Pokemon Database Errors (Past Generations) - Page 2

Aquamentus · Apr 29th, 2010, 4:42:14 PM

^ Similarly, Lugia is missing Earth Power and Trick on its movepool page despite both moves being on its se ts.

Ray Jay · May 27th, 2010, 12:37:53 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/seismic_toss
On the seismic toss page, Blissey is not lsited.

Proboscidea · May 30th, 2010, 11:43:19 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/weather_ball
Cherrim isn't listed as one of the Pokemon that can get Weather Ball, though it gets it from breeding in HGSS.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/head_smash
Nidoking gets Head Smash by breeding in HGSS but he's not listed.

I may be wrong but these two Pokemon do not have access to these moves on Shoddy.

Mr.E · May 31st, 2010, 1:15:33 PM

Cloyster is not listed on the Spikes move page for G/S, despite the fact it learns it.

The G/S page for Leech Seed mentions that the user takes damage if the enemy has the Liquid Ooze trait. Traits don't exist in GSC.

lmitchell0012 · Jun 1st, 2010, 8:12:21 PM

Just wanted to post this message here. This was originally a message I sent to a mod, but I just copied and pasted it here.

It has currently been brought to my attention that the strategydex is not as up to date as it should be. I was discussing ambipom on the SQSA forum, and I was under the impression that it could not learn the elemental punches (thunderpunch, ice punch, and fire punch) because under the "moves" section of the strategydex it doesn't list those moves for ambipom. I stated this on the forum, and I was mocked and ridiculed by our fellow board members because apparently other sites such as serebii and marriland state that ambipom can learn these moves. Because of the lack of updates in the strategydex, it not only has made me look bad, but it has made smogon look terrible as well. I recommend making some serious updates to the strategydex.

smileydude689 · Jun 4th, 2010, 7:03:28 PM

I feel like this is a bit trivial, but nonetheless I shall report.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/icy_wind
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dusknoir/moves

In Dusknoir's list of moves, it doesn't state it can learn Icy Wind, which (according to Bulbapedia) it learns through tutoring.

Proof: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Icy_Wind

fitzy72 · Jun 6th, 2010, 9:20:42 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/snorlax/moves

That dosen't list the element punches, which snorlax get's. Other people on #stark confimed this.

ShravanP · Jun 9th, 2010, 3:44:59 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/fire_punch
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/jirachi/moves

Fire Punch doesn't list Jirachi as one of the Pokemon that learn it, and Jirachi doesn't list Fire Punch as one of its learned moves.

Analogman · Jun 10th, 2010, 10:34:46 AM

www.smogon.com/dp/moves/metronome

The following pokemons should be in the list, but aren't:

Alakazam
Ambipom
Celebi
Ludicolo
Machamp
Poliwrath
Jirachi
Mewtwo
Dusknoir
Hariyama
Medicham

Metronome is also missing in the /dp/<pokemonname>/moves page. But they're on Shoddy, so.....
Might have more, but that's what I found so far.

Ferrouswheel · Jun 18th, 2010, 3:37:55 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/togekiss/moves

Togekiss is not listed as having counter, a move that it's prevos get in 3rd gen, WildEep went and checked this for me.

fitzy72 · Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:45:22 PM

the following pokemon are listed as not getting softboiled despite getting it in FR,LG and emerald move tutor:
clefairy + evo's
mew
cleffa
togepi + evo's

c.falcon-arrgh · Jun 24th, 2010, 7:28:18 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/draco_meteor

According to shoddybattle, jirachi learns draco meteor, but the page doesn't show jirachi.

Delta 2777 · Jun 25th, 2010, 8:28:23 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charizard/moves

Fire Punch is missing from the movepool, same goes for Charmander and Charmeleon.

firecape · Jun 29th, 2010, 3:38:33 PM

Metagross's move list seems to be missed a great many moves that Smogon's shoddy says it has. (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/metagross/moves)

-Body slam
-Defense Curl
-Ice Punch
-Icy Wind
-Mimic
-Mud-Slap
-Rollout
-Snore
-Swift
-Thunderpunch

edit: Also here: http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ub...ing#threatlist, the threatlist says encoring Foretress is an option, which generally isnt a good idea, even if you have a rapid spinner.

