Grass/Fighting Grass/Dark Electric/Grass __________________ \| Art Thread \| Crux \| With Inpunity \| Fishing for Fun \| Saying 'hi' \| Fire Off \|

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:33:12 AM	#5
Base Speed Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 77	Electric/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Dark Grass/Fighting Grass/Dragon I think I'll cry if this ends up being a dragon... __________________ Zoom Zoom

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:34:07 AM	#6
jas61292 likes his numbers Moderator Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,243 Strong as a Corsola	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Fighting Grass/Dragon I really like the potential for both Electric and Dark types here. Both together would be great, though either of the other typings with one of the two would still be fantastic. __________________ <jas61292> I record everything <nyttyn> prove it. <nyttyn> WHAT WAS THE VERY FIRST THING I EVER SAID IN THIS CHANNEL. <jas61292> [06/02/12 \| 12:43] <NyttyN> Huh what deo you know shelll smash did get banned <nyttyn> what. <nyttyn> well congratulations jas your stalker nexus has reached an all time high.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:36:32 AM	#7
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,005 The Mentor	Grass/Dark Electric/Grass I fear what lies ahead if we lack a Water-type resistance. __________________

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:36:49 AM	#8
iamdanielcruces Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 76 Havana, Cuba	Grass/Dark Electric/Dark Electric/Grass __________________ Σα βγεις στον πηγαιμό για την Ιθάκη, να εύχεσαι νάναι μακρύς ο δρόμος... Last edited by iamdanielcruces; Feb 19th, 2013 at 1:09:55 PM.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:37:00 AM	#9
Todd Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 70 on the open road	Grass/Dark Electric/Dark Grass/Fighting Grass/Dragon Electric/Grass

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:38:09 AM	#10
WebsterVanCooney Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 32 South Carolina	Grass/Fighting Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Dragon __________________ "I am a poor hater." -James A. Garfield I go by WebsterVC on Showdown, so feel free to challenge me to a UU match.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:38:57 AM	#12
Fanal Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 93 Out there. Wherever that might be.	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Fighting

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:39:01 AM	#13
Juicy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 122 Staffordshire	Electric/Grass Electric/Dark

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:40:01 AM	#14
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,901 Houston, TX	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Fighting Grass/Dragon __________________ My Art Thread: ArtJustArt - The Art of DougJustDoug

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:48:57 AM	#15
ganj4lF Nobody is safe from the power of science! Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 688 Italy	Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Electric/Dark Grass/Fighting Grass/Dragon I'm fine with all the first three typings, not-so-much with the fourth, but it's still workable, and absolutely don't want the fifth, it just looks worse than everything else by a fairly large margin. __________________ Counter that Pokemon project: Mk III (over) & Warstory \| Mk IV (running) RMTs: The HOutsiders (also the other ones if anyone likes lurking my old posts) Take a look at this before starting an argument Not accepting rating requests anymore. Sorry!

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:51:35 AM	#16
andalite191 Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 47	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Electric/Grass Since I'm not really much of an expert at the actual playing aspect, my stance is that these three would be much better design-wise than the other typing choices. I've really wanted to design an Elec/Dark 'mon for a while, and now I have a chance to do it!

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:51:54 AM	#17
srk1214 Supreme Master of Trivia Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 807	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark __________________ Best. Match. Ever. http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11554542 To see the other best match ever, go to DetroitLolcat's signature.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:52:12 AM	#18
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,627 Greece	Electric/Dark Electric/Grass Lol at the people who think that Grass/Dark can make for an effective pivot, and lol at the people who think Sun teams will be able to stack on Grass-types with lots of same weaknesses. __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check! Last edited by alexwolf; Feb 19th, 2013 at 2:14:20 PM.

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:52:28 AM	#19
Weebos Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 127 Ankh-Morpork	Electric/Dark Electric/Grass Grass/Dark

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:55:49 AM	#20
erisia (macho) brace yourselves Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 854	Electric/Dark Grass/Dark Grass/Dragon __________________ Check out Slowmons: A new metagame where the slowest Pokémon moves first!

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:57:48 AM	#21
DarkSlay Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,187 Location: CAP, C&C, or RMT!	Grass/Dark Electric/Dark __________________ [23:49:15] <orcinus> potato potato [23:49:16] <orcinus> that really [23:49:23] <orcinus> doesn't have the same effect as when you say it out loud

Feb 19th, 2013, 11:58:26 AM	#23
Himanattsu Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 216 East Coast	Grass/Dark Electric/Dark __________________ @Soarin: There's no hax in pokemon. @Soarin: Crits are supposed to happen. @Soarin: Flinches are supposed to happen. @Soarin: Paralysis is supposed to happen. @Soarin: Deal with it.

Feb 19th, 2013, 12:00:09 PM	#24
psykokitty Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 121	Grass/Dark Grass/Fighting Electric/Dark Electric/Grass __________________ You've got to lose to know how to win.

Feb 19th, 2013, 12:04:19 PM	#25
Spork Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 349 on the road	Grass/Dark Electric/Grass eek __________________ as if God himself spat like a cornered rat