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Mar 1st, 2013, 9:40:51 AM
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RU Stats: February 2013
February Stats
RU Metagame Analysis
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RU moveset stats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576132/ and now for some interesting things involving the stats.... | 1 | Slowking | 19.86340% | 9416 | 17.913% | 7505 | 17.495% | | 2 | Nidoqueen | 19.51007% | 8619 | 16.397% | 7085 | 16.516% | After being #1 most used Pokemon in RU for several months, Nidoqueen has been usurped by Slowking as the most popular Pokemon in the tier, no surprise really, as Slowking is absolutely amazing in this meta (or really any RU meta for that matter) and the two are easily the top 2 best Pokemon in the tier. | 6 | Cinccino | 13.90155% | 7404 | 14.086% | 5847 | 13.630% | holy shit wow thats a huge jump in usage, moving all the way up from NU to being one of the top 10 most used in the whole tier, although tbh, while Cinccino is really good, i dont think it particularly deserves to be a top 10 pokemon, thoughts? | 11 | Sandslash | 10.96390% | 5609 | 10.671% | 4731 | 11.029% | | 15 | Kabutops | 10.41647% | 5069 | 9.643% | 3974 | 9.264% | .-., all i have to say | 30 | Feraligatr | 7.89754% | 4217 | 8.023% | 3356 | 7.823% | I really expected this to happen sooner tbh, while Feraligatr isnt a bad Pokemon (far from it in fact, hes still damn good) its been getting a ton of competition from fellow physical water-type Kabutops lately, who has a great secondary STAB and access to Rapid Spin, a crucial move on a ton of teams, which makes it the more appealing option to many people. | 48 | Emboar | 5.62367% | 3016 | 5.738% | 2453 | 5.718% | Nice to see Emboar hanging in there, while he didnt move up to RU via legitimate means, he deserves it for sure, having a ton of perks over the other Fire-types in the tier, most notably not being weak to Stealth Rock | 55 | Mesprit | 3.99523% | 2043 | 3.887% | 1712 | 3.991% | | 56 | Hariyama | 3.85850% | 2302 | 4.379% | 1987 | 4.632% | | 57 | Primeape | 3.48148% | 1908 | 3.630% | 1584 | 3.692% | | 58 | Klinklang | 3.42861% | 1872 | 3.561% | 1510 | 3.520% | | 59 | Mandibuzz | 3.36189% | 1755 | 3.339% | 1407 | 3.280% | | 60 | Rhydon | 3.35435% | 1936 | 3.683% | 1641 | 3.825% | | 63 | Scolipede | 3.05652% | 1742 | 3.314% | 1484 | 3.459% | | 65 | Munchlax | 2.74755% | 1485 | 2.825% | 1143 | 2.664% | Man, NU's really going to have a field day with all these potential dropdowns, i guess its all the RU playerbase can do after countless months of stealing their best pokemon and giving next to nothing in return :s. | 64 | Alomomola | 2.79161% | 1373 | 2.612% | 1150 | 2.681% | Cherub Agent's not going to be happy :( | 70 | Murkrow | 1.60918% | 641 | 1.219% | 498 | 1.161% | wat Theres a lot more that i'd like to say, but i'd also like to leave some room for discussion at the same time, so for now, happy posting! :)
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
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Is Emboar really that good?
It's pulling almost 8% even for 1850 stats. I was really hoping it'd drop down to NU, but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen...
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:47:20 AM
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Damn you Cinccino, damn you to hell. Pushing Entei down to seventh is no place for some weird chinchilla thing. Although Entei is ahead on the 1850 stats. I'll just tell myself that those are the real test.
