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Mar 1st, 2013, 9:50:49 AM
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UU Stats: February 2013
Ups to the amazing Antar
February 2013 Usage Stats
Usage Changes Since January
Metagame Analysis
Lead Usage Stats
Moveset Statistics
1850 Stats
Difference between 1850 and Standard
There were some big changes within the tier this past month. After ranking second last month, Blastoise takes a huge (and many will argue deserved) hit in usage. After rising in usage for a few months, Gligar takes a substantial hit as well. Arcanine has been doing pretty well and rivaling Darmanitan, but it took a rather large hit. Froslass continues it's ascent to UU relevancy with the largest boost in % usage, and if you look closely, Cinccino had more than .5% bump, maybe in response due to its faster Speed and access to a Skill Link Rock Blast. Despite being suspected, Chandelure actually fell in usage, but went up in ranking due to Blastoise's fall. Lots of other interesting stats, get to discussing! Last edited by Antar; Mar 1st, 2013 at 10:40:18 AM. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:11:11 AM
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Blastoise's drop is definitely deserved, it's rarely very relevant in battles at all. Froslass' increase is predictable as well, a large number of teams are weak to Froslass, and the poor spinners in the metagame lead to several Spikes on the field for the whole game. Froslass leads are ridiculous, even 2hkoing Azelf that try to Taunt them. The most underrated Pokemon as far as usage is concerned is probably Cofagrigus, which probably could be used on more teams than it is now. 10% is too low for a Pokemon that can both stall and sweep a significant portion of the meta.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:48:16 AM
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No it isn't lol. 10% is fucking huge when you think about it. If anything Nidoqueen's the one Pokemon that I really think deserves to be much, much higher. Seriously, it's like a one-Pokemon core in the sense that it can attack, defend, break walls, and set up Stealth Rock all at the same time. Togekiss is also a bit too low imo; it's ridiculously good.
Bronzong being so high doesn't surprise me because I seriously see the fucker every 5 games, which is absurd because it's not even good. Gligar being that high, on the other hand, does kind of surprise me because I don't see it as often. Also, remember how the other day people were getting on my case on IRC about offense not being the most prominent playstyle in UU anymore... Quote:
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Mar 1st, 2013, 1:21:30 PM
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Hm, Machamp is still not hitting RU numbers? I thought for sure around this time that people would realize that there are better Fighting types in the tier, making him all but obsolete.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 2:25:05 PM
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Heracross still at #1
 . And it's gonna be there till it gets priority imo.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 2:47:44 PM
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Seems like people underestimate the threat that is Vacuum Wave Heracross.
I can't believe Nidoqueen finally surpassed Nidoking in any stats, even if it's only on the 1850 stats. She's been overshadowed by her harder-hitting sibling ever since their introduction, and even though I don't have proof, I'm pretty sure this is the first time Queen has actually surpassed him. About that, I seriously question how much better offensive Queen is. The thing is, while she can invest more in bulk and run Modest, and King is too tempted by that 270 Speed point to invest more than 96 points in bulk and likes to run a Timid nature, the fact that Nidoqueen both needs LO to seriously harm stuff and misses Lefties recovery a lot when checking Heracross, Zapdos, and Raikou—since she can basically only switch in once on them—makes me doubt if she's really all that better. Nidoking can run a spread of 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe Timid to get that jump point over neutral base 85s—SD Hera, Kingdra and Offensive Cune—while keeping nice physical bulk allowing it to make a decent check to Heracross. There's also the fact that, Offensive Nidoqueen dies to a +2 Guts boosted CC/Megahorn from Hera before she can do anything, and King can outspeed and kill it without being harmed. Of course, there's very little outside of that, but since people continually state that Queen is a great Hera check... King can also creep 136 Spe base 100s, the main offender being Zapdos, so there's that I guess. On the whole, I still believe Queen to be a bit better, but I can't really say she's /that/ good. King's speed tier is just so good to my eyes... Then again, the sets I'm comparing mean that the only thing going for him is that, since he isn't even running a Modest nature. EDIT: Another thing, damn yes Rhyperior hitting top 10 on 1850 stats. Surpassing stuff like Cofag, Zapdos, and Kingdra. It's a nice utility Pokemon for sure. Blastoise dropping in usage might mean that more people are realizing that sometimes it isn't worth to run a Spinner, even though the increase in Froslass usage would mean that there might be even more reason now than a few months back, lol. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:50:43 PM
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Yeah, some stats to speak on.
