Seasonal Ladder - March (Spring Forward)

**Joim** · Feb 25th, 2013, 9:16:17 AM

After the Valentine Venture success, March is having a new Seasonal Ladder which is going to feature the beginning of the Spring season, Easter, and St. Patrick's day (rather month).

I'd like people to point out anything that sounds weird or that could be improved, but this is going to be the ladder:
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We are going to welcome the upcoming spring with a 3 VS 3 with no Team Preview random battle featuring some Flower, Egg, and Green Pokemon!

We all know that March and April showers bring May flowers, so Drizzle will be activated upon battle start 75% of the times! Rain always ruining the spring!
You'll find Egg, Flower, Bunny, and Green Pokemon.
Shiny Pokemon that are green have decided to put on their special clothes to celebrate St. Patrick, so they are found too!
That's not all! St. Patricks spirit has been imbued all over this Seasonal, so luck is will be very important - all Pokemon will have either Super Luck or Serene Grace as their ability.
To celebrate Easter, Pokemon have been gathering delicious chocolate eggs that have empowered them. All Pokemon will have one of the following moves: Softboiled, Barrage, or Egg Bomb!
Yes, yes, we all know these two attacking moves suck. That's why these egg-related moves have been super boosted:
- Softboiled is now healing 75% of the user's Max HP.
- Barrage is now a Special Grass-type now that hits from 3 to 5 times, every move having 35bp, has a high crit chance and heals user 1/40 of their Max HP per hit and it never fails!
- Egg Bomb is now a Special Grass-type move with 100bp, it always crits, heals user 1/8 of their Max Hp, and never fails! But not everything is cool, it lowers Speed by two stages and Special Attack by one stage upon use. Furthermore, Spring Forward is plagued by foes resisting Grass-type moves.
All moves have had their crit ratio increased, so they all have a base high crit ratio now!
All Pokemon will know Metronome too as their first move!
Pokemon that usually use Choice items will find themselves using the Metronome item.
All green Pokemon have been partying too much celebrating St. Patricks, so they will be confused upon switch in for a very short duration!

List of egg related Pokemon

List of flower related Pokemon

List of bunny-like Pokemon

List of green Pokemon

List of shiny green Pokemon

List of Super Lucky Pokemon

List of Serene Graced Pokemon

Steamroll · Feb 25th, 2013, 9:17:57 AM

If you want to get into the spirit of Irish luck, also implement the mechanics used in haxmons. That'll make it for an interesting month :)

Gerard · Feb 25th, 2013, 9:34:45 AM

No Gardevoir. Shame. SHAAAME!!!

Constantinipple · Feb 25th, 2013, 9:50:43 AM

okay so there will be Machamps spitting eggs over the place... cool i guess, lol

**Joim** · Feb 25th, 2013, 10:16:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Gerard

No Gardevoir. Shame. SHAAAME!!!

Forgot it, added now!

WasSollDas · Feb 25th, 2013, 11:31:54 AM

This looks really cool :D but I'm scared of all the super luck / serene grace haxes xD

EDIT: Gardevoir, but not Gallade?! :(((
EDIT2: Ralts and Kirlia are also green...dunno if that would be nitpicking :P

Master of the Six Kings · Feb 25th, 2013, 11:53:34 AM

Sunflora and Liligant aren't flower mon? D:

Kirbyofthestars · Feb 25th, 2013, 12:53:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat WasSollDas

This looks really cool :D but I'm scared of all the super luck / serene grace haxes xD

EDIT: Gardevoir, but not Gallade?! :(((

It would be a mighty shame to forget Gallade! D:

How does this Seasonal Ladder work, though? Do you need to design a team yourself, or does it automatically give you a team upon starting a battle?

**Joim** · Feb 25th, 2013, 1:40:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Steamroll

If you want to get into the spirit of Irish luck, also implement the mechanics used in haxmons. That'll make it for an interesting month :)

That might be too much luck necessary :P Plus flinch on haxmon is really deadly...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Master of the Six Kings

Sunflora and Liligant aren't flower mon? D:

Added both!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kirbyofthestars

It would be a mighty shame to forget Gallade! D:

How does this Seasonal Ladder work, though? Do you need to design a team yourself, or does it automatically give you a team upon starting a battle?

Added Gallade too!

The team is random as usual :)

Layell · Feb 25th, 2013, 2:27:34 PM

Whenever sunny day is activated after the rain there will be a rainbow present with active leprechaun bonuses???

That would be hilarious, I loved the Valentines ladder and I've been quite content with 30th on it. I love the risks being taken with messing around with mechanics and with how focused they often are. Can't wait to play!

