CAP 5 - Part 4 - Primary Ability Poll 1

[Birkal*]

Excellent ability discussion; that will serve as a solid base for this voting period. Throughout the next several days, we'll be voting on the primary ability for CAP5.

This poll will be run with IRV voting, the details of which are outlined here. This means that you can upvote your favorite typing and downvote your least favorite. Be aware that order does matter in your votes! The first line is your favorite, the last line is your least favorite. Make sure you vote properly. Make sure that you bold your votes and nothing else! A typical vote might look like the following:

Most Preferred
Second Most Preferred
Third Most Preferred

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This poll will be open for 24 hours.

When voting, use only the ability! The list of possible votes include:

Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Harvest
Natural Cure

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Below is CAP 5 so far:

Originally Posted by Fat Base Speed

Name: Type Equalizer

Description: A pokemon whose presence in the metagame increases the usage of one or more underused types and simultaneously decreases the usage of one or more overused types.

Justification: Take a look at the OU usage statistics for January and you'll see that 9 out of the top 10 pokemon have either steel, water, dragon or fighting as one of their types, and extending it to the top 20 shows 16/20 with those types. We should also be asking ourselves why these trends exist so strongly and what can be done about them. In creating this CAP, we'd have to discuss in depth many different aspects of what makes a type and opinions can ultimately being tested in the playtest.

Questions To Be Answered:

• Is a types usefulness relative to the metagame or is it intrinsic? (Ie. Can any type be the "best" type given the right circumstances or do type match-ups, available STAB moves etc mean some types will always be better than others?)
• What exploitable weaknesses do "good" types in OU have? Are their currently pokemon that can exploit them and if so, how do they function differently to CAP5?
• How (if at all) will the targeted types adapt to the situation created? Will people choose different movesets, abilities, etc or will they just use them more/less? How is this linked to the way CAP5 functions strategically?
• What effects will the changes on certain types' presence have on the metagame?
• Which members of the targeted types will benefit and suffer from this most and why?
• By creating CAP5, have we learnt any new ways to counter good types or use bad types?

Typing: Grass / Dark

[Quanyails]

Harvest
Chlorophyll
Flower Gift

[jas61292]

Natural Cure
Flower Gift
Chlorophyll
Harvest

Connecting to sun via ability for its own sake is a flawed approach to the concept in my eyes. While all three sun abilities have good points to them, none help supplement the role of a pivot as well as Natural Cure.

[Eagle4]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Chlorophyll
Natural Cure

[Pwnemon]

Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Harvest

would even rather no connection to sun than be broken

[Birkal*]

Harvest
Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Natural Cure

I eagerly await destroying Pwnemon on the playtest ladder with my broken Oran Berry CAP 5 ;)

[Menace13]

Natural Cure

[DougJustDoug**]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Chlorophyll

[Timeblaze]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure

[GRs Cousin]

Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Harvest

...

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Grass-type? Check.
4x weak to Bug? Check.
Sun-moves? Check.
Natural Cure? Check.
Specially bulky? Check.
Nobody uses it in the sun? Double check.

Go home, Natural Cure CAP5, you're Celebi.

[Axaj]

Harvest
Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Natural Cure

[srk1214]

Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Chlorophyll
Harvest

Ironically, jas eliminating Cloud Nine will now lead to me voting for a Sun ability over a non-Sun one... which he finds "flawed." Ah well. Unintended consequences.

[ginganinja]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Chlorophyll

[deadfox081]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Chlorophyll

[Redjar]

Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Harvest
Chlorophyll

[paintseagull]

Chlorophyll
Harvest
Natural Cure
Flower Gift

[erisia]

Flower Gift
Chlorophyll
Harvest

[TheTraininator]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
Chlorophyll

[Unoriginal Name]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Chlorophyll
Natural Cure

Natural Cure makes it just as good on a goodstuff team, but Harvest still makes it viable without Ninetales controlling the weather, Sun's biggest downfall. Chlorophyll is covered by Venu and I bet we'd just make it a physical Dark variant if that happened, but it isn't as bad as NC.

[Roserade Raider]

Harvest
Flower Gift
Natural Cure

[Nyktos]

Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Harvest
Natural Cure

[umbriel]

Flower Gift
Harvest

[TooMuchSugar]

Harvest
Chlorophyll
Flower Gift
Natural Cure
I wouldn't really have a problem with any of these except Natural Cure, which I suspect would be amazing on a rain team.

[PKMN Hunter 18]

Natural Cure
Flower Gift
Chlorophyll

[TheMagicalCake]

Harvest

I used to use a Harvest Exeggcute in OU. It was awesome.