| 1 | Heracross | 18.85350% | 25269 | 18.234% | 19633 | 17.120% | | 2 | Chandelure | 17.76652% | 24161 | 17.435% | 19882 | 17.338% | Nothin' too surprisin tbh. | 3 | Mienshao | 16.23877% | 20305 | 14.652% | 16549 | 14.431% | This thing is like..the best Pokemon in UU. Very good, although I do think it should be higher. | 7 | Victini | 14.13846% | 17841 | 12.874% | 14682 | 12.803% | This thing is a beast. Prepare, this thing is gonna wreck you everywhere | 8 | Umbreon | 13.68296% | 17944 | 12.949% | 14935 | 13.024% | I guess its Cleric/WishPasser prowess is needed a lot? | 10 | Flygon | 13.10315% | 17854 | 12.884% | 14435 | 12.588% | | 11 | Bronzong | 12.99954% | 17840 | 12.874% | 16321 | 14.232% | I'm honestly surprised at these two being this high. They're not that good lol. (I'd use Kingdra>Flygon any day lol) | 14 | Hitmontop | 11.57645% | 14649 | 10.571% | 12190 | 10.630% | This thing should be like...50 at best. Lol, it's horribly outclassed. | 17 | Crobat | 11.15498% | 14938 | 10.779% | 12944 | 11.287% | | 18 | Cofagrigus | 10.95366% | 14277 | 10.303% | 11778 | 10.271% | Wait, but these two are good! | 22 | Rhyperior | 10.22636% | 13913 | 10.040% | 11914 | 10.389% | Good Pokemon, high usage. Rhyperior should be Top 20 though, it's a good check to the premier special sweeper in the tier! | 25 | Azelf | 8.38696% | 11226 | 8.101% | 9903 | 8.636% | I like the usage of this. This thing is a beast. | 28 | Ambipom | 8.28428% | 12882 | 9.296% | 11428 | 9.965% | Arrrrgggggggh. | 31 | Suicune | 7.72393% | 9864 | 7.118% | 8217 | 7.165% | Good. Suicune is pretty good in the tier. Not the best Pokemon ever, but still really good and deserves this credit. | 40 | Machamp | 6.48443% | 9293 | 6.706% | 7569 | 6.600% | Machamp should not be here. Like Shitmontop, it's horribly outclassed and needs to be RU already. | 44 | Porygon-Z | 5.86283% | 8533 | 6.158% | 6742 | 5.879% | | 45 | Rotom-Heat | 5.73137% | 7524 | 5.429% | 6517 | 5.683% | | 47 | Bisharp | 5.14127% | 7192 | 5.190% | 5915 | 5.158% | | 49 | Abomasnow | 4.78424% | 6661 | 4.807% | 6182 | 5.391% | | 50 | Nidoqueen | 4.59094% | 5273 | 3.805% | 4593 | 4.005% | These are some very good Pokemon who are sadly underrated... | 54 | Dusclops | 4.15884% | 6453 | 4.657% | 5548 | 4.838% | No. Just no. Outside of that, Houndoom and Zoroark are still clinging on. Meloetta is pretty close to RU range, looks like. But oh well. I feel like my team bumped Cinccino usage up quite considerably.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 3:57:40 PM
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With the general hate towards the Rapid Spinners of the tier, is there a good non OU Rapid Spinner? What makes a Rapid Spinner good in the first place?
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Mar 1st, 2013, 4:54:26 PM
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This is all theory, but I'd say Starmie would be an example of a good UU Rapid Spinner. Good typing, great coverage, decent power, blazing Speed, all redeem the momentum killing of Rapid Spin, and might bring Rapid spin back to balance and moderate offense tams. |
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Mar 1st, 2013, 8:06:25 PM
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I'm annoyed that Zoroark is so low, but eh what can you do. It's not an easy Pokemon to use, and it offers very little defensive utility.
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Mar 1st, 2013, 9:38:46 PM
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Mar 1st, 2013, 10:23:42 PM
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The first thing I notice with these stats is that we finally have a form of "1337" stats, the 1850 stats. Now we finally have something to properly gauge what the tier is really all about. However, I do wish the cutoff was a tad higher, like 1875 or maybe even 1900, as you then get to truly see what's being used and what isn't.
Seems that spinners in general are on the decline, with Blastoise and Hitmontop both dropping in usage since Janurary. I feel this will do the tier better, with better Fighting-types and bulky Water-types occupying those formerly occupied team slots. Outside of that, there's really nothing out of the ordinary regarding these stats.
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 8:08:43 AM
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 1:52:59 PM
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| 1 | Heracross | 18.85350% | 25269 | 18.234% | 19633 | 17.120% |
| 2 | Chandelure | 17.76652% | 24161 | 17.435% | 19882 | 17.338% | | 3 | Mienshao | 16.23877% | 20305 | 14.652% | 16549 | 14.431% | | 4 | Roserade | 15.54408% | 20134 | 14.529% | 16553 | 14.435% | | 5 | Blastoise | 15.48519% | 20765 | 14.984% | 17595 | 15.343% | Nothing too suprising here except blastiose's high usage. It's good but not THAT good. | 49 | Abomasnow | 4.78424% | 6661 | 4.807% | 6182 | 5.391% | | 50 | Nidoqueen | 4.59094% | 5273 | 3.805% | 4593 | 4.005% | These two need more usage. Abomasnow is amazing and being the only viable weather user definetly gives it a niche. Nidoqueen is a great counter to stuff like heracross and mienshao and has great offensive presence. | 56 | Tornadus | 3.88484% | 4893 | 3.531% | 3982 | 3.472% | Another pokemon that deserves to be in the top ten that is this low. Tornadus is very good and it's acrobatics set is amazing and having lower usage than dusclops is an insult. If it drops to RU... I don't even want to know what will happen.
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 2:07:40 PM
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 2:11:39 PM
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The only thing Crobat really has over Tornadus is survivability and higher Speed. Corbat's better off being a pivot or a Revenge Killer with its Choice Band set.
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Mar 4th, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
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Which Steel type pokemon is actually worth staying in with Tornadus?
The fact Abomasnow is so underused makes me one sad panda :( |
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Mar 4th, 2013, 5:01:41 PM
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Tornadus has 2 ways to support its team, which would be Rain Dance and Tailwind. Rain Dance is great to support Kingdra, while Tailwind is great to support wall breakers such as LO Darmanitan and Modest Nidoking, but since Tornadus is more or less a one time use kind of Pokemon, it is incredibly hard to fit onto a balanced team.
Although it look like Tornadus is likely to be OU again by next month, so Tornadus' niche in UU might become unoccupied again. Last edited by Warb; Mar 4th, 2013 at 8:23:52 PM. |
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Mar 21st, 2013, 11:17:56 PM
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It's interesting how Tornadus is moving towards OU, though it's never really been a problem since it's dropped, probably just considering Torn-T's ban.
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