Enroyalle · Jul 1st, 2010, 6:56:54 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/azurill/moves

Azurill can't learn Aqua Jet, unfortunately.

Mr.E · Jul 7th, 2010, 4:16:42 PM

http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/rhydon/moves
http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/dragonite

They get Body Slam as a carry-over from the RBY TM but it isn't listed in their Moves tab. I haven't checked other analyses but I'm guessing the movepool lists for a whole lot of first-gen pokémon are missing moves learned only through RBY TMs, might be something to look over...

Chateau · Aug 1st, 2010, 11:36:51 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/seismic_toss
Seismic Toss doesn't list any of the Pokemon that can learn it through 3rd gen tutors. I don't have time to look through all of them, but at least Blissey and Clefable don't have it listed as a move either.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blissey/moves
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/clefable/moves

DarkLynx · Aug 30th, 2010, 2:45:52 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/sucker_punch

Celebi learns it on the HGSS move tutor [I have to check if it learns on Plat too, but I don't have my DS with me right now].

This error also occurs on shoddy [not that this matter on this thread, just pointing out].

Black Buddha · Sep 4th, 2010, 9:23:47 PM

Regarding Related Moves-

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/avalanche

It lists payback as a dark type equivalent, however Payback has 0 priority as opposed to Avalanche's negative priority. Revenge, however, is the fighting type equivalent to Avalanche.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/icicle_spear

Arm Thrust is said to have more power and less accuracy; in fact it has more power but same accuracy according to the arm thrust page.

I'll post more if I find more.

Junk · Sep 8th, 2010, 9:01:21 PM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/barrage

Barrage should also have Exeggcute listed, as through breeding or a move relearner, it can also have Barrage. That is the same method as how Exeggutor learns Barrage.

bugmaniacbob · Sep 16th, 2010, 9:24:56 AM

There are a bunch of Pokemon under NFE that have analyses for UU, can we have them reclassified under NU? (ie. like Trapinch/Pikachu)

Here are the ones I know about:

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/sneasel
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/electabuzz
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dratini
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shelgon
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/haunter

I'll update this if I find any more.

Hawkstar · Feb 12th, 2011, 7:18:17 PM

Not quite sure where exactly to put this, but...

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/absol

Absol learns Feint as a starting Level Up move, but it is not listed in his movepool.

Rising_Dusk · Feb 12th, 2011, 8:20:27 PM

I have reopened this topic for people to post mistakes they notice in the on-site Pokemon database. Please check to make sure that what you are reporting has not been reported before in one of the above posts.

Banedon · Feb 21st, 2011, 7:50:20 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/lickilicky

Lickilicky learns Wish, but it's not listed in the Wish page.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/wish

Aeron Ee1 · Feb 21st, 2011, 7:57:05 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/chansey/moves
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blissey/moves

chansey and blissey lack seismic toss in their movepools

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/seismic_toss

a lot of Pokemon, in general, are missing from the Seismic Toss page.. I can only remember the Regis atm, but I'm pretty sure there's more.

I don't actually know where they get it, but they're in their sets...

May 31st, 2010, 1:15:33 PM	#29
Mr.E im the best Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,738	Cloyster is not listed on the Spikes move page for G/S, despite the fact it learns it. The G/S page for Leech Seed mentions that the user takes damage if the enemy has the Liquid Ooze trait. Traits don't exist in GSC. __________________ FREE AND the Jump non ice beam cleric blissey

