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Tornadus-T on the other hand forced everyone to carry a way to deal with it even if it wasn't as popular. Jirachi and Rotom-W might have already fit well on most teams, but being forced to use them AND keep them healthy all the way until late-game thanks to Regenerator is a little bit of a hassle. However, like I said... I could just be oblivious to Genesect's effect as I never saw it as that threatening. |
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I don't get if these are supposed to be pokes that dominate OU, or pokes that completely broke OU when allowed in it. In terms of overall dominating power/influence on OU in their times, things like Genesect and Excadrill are actually pretty low on the list.
List of bad-ass in terms of ripping the OU game a new one: 1. Shaymin-S (first and last unanimous ban) 2. Kingdra (before banned from Politoed teams) (could include Politoed here) ...it's actually hard to say whether Shaymin-S or Kingdra were more broken. 3. Darkrai 4. Blaziken 5. Deoxys-S 6. Excadrill 7. Genosect 8. Tornadus-T 9. Thundurus 10. Manaphy (+Politoed)
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1. Genesect: I don't even need a reason to tell you why a mixed scarfer with only one weakness could possibly punch through teams with just using U-turn and coverage moves.
2. Tornadus-T: Evading rocks with recovering HP from Regenorator, Tornadus-T happens to be a second best to me. Since the fall of Genesect, Torn-T was able to get a sprint on OU, but he hasn't left as huge of a dent that Genesect did... 3. Excadrill: Huge speed and terrifying attack. Enough said. 4. Deoxys-D: This is the sole reason why Hyper Offensive was viable to this day. I am sad to see such a good pokemon move to ubers, but it did too much to stay in OU. 5. Keldeo / Terrakion: One of the best sweepers to this day! Especially since they are S-rank, you know they are good. 6. Politoed / Scizor: Politoed centuralized the hole metagame. Scizor is here as well because since Genesect has came and gone, Scizor has been used more than ever. 7. Lati@s: After being unbanned, these guys serve as huge team supporters to this day. In either Sand or Rain, these guys can punch huge holes into teams. All you got to decide is offensive or defensive. 8. Dragonite: With gaining Multiscale, Dragonite can sweep in a ton of situations, but he still has problems so I have to put him lower on this list. 9. Chansey: With Wish being an all time must in stall, and Evolite making this blob a great wish sender, Chansey deserves some consideration for a spot. 10. Volcarona: Volcarona causes a ton of switches and can put dents on teams with just using Quiver Dance once or twice. It is one of the only rain abusing fire types I have seen. Well thats enough said. |
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Y'all are forgetting one important thing: Moody. Come on there's even a clause for it, it was pretty good while it was there.
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Moody was used mostly on Bibarel and Bidoof, if you want some logs, I got one here.
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Battle between Bidoof Master and Opponent started! Tier: Wifi Variation: +34, -25 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Opponent sent out Dragonite! Bidoof Master sent out Bidoof! Start of turn 1 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Dragonite used Thunder Wave! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Start of turn 2 The foe's Dragonite used Thunder Wave! The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed! Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 3 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 4 Bidoof used Defense Curl! Bidoof's Defense rose! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 5 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 6 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 7 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 8 Bidoof used Defense Curl! Bidoof's Defense rose! The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail! The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Defense! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 9 Opponent called Dragonite back! Opponent sent out Shaymin! Bidoof used Protect! But it failed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 10 Bidoof used Defense Curl! Bidoof's Defense rose! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Start of turn 11 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.! Start of turn 12 Bidoof used Defense Curl! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion! Start of turn 13 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Start of turn 14 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 16 Bidoof used Defense Curl! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 17 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 18 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 19 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 20 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 21 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 22 Bidoof used Defense Curl! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 23 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 24 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 25 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 26 Bidoof used Defense Curl! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 27 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Shaymin used Earth Power! Bidoof protected itself! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 28 Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Shaymin lost 16% of its health! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Shaymin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 29 Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Shaymin lost 51% of its health! The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Shaymin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 30 The foe's Shaymin used Seed Flare! The attack of the foe's Shaymin missed! Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Shaymin lost 44% of its health! The foe's Shaymin fainted! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Opponent sent out Cresselia! Start of turn 31 The foe's Cresselia used Psychic! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Cresselia lost 100% of its health! The foe's Cresselia fainted! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack! Opponent sent out Espeon! Start of turn 32 The foe's Espeon used Psycho Shock! Bidoof lost 76 HP! (27% of its health) Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Espeon lost 100% of its health! The foe's Espeon fainted! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Opponent sent out Exeggutor! Start of turn 33 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder! The attack of the foe's Exeggutor missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 34 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Exeggutor used Psycho Shock! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 35 Bidoof used Protect! Bidoof protected itself! The foe's Exeggutor used Psycho Shock! The attack of the foe's Exeggutor missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 36 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Exeggutor used Psycho Shock! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 37 Bidoof used Substitute! Bidoof made a substitute! The foe's Exeggutor used Psycho Shock! The attack of the foe's Exeggutor missed! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 38 Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Exeggutor lost 38% of its health! The foe's Exeggutor used Psycho Shock! Bidoof's substitute faded! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 39 Bidoof used Rollout! The foe's Exeggutor lost 61% of its health! The foe's Exeggutor fainted! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Opponent sent out Dragonite! Start of turn 40 Bidoof used Rollout! It's super effective! The foe's Dragonite lost 100% of its health! The foe's Dragonite fainted! Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy! Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Defense! Bidoof restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Opponent sent out Nattorei! Start of turn 41 Bidoof used Rollout! It's not very effective... The foe's Nattorei lost 100% of its health! The foe's Nattorei's Iron Barbs hurts Bidoof The foe's Nattorei fainted! Bidoof Master won the battle! Bidoof Master: Now you know the power of the ultimate Pokémon! Opponent: gg
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 How could you forget me? When you think of Sand Offense, the first Pokemon to pop into anyone's head is this guy right here: Landorus He had Sand Force which pretty much scared every living thing out there if it had its feet on the Ground. Even so, Flying Types and Levitators would crumble helplessly, if this guy had Gravity or Smack Down. Landorus was also very popular as he could run a multitude of sets. It may appear to be Scarfed Landorus, until your Gliscor dies to an EB HP Ice. Bring around BW2, and this guy is still ripping teams, revenging sweepers, poking holes in the opponents team, sweeping and making hot coffee in 90 seconds. Game Freak also thought it'd be funny to give our Genie Sheer Force. Oh, it definitely lived up to that expectation all right. Things that used to laugh at Physical Landorus variants were now being blown up by STAB LO Sheer Force Boosted Earth Powers. Emphasize Power. This guy really was influential on the BW Metagame, as he really epitomized Sand Offense. Without a shadow of doubt in my mind, this guy deserves to be a Titan.  Remember me well Smogon
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Mar 7th, 2013, 10:58:30 PM
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 In Essence an Intimidating Sledge Hammer! How could we forget the new form of Landorus Therian!? Landorus Therian has 145 Atk, 89 Hp, and 90 with Intimidate as its ability. Even before it was being used incorrectly with scarfs it was predicted to be used more for momentum, which it changed into over time. Choice Banded Earthquakes, U-turns, Stone Edges, and Super Powers with base 145 attack have devistating power. With BW 2 access to Stealth Rocks Landorus Therian became a great bulky Intimidator choice as well. If having extremely good coverage and U-turn wasn't enough you could always help yourself to his wall breaking and sweeping Sword Dance, Gravity, Substitute, Bulk Up, and the still popular Rock Polish LO combinations. Personally the top ten in my opinion are quite obviously: Blaziken/Excadrill/Genesect/Thundurus-I/Tornadus-T/ Latios/ Terrakion/ Keldeo/ Landorus-I(and Therian)/ Garchomp or Kyurem Black or Dragonite The order is capricious. Ninetales and Politoed as the new auto weather Pokemon is huge; combinations like Volt Switching, Dragon Power, Sun+ Dugtrio and Chlorophyl Pokemon, and Deo-D have at one time made huge impacts in the meta, but are not all big ten powerhouses necessarily. Garchomp's definitely still powerful, but less of a threat because of the new faster Pokemon and because of Landorus Therian's presence as well. Dragonite is definitely a powerhouse with the multiscale boost, but after adjustment and upping Forretress's usage I just forgot about how good he was lol. Oh and am I the only one who thinks Stoutland should be somewhere in the top 25??? __________________________________________________ _________________________________________________
The bottom line is that this generation has more power than any other Generation and I can't wait to see some of that power return from Ubers in Gen 6.
