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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:43:57 PM   #101
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I passed the quiz at 19/20 and live like 2 hours from NYC, so hopefully I'll get in. I'll be down in FL that weekend for the Trading Card Game World Championships as well, so I'll be able to check it out either way. If I get in, I'll be asking for a lot of help on this one. ;x
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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:44:12 PM   #102
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It's really late, so I'm probably missing something really obvious. But why would you use Dark Void Smeargle when you could use Spore :/
Dark Void affects both of your opponents in a 2v2 game.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:44:38 PM   #103
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It's really late, so I'm probably missing something really obvious. But why would you use Dark Void Smeargle when you could use Spore :/
It's 2v2. Dark Void affects both opponents
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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:47:35 PM   #104
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Haha, thanks guys. Somehow the answer came to me right after I posed the question >_>
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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:49:00 PM   #105
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I haven't exactly tested it, but how would Sketch function in RBY, where it hasn't been programmed in at all? Wouldn't it glitch?
You'd use Sketch in GSC, and trade the Electrode back to RBY once it has obtained Spore.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 9:55:56 PM   #106
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You'd use Sketch in GSC, and trade the Electrode back to RBY once it has obtained Spore.
But Mimic only copies the effect of a move, it doesn't replace it (like Sketch does). The Electrode would still have Mimic after the battle.
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No, because Sketch's effects are 'more' permanent than Mimic's. Remember how Sketch would go through Transform and the pokemon would keep the sketched move? It's the same kind of thing.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:05:41 PM   #108
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Is anyone else having problems creating a "My Pokémon" account or whatever the fuck its called? I'd hate for the reason keeping me out of this tournament is least of all server issues. -_-
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:09:10 PM   #109
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But Mimic only copies the effect of a move, it doesn't replace it (like Sketch does). The Electrode would still have Mimic after the battle.
You Mimic Sketch, then Sketch Spore.

Sadly, this does not work in 3rd or 4th gens.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:31:44 PM   #110
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OMG Finally I get to get my revenge from 10 ANIV back than I was a noob and now I know competive battling inside and out and yeah dang you Obi will most likely be in it.

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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:49:44 PM   #111
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Sketching Metronome causes Smeargle to learn Metronome. I just tested it. The upshot is that Smeargle can't have Seed Flare or Judgment in this tournament.

I'm surprised, Obi! I didn't expect this kind of assumption from you. ;P
It wasn't an assumption. We had this discussion in 'early' (early for me) Shoddybattle when I was saying that Smeargle should be unable to learn Judgment because it's impossible to fight an Arceus to Sketch it. Then we got into a discussion of whether it's possible to Metronome Judgment (it is). Someone then claimed that you could Sketch Judgment that way. This is the source of my error.

Anyway, I'm going to edit the OP and stick this.

Gray areas / points of clarification:

Use of the Transform glitch is almost certainly banned (only possible in early Japanese DP, short version is that any Pokemon that can Transform by any means can learn any Sketchable move)

When they say your team must consist of 4 Pokemon, do they mean that like JAA was (bring 6, see their team, select 4) or you have to just put 4 Pokemon in your team?

Smeargle apparently cannot use Seed Flare or Judgment. Dark Void is legal.

All event moves are allowed.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:20:52 PM   #112
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When they say your team must consist of 4 Pokemon, do they mean that like JAA was (bring 6, see their team, select 4) or you have to just put 4 Pokemon in your team?
I'm nearly certain that you can only have four Pokémon total in your team. It sounds like they'll be using D/P rather than PBR for some reason. It's very odd, since PBR would give them the ability to implement Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, and level scaling. Anyhow, D/P doesn't really make for easy 'bring 6, choose 4' play, so I'm assuming you only bring 4. I'm also assuming you won't be seeing your opponent's team before choosing your leads.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:23:17 PM   #113
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I better start breeding ASAP screw my social life right now.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:35:19 PM   #114
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Funny, I was talking with Expert Evan about how they probably wouldn't have one of these till Platinum, and here it is >.>
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:45:31 PM   #115
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i got the regisstration to work and got a 20/20 on the quiz
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:49:12 PM   #116
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Obi- So what you're saying is that in a regular ole D/P game, you can Metronome Judgment and/or Seed Flare and/or Dark Void?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:26:13 AM   #117
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Prizes are very enticing (especially the custom DS units!) but I'm still unlikely to attend since LA is 6 hours away and I don't really feel driving 12 hours roundtrip to lose in a Pokemon tourney. =/

What is up with the "special DS lite systems" used at the tourney though?

EDIT: Also lol at everyone bitching about the level 50 rule. Guess I wasn't crazy requesting mostly UT versions of stuff I trade for. Note that there are some important level-up moves that won't be "legal" too. Tri-Attack Pory2/PoryZ, for example.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:30:35 AM   #118
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Obi- So what you're saying is that in a regular ole D/P game, you can Metronome Judgment and/or Seed Flare and/or Dark Void?
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Yes. Apparently you cannot Sketch Metronomed moves (it Sketches Metronome instead), however.

I would put off trying to register for the next couple days. The site is really slow right now, and I don't want to risk being put into some sort of semi-registered limbo due to the site lagging on me. According to their stuff, it's not first-come, first-served, so that's not an issue.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:37:45 AM   #119
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I was wondering if i use AR to get Tm, Items would they check that or the pokemon im using. Also my friend put the Arceus,Shaymin, And Darkrai items in my game so does that mess me up??
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:40:57 AM   #120
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Hmm weird I can register now and it won't let me submit it says continue, but continue what registeration should work now.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:41:07 AM   #121
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If you have the non-released event items, that is proof that you have had an AR used on your system. If you have Arceus in your Pokedex, that's proof that you have viewed an illegal Pokemon. I wouldn't trust having either.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:43:43 AM   #122
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Ah its working.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:44:02 AM   #123
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Thank you for the advice
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:49:46 AM   #124
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i dont think the site wants us to sign up
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Old May 16th, 2008, 1:01:19 AM   #125
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i dont think the site wants us to sign up
Yeah I am feeling the same way it keeps saying error has occured after I submit my registeration and I am like "WTF Nintendo WTF!"
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