Amoonguss at 14th. Not only that, but both it and Cinccino look unspammed in the moveset stats. At least that makes up for it. I've always liked Amoonguss. Wait, no. Rhydon at 60th cancels it out. Too low people! SR setter and physical tank? Use it. Really. It works. Good to see Nidoqueen get out of the top spot, although I don't much like Slowking either.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:54:29 AM
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I'm surprised rotom is that low. It's been very useful on the teams I've used, as well as being a solid spinblocker.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
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Yeah i'd say emboar's really good in the current RU, while it gets some competition as a physical fire type from Entei it has quite a bit that makes it stand out, most notably a great secondary Fighting STAB to help vs the Rock-types that beat give Entei trouble and the neutrality to Stealth Rock that comes along with it. Choice Scarf Emboar has proven itself to be a great glue Pokemon on offensive teams, providing a check to a ton of common threats like Escavalier, Absol, Lilligant, Sceptile, Durant, and most Hail abusers, while also making a good cleaner with its high powered STABs. Not to mention that all the recent metagame shifts have been nothing but kind to emboar, from Hail and Durant reentering the tier to Cresselia getting rebanned, pretty much every metagame change has made Emboar an even better option overall. Also, looking at the potential drops from UU, its seems like this trend is going to continue, as both Houndoom and Zoroark struggle are at least checked by Choice Scarf Emboar, not to mention the fact that it makes a good illusion partner for the latter as well .-.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 11:09:01 AM
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This stats are slightly better than the past months, but still people dont realize that things like Sandslash, Dusknoir, Hitmonchan or Whimsicott are pretty bad Pokemon. And still there a lot of Pokemon that deserve more love like #35 Escavalier, #44 Qwilfish, #47 Poliwrath, #50 Snover or #71 Piloswine for example. Pokemon like #149 Fraxure are still understimated >:
About Cinccino, i agree with Molk, its pretty good Pokemon: very good speed that allows it to revenge kill a lot of threats, can hit decently hard and its p good to combat Smeargle and hail because its ability to break sash and Substitute from things like Glaceon or Walrein. But its very frail, and the recoil for lo and hazards make it easier to rk him. Also hasnt resintance to make easier for him switch in. Finally hasnt the ability to pass steel-types like Steelix or Klingklang. because of this flaws isnt that great to be that high. 1850 stats arent that great. The fact that Dusknoir is #23 or Sandslash #25 make means that still stats are pretty damn :( |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 11:18:32 AM
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| 42 | Electivire | 6.19031% | 3706 | 7.050% | 2959 | 6.898%
| 108 | Zangoose | 0.59047% | 332 | 0.632% | 252 | 0.587% | People can explain This?? |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
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Interesting that Cinccino managed to find his way all the way up to the top 10. That's crazy! Amoonguss also skyrocketed. Looks like RU is gonna finally be rid of Munchlax, and NU can have him (although he might be thrown to the wolves Sawk and Golurk).
Snover needs more usage, as does Feraligatr who experienced a huge drop. Congrats to the new KING of RU though, Slowking deserved it! It won't be getting different, as Nidoqueen is most likely moving to UU next tier shift. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
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It'll be really interesting to see what happens when (I'm going to go ahead and say when) RU loses Nidoqueen. In a way, I guess it'll kind of be a validation for all the people who said it deserved to be BL2.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 12:07:24 PM
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Lol molk, I can assure you that i've now found a way around Alomomola :P
Also be ready for a major shitstorm when Houndoom drops to RU, it may well have a bigger impact than Nidoqueen. And of course Emboar will get even better than it is now... porky's a damn good pokemon in RU and just gets better and better
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Mar 1st, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
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wow there have been some huge changes this month. Cinccino and Amoonguss have both shot up in use, cinccino especially(higher than druddigon and entei). IMO, this isn't all that justified. Although cinccino is a pretty good pokemon, it brings nothing defensively, and falls to all priority moves and scarfers, due to its pathetic defences, unlike other fast pokes like sceptile, who can beat quagsire, lanturn and other bulky waters as well as revenge kill +2 tops. Amoonguss, although being an incredibly bulky pokemon and being very hard to kill, invites so many dangerous pokes in for free such as Druddigon, Moltres and Escavalier that are so difficult to switch into that amoonguss can become more of a liability on offensive teams.