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Mar 8th, 2013, 1:59:07 PM
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 Just remember if Swift Swim + Drizzle ban was never put in place, Kingdra would still be at the top of the pack. GF intended this to be one of the most dominant Pokemon outside of ubers. If the Swift Swim ban didn't exist, Kingdra would be the #1 Dragon-- an SSS class Pokemon. Well, it'd be banned to put it simply. Swift Swim Kingdra was widely agreed on to be more broken than SV Garchomp, Darkrai, Excadrill, Blaziken, Manaphy, and probably more broken than Shaymin-S too. Kingdra was EASILY more broken than Genosect, Keldeo, Torn-T and Thundurus-- we're talking about completely different classes of Broken. If you didn't play in the first few rounds of BW bans, you have NO idea what REAL broken is in OU. WHY DO YOU THINK FERROTHORN WAS #1 USAGE FOR ALL OF EARLY BW??
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Alright guys, sorry it took me a while to get this update out, I was busy being gone all weekend, but, I'm back, and the first round of voting has now officially begun! So, what will happen is I'll list the candidates for this round (and all subsequent rounds, while adding in any new contestants), and you guys will all vote on who you think should be in the running for top 10. So, the candidates are:
Kingdra Landorus Landorus-Therian Genesect Tornadus-Therian Deoxys-Speed Venusaur Rotom-Wash Politoed Terrakion Excadrill Blaziken Ferrothorn Garchomp Dragonite Volcarona Tyranitar Ninetales Scizor Jirachi Heatran Latios Keldeo Gliscor Celebi Shaymin-S Blissey Chansey Manaphy Thundurus Kyurem-B Voting will end Monday at 11:59 PM GMT-7, the results will be posted on tuesday, as well as naming new contestants, and backing up previous contestants with your opinions. |
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politoed terrakion deoxys-speed excadrill thundurus scizor landorus tyranitar ferrothorn garchomp honorable mentions: genesect, darkrai, shaymin-s, manaphy. none of them had a long enough stint in ou to really impact the entire bw ou metagame, but they were undeniably four of the strongest pokemon ever to grace the ou tier. |
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excadrill deo-s terrakion blaziken ninetales thundurus rotom-w ferrothorn Tyranitar This is the list for me. |
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Mar 10th, 2013, 4:18:56 PM
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Terrakion Politoed Tyranitar Ferrothorn Scizor Genesect Excadrill Shaymin-S Tornadus-T My reasoning behind this list is highlighted in my previous post. The order is just preference. |
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Mar 10th, 2013, 4:29:06 PM
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Politoed Tyranitar Scizor Ferrothorn Genesect Keldeo Terrakion Jirachi Blaziken Same list I made before with just a couple of changes. Last edited by Ehrmantraut; Mar 10th, 2013 at 5:05:25 PM. |
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First time posting in this thread but I have been keeping up with it since it was started so here is my Top Ten:
Politoed Ninetails Tyranitar Terrakion Gliscor Shaymin-S (even though I was not around for his era, the unanimous ban factor is reason enough) Ferrothorn Dragonite Genesect Excadrill EDIT: Quote:
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1. Politoed
2. Ninetales 3. Tyranitar 4. Excadrill 5. Genesect 6. Shaymin-S 7. Blaziken 8. Deoxys-S 9. Terrakion 10. Ferrothorn Some of these are obvious, the top three are purely because this is, without a doubt, the generation of weather. We also have Genesect, Excadrill, and Blaziken who shaped the OU tier for the time they were allowed. Deoxys-S is on the list because it was responsible for making Deoxys+5 sweepers one of the best play-styles available. Shaymin-S deserves credit for being the only Pokémon to ever be banned unanimously, and for the brief time it was allowed in OU, it was an absolute monster. We then have Terrakion, which has consistently been a major threat that every team has had to prepare for since the beginning. Finally, we have Ferrothron, which has been the most influential wall this generation, being able to stop even the mighty Kingdra before Aldaron's Proposal, as well as being a staple on rain teams as a hazards setter. |
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Mar 10th, 2013, 5:46:12 PM
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top ten in order:
Politoed Garchomp Terrakion Landorus Ferrothorn Thundurus Tyranitar Deoxys-S Ninetales The last one is a toss-up. There are plenty of mons that deserve this spot, however, I think that Volcarona wins as #10. |
