Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Poll 11

[Cooper]

Originally Posted by Fat Hyra

Only thing I don't like is the possibilty of Baton Pass. Tail Glow + Swords Dance would be okay alone, but add on Baton Pass and you have the fastest Baton Passer and the ability to pass +2 boosts on both ends of the spectrum. Much to powerful for my tastes.

Yeah, no BP. Swords Dance will be learned by TM, and tail Glow is received by breeding from Volbeat. This also limit the special sweeping abilities of Syclant outside his STAB, because it's impossible to get Tail Glow and Earth Power.

[sanjay120]

Originally Posted by Fat Deck Knight

"they once mistook a Magcargo for a Spheal and were incinerated."

4/20/1979

THE COLONY MUST NEVER FORGET

[GengarCrysis92]

I have a CRAZY idea. I really love RockotheTacho's images. So i was looking through them when i came across this: http://rockothetaco.deviantart.com/a...rnant-60219675 His entry says "Fire Ant". Now i was thinking of a Split evo? The first evo could be A normal type and evolves into Scylant or Infernant by stones. What do you think?

Edit: Not like Eevee. It would be like ranks in an Ant colony. Queen/Worker/Soldeir/Nurse/etc.

[Cooper]

Originally Posted by Fat GengarCrysis92

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I was originally going to shoot you down immediately, but you don't deserve that. Your idea makes sense, but I still say no. Having even a neutral bug evolve into either Ice or Fire pokemon would require some sort of event, like Glaceon had, and that would mean Nintendo would either need a place like the Ice Rock or a new stone. We didn't even want to ask for a new move, why would we want something like that?

[GengarCrysis92]

It was worth a try. It sounded ok, but i forgot there was no Ice Stone. Lol. So then might i suggest we use RocktheTacho as our designer from now on?

[Musashi1054]

As much as I hate to say it, I only really like a few of his creations. A lot of them are kind blah.

[Cooper]

Erm... no? Just because you think his art is impressive doesn't mean we can bypass the weeks-long art thread we had, as well as the three-part poll. He's welcome to participate, but "official designer" is out of the question.

[GengarCrysis92]

Ok. Again, just an idea.

[Havak]

IMO Cyzir's was still the best even without an Animation.

[Gothic Togekiss]

Now we know how Ninty/GameFreak feels when they have to make pokemon. Give them more respect in my opinion.

[MegaMewtwo]

Originally Posted by Fat Cooper

Yeah, no BP. Swords Dance will be learned by TM, and tail Glow is received by breeding from Volbeat. This also limit the special sweeping abilities of Syclant outside his STAB, because it's impossible to get Tail Glow and Earth Power.

Last I saw, this thing was planned to be in the bug and ground egg groups. Ground, as in Smeargle.

[Cooper]

Originally Posted by Fat MegaMewtwo

Last I saw, this thing was planned to be in the bug and ground egg groups. Ground, as in Smeargle.

I was only going to put it in Ground group for Earth Power, until I realized that Trapinch is Bug.

[Hyra]

Originally Posted by Fat Cooper

Yeah, no BP. Swords Dance will be learned by TM, and tail Glow is received by breeding from Volbeat. This also limit the special sweeping abilities of Syclant outside his STAB, because it's impossible to get Tail Glow and Earth Power.

Okay, I don't think Ice Beam/Focus Blast/Attack Order/Tail Glow is too bad though. I'm too lazy to check, but I think only Qwilfish and Tentacruel resist it.

Hm... and Attack Order/Ice Punch/Brick Break/Swords Dance for physical? Seems like the physical side will be easily walled by Steels because Superpower doesn't mix well with Swords Dance.

[Gothic Togekiss]

Originally Posted by Fat Hyra

Hm... and Attack Order/Ice Punch/Brick Break/Swords Dance for physical? Seems like the physical side will be easily walled by Steels...

How is a thing that have an fighting attack still walled by Steel type?

[Cooper]

Syclant isn't getting the Orders. They don't work flavor-wise, especially if this is a colony. Syclant can only be male, and therefore is a mindless drone incapable of ordering anything around. It's like Combee, I think.

[Deck Knight]

Originally Posted by Fat Gothic Togekiss

How is a thing that have an fighting attack still walled by Steel type?

Most Steel walls have either insanely high defense (Steelix), are neutral to fighting (Bronzong), or both(Skarm and Forry).

Originally Posted by Fat Cooper

Syclant isn't getting the Orders. They don't work flavor-wise, especially if this is a colony. Syclant can only be male, and therefore is a mindless drone incapable of ordering anything around. It's like Combee, I think.

Technically all workers and foragers in an ant colony are female, as the males are busy impregnanting and cleaning the Queen.

[Derek(PUK)]

TBH the pelvis of KOAs sprite looks liek shit how big it is and how much it goes forward. Cyvirs owns!

[sanjay120]

Originally Posted by Fat Cooper

Syclant can only be male

When was this decided?

[RockoTheTaco]

Originally Posted by Fat MiyamotoMusashi

As much as I hate to say it, I only really like a few of his creations. A lot of them are kind blah.

I agree. Only Sannec, Pernade, Brikait'd and Skeletank are ones I'm proud of. Some are oughtright terrible, like Sectome...

[ULra]

KOA gmv. Cyzir has no animation and Doug's is just too long.

[Arcadia Oni]

My vote goes to KoA, the sprite is very professional.

[Instinctive]

Originally Posted by Fat Deck Knight

Alternatively I could have said "they once mistook a Magcargo for a Spheal and were incinerated."

WOW...dude i laughed so hard at that. I think it woul dbe a great dex entry. It should be in the next poll somehow.

[DrCrashMD]

KoA's is the best, bar none. Doug's is a bit too... square, and Cyzir's is a bit too glittery.

[Hyra]

Originally Posted by Fat ULra

KOA gmv. Cyzir has no animation and Doug's is just too long.

Thanks for reading. Cyzir will obviously be making an animation if he was chosen. Not likely now, but still this is why I want people to have to post to vote, we can correct them if they use faulty logic.

[andersatan]

Originally Posted by Fat Hyra

Thanks for reading. Cyzir will obviously be making an animation if he was chosen. Not likely now, but still this is why I want people to have to post to vote, we can correct them if they use faulty logic.

I very much agree with you here, you vote KOA becuase no animation on, IMHO, the best one. vote on the actual sprite not the animation.