But in general, the stats are much better than last month, and accurately represent the ru ladder. Absol, rotom-c and esca are much higher than last month, as is moltres. Sandslash and dusknoir are still too high, but its definitely a big improvement which is good. @ Lolazo: The only explanation is that the PS playerbase is terrible.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 1:19:02 PM
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Yeah, Slowking has finally claimed the top spot! It's odd I seem to see Entei way more than Cincinno. I find it odd that despite all the criticism Dusknoir gets its gone up by 7 stages. I'm betting Munchlax, Mandibuzz, Primeape, and Scolipede will drop soon. Hariyama will hang on by just a little, and I'm depressed Klingklang has such low usage. 2nd favorite mon in RU right after slowking. Hope it doesn't drop Rhydon I bet can go either way but it might end up in the end in BL3.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 1:46:47 PM
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| 16 | Spiritomb | 10.29851% | 5320 | 10.121% | 4421 | 10.306% |
| 17 | Dusknoir | 10.20810% | 5722 | 10.886% | 4837 | 11.276% | NO NO NO NO NO. Dusknoir is, quite simply, crap. It is E rank in the viability thread, to be one spot below the good version of it and for it to be in the teens is just an outrage. I'm sorry, it is. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 2:01:44 PM
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I have a feeling Emboar is going to explode in usage this month.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 2:54:03 PM
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Also, why is Sandslash number 11? Is everyone that desperate for a spinner?
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Mar 1st, 2013, 2:57:58 PM
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:09:46 PM
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Amoonguss getting respect, not bad. Seriously though, barring the obvious outliers these stats are actually kind of respectable :O Absol and Emboar, among others, rising up in usage is pretty cool, and aside from the usual mediocre / sorely outclassed 'mons there isn't too much to complain heavily about it the upper stats. I don't know how I feel about Cincinno being so high, since its always seemed really mediocre to me, but maybe that's just because of how I teambuild, idk. Notwithstanding, I'd be really interested in Nidoqueen moving up, since it leaving the tier makes a lot of cool stuff more feasible, like Gurdurr for instance.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:27:53 PM
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Heh, some good stats to speak on.
| 1 | Slowking | 19.86340% | 9416 | 17.913% | 7505 | 17.495% | | 2 | Nidoqueen | 19.51007% | 8619 | 16.397% | 7085 | 16.516% | | 3 | Sceptile | 15.09543% | 7873 | 14.978% | 6069 | 14.148% | | 4 | Uxie | 15.02420% | 7110 | 13.526% | 6397 | 14.912% | Nothing really surprising here, the one thing noting though is that Nidoqueen got dethroned by Slowking. So now the name "SlowKING" holds true here lol. | 6 | Cinccino | 13.90155% | 7404 | 14.086% | 5847 | 13.630% | Cinccino, aside from being the cutest Pokemon ever, is a boss in RU. Seeing this only makes my day :D | 11 | Sandslash | 10.96390% | 5609 | 10.671% | 4731 | 11.029% | No. Please go to NU, Sandslash. You'd be good down there. | 14 | Amoonguss | 10.66805% | 5407 | 10.287% | 4457 | 10.390% | This is really good. I'm glad to see it's really popular in RU. Now NU is never getting it back! | 17 | Dusknoir | 10.20810% | 5722 | 10.886% | 4837 | 11.276% | Dusknoir is really fucking awful, and should be getting less than 1% usage. | 19 | Absol | 9.86598% | 5601 | 10.656% | 4279 | 9.975% | Yeah, one of the greatest sights ever seen. Absol is awesome in RU and it's a pleasure to see this much usage for it. | 21 | Rotom-Mow | 9.43646% | 4367 | 8.308% | 3676 | 8.569% | This thing makes the best Taco Storms in RU, which warrants it this good usage. Nice to see this. | 31 | Durant | 7.88209% | 