Jun 1st, 2010, 8:12:21 PM	#30
lmitchell0012 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,121	Just wanted to post this message here. This was originally a message I sent to a mod, but I just copied and pasted it here. It has currently been brought to my attention that the strategydex is not as up to date as it should be. I was discussing ambipom on the SQSA forum, and I was under the impression that it could not learn the elemental punches (thunderpunch, ice punch, and fire punch) because under the "moves" section of the strategydex it doesn't list those moves for ambipom. I stated this on the forum, and I was mocked and ridiculed by our fellow board members because apparently other sites such as serebii and marriland state that ambipom can learn these moves. Because of the lack of updates in the strategydex, it not only has made me look bad, but it has made smogon look terrible as well. I recommend making some serious updates to the strategydex. __________________ Platinum FC 2665 0699 0580. Game name is Dawn. White FC 3783 1664 8708 I use RELEASED DREAM WORLD ABILITIES ONLY. I may use legal hacks. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3451853

Jun 10th, 2010, 10:34:46 AM	#34
Analogman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 12	www.smogon.com/dp/moves/metronome The following pokemons should be in the list, but aren't: Alakazam Ambipom Celebi Ludicolo Machamp Poliwrath Jirachi Mewtwo Dusknoir Hariyama Medicham Metronome is also missing in the /dp/<pokemonname>/moves page. But they're on Shoddy, so..... Might have more, but that's what I found so far. Last edited by Analogman; Jun 10th, 2010 at 11:27:17 AM.

Jun 18th, 2010, 3:37:55 PM	#35
Ferrouswheel Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 805 Riding a Ferriswheel	http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/togekiss/moves Togekiss is not listed as having counter, a move that it's prevos get in 3rd gen, WildEep went and checked this for me. __________________ There is nothing to fear, but fear itself, and the ghost of FDR.

Jun 24th, 2010, 7:28:18 AM	#37
c.falcon-arrgh Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 49 asdfqwerty	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/draco_meteor According to shoddybattle, jirachi learns draco meteor, but the page doesn't show jirachi. __________________ ಠ_ಠ

Apr 29th, 2010, 4:42:14 PM	#26
Aquamentus Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 186	^ Similarly, Lugia is missing Earth Power and Trick on its movepool page despite both moves being on its se ts.

May 27th, 2010, 12:37:53 AM	#27
Ray Jay Clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,507	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/seismic_toss On the seismic toss page, Blissey is not lsited.

Jun 4th, 2010, 7:03:28 PM	#31
smileydude689 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 32	I feel like this is a bit trivial, but nonetheless I shall report. http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/icy_wind http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dusknoir/moves In Dusknoir's list of moves, it doesn't state it can learn Icy Wind, which (according to Bulbapedia) it learns through tutoring. Proof: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Icy_Wind

Jun 6th, 2010, 9:20:42 AM	#32
fitzy72 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 153	http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/snorlax/moves That dosen't list the element punches, which snorlax get's. Other people on #stark confimed this.

Jun 9th, 2010, 3:44:59 PM	#33
ShravanP Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 234 Irvine, CA	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/fire_punch http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/jirachi/moves Fire Punch doesn't list Jirachi as one of the Pokemon that learn it, and Jirachi doesn't list Fire Punch as one of its learned moves.

Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:45:22 PM	#36
fitzy72 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 153	the following pokemon are listed as not getting softboiled despite getting it in FR,LG and emerald move tutor: clefairy + evo's mew cleffa togepi + evo's

Jun 25th, 2010, 8:28:23 PM	#38
Delta 2777 5% determination, 10% concentration, 85% luck Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,192	http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charizard/moves Fire Punch is missing from the movepool, same goes for Charmander and Charmeleon. __________________ #lifting on IRC <tito>: delta i never knew u won a smogon tour <tito>: congratz http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...N/9412ad9b.jpg

Jun 29th, 2010, 3:38:33 PM	#39
firecape This is the end... Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,048 This storys old, but it goes on and on until we disappear	Metagross's move list seems to be missed a great many moves that Smogon's shoddy says it has. (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/metagross/moves) -Body slam -Defense Curl -Ice Punch -Icy Wind -Mimic -Mud-Slap -Rollout -Snore -Swift -Thunderpunch edit: Also here: http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ub...ing#threatlist, the threatlist says encoring Foretress is an option, which generally isnt a good idea, even if you have a rapid spinner. __________________ I DONT DESERVE YOU Last edited by firecape; Jun 29th, 2010 at 7:45:43 PM.

