CAP 5 - Part 7 - Secondary Ability Poll 3

**Theorymon** · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:50:57 PM

Here it is, the final competitive ability poll for this CAP!

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My preferred entry

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This poll will be open for 24 hours.

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Ineffective Ability
Infiltrator

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Below is CAP 5 so far:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Base Speed

Name: Type Equalizer

Description: A pokemon whose presence in the metagame increases the usage of one or more underused types and simultaneously decreases the usage of one or more overused types.

Justification: Take a look at the OU usage statistics for January and you'll see that 9 out of the top 10 pokemon have either steel, water, dragon or fighting as one of their types, and extending it to the top 20 shows 16/20 with those types. We should also be asking ourselves why these trends exist so strongly and what can be done about them. In creating this CAP, we'd have to discuss in depth many different aspects of what makes a type and opinions can ultimately being tested in the playtest.

Questions To Be Answered:

Is a types usefulness relative to the metagame or is it intrinsic? (Ie. Can any type be the "best" type given the right circumstances or do type match-ups, available STAB moves etc mean some types will always be better than others?)
What exploitable weaknesses do "good" types in OU have? Are their currently pokemon that can exploit them and if so, how do they function differently to CAP5?
How (if at all) will the targeted types adapt to the situation created? Will people choose different movesets, abilities, etc or will they just use them more/less? How is this linked to the way CAP5 functions strategically?
What effects will the changes on certain types' presence have on the metagame?
Which members of the targeted types will benefit and suffer from this most and why?
By creating CAP5, have we learnt any new ways to counter good types or use bad types?

Typing: Grass / Dark
Threats: Link
Primary Ability: Harvest
Stats: 115 HP / 100 Atk / 60 Def / 40 SpA / 130 SpD / 55 Spe

Yilx · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:52:09 PM

Ineffective Ability

**Korski** · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:52:18 PM

Ineffective Ability

I think Infiltrator's a fine choice, though. I'm glad it came down to these two options.

Yomegami · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:54:41 PM

Infiltrator

Eagle4 · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:13 PM

Ineffective Ability

Blackhawk11 · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:27 PM

Infiltrator

To be honest, Infiltrator has such a small, niche effect I think it's comparable to IA. The only reason to vote for IA would be to then limit CAP5 to Harvest as its only ability.

**The Immortal** · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:40 PM

Ineffective Ability

Todd · Mar 16th, 2013, 1:56:30 PM

Ineffective Ability

**paintseagull** · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:00:15 PM

Infiltrator

Legend13 · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:00:24 PM

Infiltrator

uwnim · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:01:13 PM

Infiltrator

srk1214 · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:01:18 PM

Infiltrator

Which already is an IA more or less...

**Deck Knight** · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:04:54 PM

Infiltrator

We need to get inside.

Master of the Six Kings · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:05:16 PM

Infiltrator

psykokitty · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:12:53 PM

Infiltrator

Vann Accessible · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:15:37 PM

Infiltrator

It has a very small niche for countering Dual Screens Lat@s/Espeon/Xatu. That is something, I suppose.
I was all for Leaf Guard but I'm just glad it wasn't Water Veil. It didn't even make sense. It's a grass type...

Dogfish44 · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:15:49 PM

Ineffective Ability

Fanal · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:16:01 PM

Infiltrator

Unoriginal Name · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:19:05 PM

Infiltrator

Yay, no Leaf Guard! I am now satisfied with the secondary ability.

alexwolf · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:19:49 PM

Infiltrator

**jas61292** · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:24:08 PM

Infiltrator

It's practically ineffective, but is 100% in line with our goals. Seems like the perfect choice to me.

Pwnemon · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:25:32 PM

Ineffective Ability

umbriel · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:29:05 PM

Ineffective Ability

WhiteDMist · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:29:40 PM

Ineffective Ability

Roserade Raider · Mar 16th, 2013, 2:34:48 PM

Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:52:09 PM	#2
Yilx Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Singapore	Ineffective Ability __________________ \| Art Thread \| Crux \| With Inpunity \| Fishing for Fun \| Saying 'hi' \| Fire Off \|

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:52:18 PM	#3
Korski Distilled, 80 proof Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,004 Minneapolis	Ineffective Ability I think Infiltrator's a fine choice, though. I'm glad it came down to these two options. __________________ "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not." - John Lennon

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:13 PM	#5
Eagle4 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 919 Avatar by the awesome Magistrum!	Ineffective Ability __________________ My favourite pokemon grid