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Roughly in order:
Politoed Tyranitar Deoxys-speed Terrakion Kingdra Ferrothorn Ninetales Rotom-w Excadrill Gliscor Imo, the most influential mons are the ones that have defined entire playstyles by themselves. Weather starters obviously, but also stuff like deo-s, rotom-w (p much countereacted rain's dominance by making SS viable), and gliscor (yeah, this guy p much MADE stall in BW1). Meanwhile, terrakion has been influential simply by its continual presence and threat--you literally cannot have a successful OU team that is weak to terra. Kingdra--come on guys, first complex ban basically for this, and it just let rain offense dominate as well as pushing its best counter, ferro, up to #1 for a while. Speaking of which, ferrothorn has p much kept defensive playstyles alive throughout BW, without this guy, offense would be the only playstyle imo. Excadrill was super powerful and basically meant you lost if you didnt have skarm, gliscor, or bronzong on your team...for about a month or smth, so #9. I feel like dragonite, latios, jirachi, and gene all barely miss out here, most likely over gliscor. Also, I'm not including skymin etc. because honestly, they werent metagame defining; they were just broken. IDR, but I kinda doubt its usage led to a sudden spike in weavile usage or w/e--just everyone was using it, and every battle revolved around it. Yeah, most overpowered or overcentralizing even, but not most influential imo. Guys, volc is not most influential. It's very strong or w/e but it does not create teamstyles and determine what is viable in OU. Also, I kinda wonder if forry should be nommed (if it's still ok). It has basically always been the face of stall, and it along with ferro kinda has defined it. Just a thought. Tenta could also go up there somewhere (can't believe I'm saying this) since it kinda created rain stall.
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Scizor Shaymin-Sky Rotom-W Excadrill Genesect Tyranitar Deoxys-Speed Ferrothorn Kingdra In no particular order. |
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Mar 10th, 2013, 5:57:37 PM
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I still think weighing something higher just because it was *less powerful* so didn't get the ban hammer/got the ban hammer later is ridiculous reasoning, so of all the Pokemon that had stints in BW OU, here are the top 10 powerful/influential:
Politoed Shaymin-S Kingdra (no SS restriction obviously, kind of goes hand-in-hand with Politoed) Darkrai Blaziken Deoxys-S Excadrill Genosect Tornadus-T Thundurus If you were to fuse Kingdra + Manaphy into Politoed's brokenness, than #10 would become Sand Veil Garchomp. (#11 would be a shared by Keldeo and Terrakion, the first "Great but not Broken" pokes of the list)
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Alright, well, this is a bit of a problem.
So, I was originally having it planned for you guys to vote on 1 mon to have as a candidate for the top 10 voting in September, so that the topic would be one that wasn't just a short-time thread. However, what I'm deciding to do with this, since this is how it's working this time, is I'm going to take the top 5 out of all the lists that are being voted on, and have those 5 as the candidates for in September. Now, the next voting period will only be on 1 mon, and how that will go down is you will basically just give an argument on one of the mons that was mentioned. Sorry for the confusion, but this way does work out as well I guess. |
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Just a suggestion, but maybe the best way to do the voting is to have everyone submit their top 10 list, #1 gets 10 points, #2 gets 9, etc., and then add up points and top ten go into list?
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Mar 10th, 2013, 9:59:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Politeod
Gensect Tyranitar Blaziken Deoyxs Terrakion Jirachi Dragonite Nintales Manphy
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Mar 12th, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
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Anyways, voting is now over, so it's time to crown the top 5 contestants for the top 10 titans. Your new candidates are: Politoed Tyranitar Ferrothorn Terrakion Deoxys-Speed These members will be edited in the op under the Candidates section. Well, now it's time for another week of discussion on who should be selected as a candidate for the top 10. Also, if you guys would want to, a way to help out this discussion would be posting what movesets actually made these pokes broken? What exactly was it's defining set that made it a titan? |
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