**Arcticblast** · Feb 25th, 2013, 3:13:38 PM

A lot of the flower Pokemon not listed are in the "green" list, guys...

Also, I came up with the name. Get at me.

EDIT: For clarification, EVERY Pokemon will have an egg move and a luck ability?

Treecko · Feb 25th, 2013, 11:16:15 PM

Vullaby (and consequently, Mandibuzz?) for egg based Pokemon!
Otherwise, looks fun. :)

**Joim** · Feb 26th, 2013, 3:28:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Layell

Whenever sunny day is activated after the rain there will be a rainbow present with active leprechaun bonuses???

That would be hilarious, I loved the Valentines ladder and I've been quite content with 30th on it. I love the risks being taken with messing around with mechanics and with how focused they often are. Can't wait to play!

Hey, that'd be a cool idea. Let me see what I can do with Sunny Day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Arcticblast

A lot of the flower Pokemon not listed are in the "green" list, guys...

Also, I came up with the name. Get at me.

EDIT: For clarification, EVERY Pokemon will have an egg move and a luck ability?

Yeah, every Pokemon has Metronome, egg move, and a luck ability. The other two moves are chosen by the random battle set maker.

Also most Pokemon were chosen by Hugendugen, go blame him if you don't find one :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Treecko37

Vullaby (and consequently, Mandibuzz?) for egg based Pokemon!
Otherwise, looks fun. :)

I added Vullaby since it's definitely an egg Pokemon :D

Snowflakes · Feb 26th, 2013, 4:19:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Gerard

No Gardevoir. Shame. SHAAAME!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BbRffBCeYw

Treecko · Mar 3rd, 2013, 3:22:07 AM

Started playing this today. So much fun. The only thing that has bothered me so far has been Serene Grace Breloom@Toxic Orb. Needless to say it's not exactly the same effect I would be going for with a Poison Heal loom.

Highlights so far have been Metronoming into Shell Smash and Hi Jump Kick with my Oddish, Serene Grace Sludge Bomb Vileplume sweeping from the get go, and seeing "Pelliper drank way too much! Pelliper is confused!"

Great job Joim. :]

Edit: Scratch that. Metronome into Sacred Fire with Serene Grace!!

Lagalag4 · Mar 3rd, 2013, 4:05:01 AM

This seasonal is so much fun ^_^

Every one of these games have included game-changing hax, extremely useless pokes, extremely good pokes and lolz everytime a drunk pokemon smacks itself in the face :^D

Mari · Mar 3rd, 2013, 1:09:21 PM

Jirachi is much to overpowered. I could not upload the replay because of the message "Error while uploading replay: hash mismatch", but here is a battle log:

Battle Log

and ... lulz:

Suprise, Suprise

Layell · Mar 3rd, 2013, 6:21:20 PM

Man in a game where everyone has metronome having sub is so good because you will never have to suffer repeated super effective hits. I also had a Mence with metronome/softboiled/roost/fireblast and in the rain it wasn't my day.

Kirbyofthestars · Mar 3rd, 2013, 6:58:23 PM

It seems as if any Pokemon with Softboiled is nearly impossible to kill, since it's simple to regain full health. The confusion doesn't make it any easier.

EDIT: For example, if you get a Softboiled Murkrow against a team of grass-types, it's pretty much a guarenteed victory: just use Brave Bird until you need to use Softboiled.
With such widespread Confusion, it seems as if a victory or defeat is based mostly on luck (no pun intended); even more so than normal Random Battles.

**Joim** · Mar 4th, 2013, 1:59:55 AM

Luck is a main feature of this seasonal (St. Patrick's, irish luck).
Mari, I've solved that bug, it's gone with the server restart!
Regarding Softboiled, it's so powerful because STAB Egg Bomb and Barrage are very powerful as well, you just need to put pressure on Pokémon with Softboiled :) Anyways that's the reason for it to be 3v3, in my tests we saw that battles got long.