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:27 PM	#6
Blackhawk11 one on one Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 651 Michigan	Infiltrator To be honest, Infiltrator has such a small, niche effect I think it's comparable to IA. The only reason to vote for IA would be to then limit CAP5 to Harvest as its only ability. __________________ ...Take it higher, take it higher, 'til the roof is on fire. Take it higher, take it higher, let's burn it up... 1040

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:55:40 PM	#7
The Immortal VOCARE AD REGNUM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 279 ...	Ineffective Ability __________________ *Pokemon Showdown* \| *Pokemon Showdown on IRC*

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:54:41 PM	#4
Yomegami Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 23 Nowhere.	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 1:56:30 PM	#8
Todd Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 70 on the open road	Ineffective Ability

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:00:15 PM	#9
paintseagull Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 461	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:00:24 PM	#10
Legend13 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 64 The Frozen Land Of Canada	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:01:13 PM	#11
uwnim Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 159 Florida	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:01:18 PM	#12
srk1214 Supreme Master of Trivia Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 807	Infiltrator Which already is an IA more or less... __________________ Best. Match. Ever. http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou11554542 To see the other best match ever, go to DetroitLolcat's signature.

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:04:54 PM	#13
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,843 Massachusetts	Infiltrator We need to get inside. __________________ [17:53] <&Deck_Knight> If I Cite and Prune CiteandPrune's post, what does that make me? [17:54] <Birkal> a citeandprune cite and prunner [17:54] <%DHR> O_o lol [17:54] <+Mos_Quitoxe> Cite and Prune doesn't do enough of either [17:55] <+Mos_Quitoxe> can we make him change it or force him to pay damages [17:55] <&Deck_Knight> It would be a lot easier for him to Cite and Prune if we made him a mod. [17:56] <&Deck_Knight> I delegate this task to Birkal. [17:57] <Birkal> >:\| Last edited by DougJustDoug; Mar 16th, 2013 at 2:46:53 PM. Reason: Misspelling, really?

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:05:16 PM	#14
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:12:53 PM	#15
psykokitty Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 121	Infiltrator __________________ You've got to lose to know how to win.

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:15:37 PM	#16
Vann Accessible Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 61 Portland, OR	Infiltrator It has a very small niche for countering Dual Screens Lat@s/Espeon/Xatu. That is something, I suppose. I was all for Leaf Guard but I'm just glad it wasn't Water Veil. It didn't even make sense. It's a grass type...

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:15:49 PM	#17
Dogfish44 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,355 Deity of Misfortune	Ineffective Ability __________________ CAPASB Team & Reffing Profile ASB Ruling? It might be here! 02:47:37 AM ~ <%Objection> i'm neutral on boobs

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:16:01 PM	#18
Fanal Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 93 Out there. Wherever that might be.	Infiltrator

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:19:05 PM	#19
Unoriginal Name Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 598 Give up all hope of me ever getting a good avatar.	Infiltrator Yay, no Leaf Guard! I am now satisfied with the secondary ability. __________________ <Birkal> subway wanna flash a reffie? <Birkal> I mean -__- <Birkal> ref a flashie ASB Team <3 Glacier CAPASB Tower Defense Development - Outrageous in every way!

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:19:49 PM	#20
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,625 Greece	Infiltrator __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check!

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:24:08 PM	#21
jas61292 likes his numbers Moderator Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,243 Strong as a Corsola	Infiltrator It's practically ineffective, but is 100% in line with our goals. Seems like the perfect choice to me. __________________ <jas61292> I record everything <nyttyn> prove it. <nyttyn> WHAT WAS THE VERY FIRST THING I EVER SAID IN THIS CHANNEL. <jas61292> [06/02/12 \| 12:43] <NyttyN> Huh what deo you know shelll smash did get banned <nyttyn> what. <nyttyn> well congratulations jas your stalker nexus has reached an all time high.

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:25:32 PM	#22
Pwnemon Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,990 Maryland	Ineffective Ability __________________ [11:56pm] Pwnemon: statutory rape and all [11:56pm] bmelts: i have such a huge boner right now [9:28pm] Kadew: pwnemon that signature is like an x marking the spot of treasure, except instead of treasure its a pile of humorous garbage that turtles crapped out

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:29:05 PM	#23
umbriel Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 218	Ineffective Ability

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:29:40 PM	#24
WhiteDMist If happy ever after did exist Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 515 I'm at a payphone!	Ineffective Ability __________________ Message me for NU RMT rates! PU: Pokemon Database The PU Viability Rankings PU- NU in NU PU Research Week Project PU

Mar 16th, 2013, 2:34:48 PM	#25
Roserade Raider Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 268 Potomac, Maryland	Infiltrator