3837 | 7.300% | 2969 | 6.921% | Huh? | 36 | Lilligant | 6.71094% | 3619 | 6.885% | 2781 | 6.483% | Lilligant wrecks in RU. smh. | 48 | Emboar | 5.62367% | 3016 | 5.738% | 2453 | 5.718% | | 50 | Snover | 5.44748% | 2493 | 4.743% | 2386 | 5.562% | Needs.More.Usage | 52 | Ferroseed | 5.04481% | 2775 | 5.279% | 2431 | 5.667% | This piece of shit functions very poorly in the current RU metagame and has no reason to be used over something like Roselia or Qwilfish. Please stop using this and let it rot in NU, because it sucks so hard it's not even funny. | 51 | Medicham | 5.39212% | 2860 | 5.441% | 2330 | 5.432% | | 53 | Crawdaunt | 4.98578% | 3096 | 5.890% | 2330 | 5.432% | | 55 | Mesprit | 3.99523% | 2043 | 3.887% | 1712 | 3.991% | | 58 | Klinklang | 3.42861% | 1872 | 3.561% | 1510 | 3.520% | | 59 | Mandibuzz | 3.36189% | 1755 | 3.339% | 1407 | 3.280% | | 60 | Rhydon | 3.35435% | 1936 | 3.683% | 1641 | 3.825% | | 61 | Walrein | 3.15593% | 1534 | 2.918% | 1166 | 2.718% | | 62 | Jynx | 3.14639% | 1753 | 3.335% | 1324 | 3.086% | | 63 | Scolipede | 3.05652% | 1742 | 3.314% | 1484 | 3.459% | | 64 | Alomomola | 2.79161% | 1373 | 2.612% | 1150 | 2.681% | | 69 | Golurk | 1.80637% | 898 | 1.708% | 775 | 1.807% | These guys (Well Mandibuzz, Jynx, and I guess Mesprit must be female) plus Roselia, Ludicolo, the birds (Swellow and Bravi), Gardevoir, and Tauros are all underrated. Why not give 'em a shot? | 65 | Munchlax | 2.74755% | 1485 | 2.825% | 1143 | 2.664% | About time it leaves. Quote:
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:43:56 PM
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| 1 | Slowking | 19.86340% | 9416 | 17.913% | 7505 | 17.495% |
| 25 | Tangrowth | 8.83899% | 4442 | 8.451% | 3564 | 8.308% | These two form one of the absolute best defensive cores, each tanking a different side of the attacking spectrum, and with both getting Regenerator, their lifespans are nearly infinite. No wonder they get used so much.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:44:11 PM
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Im pretty surprised about Cincinno at #6 though, for me its never been quite powerful enough and really has no bulk whatsoever. I guess its nice for stopping Focus Sash leads and Substitute Pokemon but alot of teams have something like Uxie that can live anything quite easily and cripple with Twave or they have a Steel/Ghost type + Scarfer which really hinders it, Kings Rock is annoying as hell though i'll give you that.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 8:35:21 PM
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It shocks me how different the stats look from last week. Cincinno moved up like 10 spots and Feraligatr went from #10 to #30? Also Amoonguss and Absol really shot up too, not to mention Emboar is holding its own. I guess they all did deserve to move up... but I could have sworn they weren't really as common as they are now (to be fair I haven't battled for 2 weeks due to restrictions)
On the other Munchkax, Scolipede, Mandibuzz, and wtf Rhydon look like they will move down. Klinklang and Primeape are close, but not quite there yet. They all kinda deserve it except Rhydon to be honest, they are mostly only OK or just bad. Also note that Dusknoir is rocking a fairly high 23rd in the 1850 stats, so its being used well somewhere up there.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 9:44:31 PM
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| 18 | Accelgor | 10.02644% | 5332 | 10.144% | 4539 | 10.581% |
Cmon guys, try using that Scarfed Final Gambit more. Get it in the top 10 ffs. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
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Though to be fair, I'm probably the only person who runs foul play spiritomb. |
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 7:20:58 AM
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Moveset stats say about 15% of spiritombs run Foul Play. Which could, conceivably be just one or two players.
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