Feb 25th, 2013, 9:16:17 AM	#1
Joim It's only over when you give up Moderator Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 733 Joim is pronounced like joy-m, stress on "Jo". It's /ˈdʒɔɪm/. Mentor	Seasonal Ladder - March (Spring Forward) After the Valentine Venture success, March is having a new Seasonal Ladder which is going to feature the beginning of the Spring season, Easter, and St. Patrick's day (rather month). I'd like people to point out anything that sounds weird or that could be improved, but this is going to be the ladder: --- We are going to welcome the upcoming spring with a 3 VS 3 with no Team Preview random battle featuring some Flower, Egg, and Green Pokemon! We all know that March and April showers bring May flowers, so Drizzle will be activated upon battle start 75% of the times! Rain always ruining the spring! You'll find Egg, Flower, Bunny, and Green Pokemon. Shiny Pokemon that are green have decided to put on their special clothes to celebrate St. Patrick, so they are found too! That's not all! St. Patricks spirit has been imbued all over this Seasonal, so luck is will be very important - all Pokemon will have either Super Luck or Serene Grace as their ability. To celebrate Easter, Pokemon have been gathering delicious chocolate eggs that have empowered them. All Pokemon will have one of the following moves: Softboiled, Barrage, or Egg Bomb! Yes, yes, we all know these two attacking moves suck. That's why these egg-related moves have been super boosted: Softboiled is now healing 75% of the user's Max HP. Barrage is now a Special Grass-type now that hits from 3 to 5 times, every move having 35bp, has a high crit chance and heals user 1/40 of their Max HP per hit and it never fails! Egg Bomb is now a Special Grass-type move with 100bp, it always crits, heals user 1/8 of their Max Hp, and never fails! But not everything is cool, it lowers Speed by two stages and Special Attack by one stage upon use. Furthermore, Spring Forward is plagued by foes resisting Grass-type moves. All moves have had their crit ratio increased, so they all have a base high crit ratio now! All Pokemon will know Metronome too as their first move! Pokemon that usually use Choice items will find themselves using the Metronome item. All green Pokemon have been partying too much celebrating St. Patricks, so they will be confused upon switch in for a very short duration! List of egg related Pokemon Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, Happiny, Chansey, Blissey, Exeggcute, Exeggutor List of flower related Pokemon Cherrim, Gloom, Vileplume, Bellossom, Lileep, Venusaur, Sunflora, Lilligant List of bunny-like Pokemon Lopunny, Bunneary, Azumarill List of green Pokemon Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur, Caterpie, Metapod, Bellsprout, Weepinbell, Victreebel, Scyther, Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium, Spinarak, Natu, Xatu, Bellossom, Politoed, Skiploom, Lavitar, Tyranitar, Celebi, Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile, Dustox, Lotad, Lombre, Ludicolo, Breloom, Electrike, Roselia, Gulpin, Vibrava, Flygon, Cacnea, Cacturne, Cradily, Gardevoir, Gallade, Keckleon, Tropius, Rayquaza, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Budew, Roserade, Carnivine, Yanmega, Leafeon, Shaymin, Shaymin-S, Snivy, Servine, Serperior, Pansage, Simisage, Swadloon, Cottonee, Whimsicott, Petilil, Lilligant, Basculin, Maractus, Trubbish, Garbodor, Solosis, Duosion, Reuniclus, Axew, Fraxure, Golett, Golurk, Virizion, Tornadus-I, Tornadus-T, Burmy, Wormadam (Plant Cloak) List of shiny green Pokemon Kakuna, Beedrill, Sandshrew, Nidoqueen, Zubat, Golbat, Oddish, Gloom, Mankey, Poliwrath, Machoke, Machamp, Doduo, Dodrio, Grimer, Muk, Kingler, Cubone, Marowak, Hitmonlee, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Tauros, Kabuto, Dragonite, Mewtwo, Marill, Hoppip, Espeon, Teddiursa, Ursaring, Cascoon, Taillow, Swellow, Pelipper, Masquerain, Azurill, Minun, Carvanha, Huntail, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Latios, Tangrowth, Seismitoad, Jellicent (male), Elektross, Druddigon, Bronzor, Bronzong List of Super Lucky Pokemon Murkrow, Honchkrow, Absol, Pidove , Tranquill, Unfezant List of Serene Graced Pokemon Dunsparce, Jirachi, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Meloetta __________________ Intelligence speaks, wisdom listens. Contributions: \| \| \| \| \| Spanish Translation \| May Seasonal \| PS contributions Smog articles: NFEs in NU \| NU Spotlight: Drifblim \| Seasonal Fun \| Blue Best Rival Projects: Joim's Lab: OMs in action \| Speed Calc \| Old Gens in PS Gameplay: Play Smogon Doubles! \| Joimmons [15:24] <%Joim> I have so many fans! [15:24] <@TheImmortal> do they keep you cool [12:00] <@mikel\|away> i love a good twistie penis gif Last edited by Joim; Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:42:48 PM.