Jul 1st, 2010, 6:56:54 PM	#40
Enroyalle Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 55	http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/azurill/moves Azurill can't learn Aqua Jet, unfortunately.

Jul 7th, 2010, 4:16:42 PM	#41
Mr.E im the best Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,738	http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/rhydon/moves http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/dragonite They get Body Slam as a carry-over from the RBY TM but it isn't listed in their Moves tab. I haven't checked other analyses but I'm guessing the movepool lists for a whole lot of first-gen pokémon are missing moves learned only through RBY TMs, might be something to look over... __________________ FREE AND the Jump non ice beam cleric blissey

Aug 1st, 2010, 11:36:51 PM	#42
Chateau Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 440	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/seismic_toss Seismic Toss doesn't list any of the Pokemon that can learn it through 3rd gen tutors. I don't have time to look through all of them, but at least Blissey and Clefable don't have it listed as a move either. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blissey/moves http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/clefable/moves

Aug 30th, 2010, 2:45:52 PM	#43
DarkLynx Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 686 Brazil	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/sucker_punch Celebi learns it on the HGSS move tutor [I have to check if it learns on Plat too, but I don't have my DS with me right now]. This error also occurs on shoddy [not that this matter on this thread, just pointing out]. __________________ DarkLynx's Yotube Channel Platinum Friend Code: 0517 3141 5995 [Always use this, unless I state otherwise on my thread] The Big Bang Theory - Tsubasa-kun & DarkLynx joint Thread [I'll be back on trading next month]

Sep 4th, 2010, 9:23:47 PM	#44
Black Buddha Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,152 bread > other food	Regarding Related Moves- http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/avalanche It lists payback as a dark type equivalent, however Payback has 0 priority as opposed to Avalanche's negative priority. Revenge, however, is the fighting type equivalent to Avalanche. http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/icicle_spear Arm Thrust is said to have more power and less accuracy; in fact it has more power but same accuracy according to the arm thrust page. I'll post more if I find more. __________________ sidscarf on Minecraft server \| BUddha on IRC Battle CAPacity sub-forum Smogcraft Rip Smogcraft v1

Sep 8th, 2010, 9:01:21 PM	#45
Junk Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 76 Taiwan	http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/barrage Barrage should also have Exeggcute listed, as through breeding or a move relearner, it can also have Barrage. That is the same method as how Exeggutor learns Barrage.

Sep 16th, 2010, 9:24:56 AM	#46
bugmaniacbob Fare thee well. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,038 Floccinaucinihilipilification	There are a bunch of Pokemon under NFE that have analyses for UU, can we have them reclassified under NU? (ie. like Trapinch/Pikachu) Here are the ones I know about: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/sneasel http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/electabuzz http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dratini http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shelgon http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/haunter I'll update this if I find any more. __________________ Art / C&C / The Smog / Longest Ever Analysis MkI / Longest Ever Analysis MkII / Warstories / Stupid Poem / CAP 4: Aurumoth

Feb 12th, 2011, 7:18:17 PM	#47
Hawkstar Are you hanging by a thread or swinging from the rope? Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 630 Western Pennsylvania	Not quite sure where exactly to put this, but... http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/absol Absol learns Feint as a starting Level Up move, but it is not listed in his movepool. __________________ Art thread! [22:11] Helias: FUCK YOU HAWKSTAR THAT'S NOT MY NAME

Feb 12th, 2011, 8:20:27 PM	#48
Rising_Dusk Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,742	I have reopened this topic for people to post mistakes they notice in the on-site Pokemon database. Please check to make sure that what you are reporting has not been reported before in one of the above posts.

Feb 21st, 2011, 7:50:20 AM	#49
Banedon Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 903	http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/lickilicky Lickilicky learns Wish, but it's not listed in the Wish page. http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/wish __________________ Half the people on this forum are extremely rude in-game. If you believe in politeness both in-battle and outside it, put this in your signature. UU Warstory: What do I do next?