Feb 25th, 2013, 9:17:57 AM	#2
Steamroll Look, Chalmers, let's understand each other... Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,807 I don't like you. Mentor	If you want to get into the spirit of Irish luck, also implement the mechanics used in haxmons. That'll make it for an interesting month :) __________________ *Pokemon Showdown!* \| *#pokemon!* \| *Gen VI!* *emoticons!* \| *roller coaster!* \| *Henry!* \| *Rave!* \| *Beelzebub!* \| *E3!*

Feb 25th, 2013, 11:31:54 AM	#6
WasSollDas Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 30 Oberursel, Germany	This looks really cool :D but I'm scared of all the super luck / serene grace haxes xD EDIT: Gardevoir, but not Gallade?! :((( EDIT2: Ralts and Kirlia are also green...dunno if that would be nitpicking :P __________________ Randomguy: OMG, Sylveon is gonna be light type :3 Me: You do realize new types were only implemented in gen2 to balance psychic types. Randomguy: Bu..but...light type would be so cool :D Me: FUCK YOU, it's not gonna happen. Last edited by WasSollDas; Feb 25th, 2013 at 3:00:39 PM. Reason: Gallade ;_;

Feb 25th, 2013, 2:27:34 PM	#10
Layell Alas poor Dent! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,871 I knew him, Batman, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.	Whenever sunny day is activated after the rain there will be a rainbow present with active leprechaun bonuses??? That would be hilarious, I loved the Valentines ladder and I've been quite content with 30th on it. I love the risks being taken with messing around with mechanics and with how focused they often are. Can't wait to play! __________________ #Orangeislands movie nights: The best way to watch the Pokemon films and specials! * Goodnight Sweet Prince PS/Smogon April Fools 2013: file, credits, and server mode

Feb 25th, 2013, 3:13:38 PM	#11
Arcticblast ~ Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,007 #serperiors Mentor	A lot of the flower Pokemon not listed are in the "green" list, guys... Also, I came up with the name. Get at me. EDIT: For clarification, EVERY Pokemon will have an egg move and a luck ability? __________________ New to Smogon? Afraid to jump into discussion? Introduce yourself! ------------------- Fail Cup \| Scramble! \| RMTs: Night Stall (OU) \| ARcTicblast \| Demon Spawn \| signature art by Zracknel additional credit to Pocket and AccidentalGreed

Feb 25th, 2013, 9:34:45 AM	#3
Gerard Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,222 Mmm... Ice Cream!	No Gardevoir. Shame. SHAAAME!!!

Feb 25th, 2013, 9:50:43 AM	#4
Constantinipple Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 113 SO I HERD YOU LIKE MUDKIPZ	okay so there will be Machamps spitting eggs over the place... cool i guess, lol

Feb 25th, 2013, 11:53:34 AM	#7
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	Sunflora and Liligant aren't flower mon? D:

Feb 25th, 2013, 11:16:15 PM	#12
Treecko hitting the Ballmer Peak Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 622 between 0.129% and 0.138%	Vullaby (and consequently, Mandibuzz?) for egg based Pokemon! Otherwise, looks fun. :) __________________ C&C work: \| \| \| \| \|

Mar 3rd, 2013, 3:22:07 AM	#15
Treecko hitting the Ballmer Peak Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 622 between 0.129% and 0.138%	Started playing this today. So much fun. The only thing that has bothered me so far has been Serene Grace Breloom@Toxic Orb. Needless to say it's not exactly the same effect I would be going for with a Poison Heal loom. Highlights so far have been Metronoming into Shell Smash and Hi Jump Kick with my Oddish, Serene Grace Sludge Bomb Vileplume sweeping from the get go, and seeing "Pelliper drank way too much! Pelliper is confused!" Great job Joim. :] Edit: Scratch that. Metronome into Sacred Fire with Serene Grace!! __________________ C&C work: \| \| \| \| \|

Mar 3rd, 2013, 4:05:01 AM	#16
Lagalag4 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 96 Captain Cruel!!	This seasonal is so much fun ^_^ Every one of these games have included game-changing hax, extremely useless pokes, extremely good pokes and lolz everytime a drunk pokemon smacks itself in the face :^D

Mar 3rd, 2013, 1:09:21 PM	#17
Mari Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 172 Aachen, Germany	Jirachi is much to overpowered. I could not upload the replay because of the message "Error while uploading replay: hash mismatch", but here is a battle log: Battle Log Mari joined. Yachary joined. Format: [Seasonal] Spring Forward Rated battle Sleep Clause: Limit one foe put to sleep March and April showers bring May flowers... It started to rain! Battle between Mari and Yachary started! Go! Jirachi! Yachary sent out Sandshrew! Sandshrew drank way too much! The foe's Sandshrew became confused! Turn 1 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Sandshrew lost 31% of its health! The foe's Sandshrew was frozen solid! The foe's Sandshrew thawed out! The foe's Sandshrew is confused! The foe's Sandshrew used Metronome! Waggling a finger let it use Trump Card! It's not very effective... Jirachi lost 4% of its health! The foe's Sandshrew lost some of its HP! Jirachi restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 2 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Sandshrew lost 29% of its health! The foe's Sandshrew is confused! The foe's Sandshrew lost 15% of its health! Turn 3 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Sandshrew lost 15% of its health! The foe's Sandshrew fainted! Yachary sent out Maractus! Maractus drank way too much! The foe's Maractus became confused! Turn 4 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Maractus lost 35% of its health! The foe's Maractus was frozen solid! The foe's Maractus is frozen solid! The foe's Maractus restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 5 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Maractus lost 35% of its health! The foe's Maractus is frozen solid! The foe's Maractus restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 6 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Maractus lost 35% of its health! The foe's Maractus is frozen solid! The foe's Maractus restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 7 Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Maractus lost 13% of its health! The foe's Maractus fainted! Yachary sent out Swellow! Swellow drank way too much! The foe's Swellow became confused! Turn 8 The foe's Swellow is confused! The foe's Swellow lost 15% of its health! Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Swellow lost 42% of its health! The foe's Swellow was frozen solid! Turn 9 The foe's Swellow is frozen solid! Jirachi used Ice Punch! It's super effective! The foe's Swellow lost 44% of its health! The foe's Swellow fainted! Mari won the battle! Ladder updating... Mari's rating: 966 → 1085 (+119 for winning) Yachary's rating: 924 → 885 (-39 for losing) Mari: gg Yachary: gg Yachary left. and ... lulz: Suprise, Suprise __________________ Challenge Cup 1 vs 1 - Torchic vs Arceus-Normal /Challenge Cup - Trapinch / VGC 2013 - 3-Turn-Win Balanced Hackmons - Arceus Home Run / Challenge Cup 1 vs 1 - Epic: Magikarp vs. Zapdos OU - Feel the power of Sub Magnezone / Challenge Cup 1 vs 1 - How important accuracy really is ... 1 vs 1 - Epic Last edited by Mari; Mar 3rd, 2013 at 1:23:33 PM.

Mar 3rd, 2013, 6:21:20 PM	#18
Layell Alas poor Dent! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,871 I knew him, Batman, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.	Man in a game where everyone has metronome having sub is so good because you will never have to suffer repeated super effective hits. I also had a Mence with metronome/softboiled/roost/fireblast and in the rain it wasn't my day. __________________ #Orangeislands movie nights: The best way to watch the Pokemon films and specials! * Goodnight Sweet Prince PS/Smogon April Fools 2013: file, credits, and server mode

Mar 3rd, 2013, 6:58:23 PM	#19
Kirbyofthestars Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 103	It seems as if any Pokemon with Softboiled is nearly impossible to kill, since it's simple to regain full health. The confusion doesn't make it any easier. EDIT: For example, if you get a Softboiled Murkrow against a team of grass-types, it's pretty much a guarenteed victory: just use Brave Bird until you need to use Softboiled. With such widespread Confusion, it seems as if a victory or defeat is based mostly on luck (no pun intended); even more so than normal Random Battles. __________________ Art Thread; (hopefully) improving! Last edited by Kirbyofthestars; Mar 3rd, 2013 at 7:19:54 PM.

Mar 4th, 2013, 1:59:55 AM	#20
Joim It's only over when you give up Moderator Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 733 Joim is pronounced like joy-m, stress on "Jo". It's /ˈdʒɔɪm/. Mentor	Luck is a main feature of this seasonal (St. Patrick's, irish luck). Mari, I've solved that bug, it's gone with the server restart! Regarding Softboiled, it's so powerful because STAB Egg Bomb and Barrage are very powerful as well, you just need to put pressure on Pokémon with Softboiled :) Anyways that's the reason for it to be 3v3, in my tests we saw that battles got long. __________________ Intelligence speaks, wisdom listens. Contributions: \| \| \| \| \| Spanish Translation \| May Seasonal \| PS contributions Smog articles: NFEs in NU \| NU Spotlight: Drifblim \| Seasonal Fun \| Blue Best Rival Projects: Joim's Lab: OMs in action \| Speed Calc \| Old Gens in PS Gameplay: Play Smogon Doubles! \| Joimmons [15:24] <%Joim> I have so many fans! [15:24] <@TheImmortal> do they keep you cool [12:00] <@mikel\|away> i love a good twistie penis gif